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3 problems ever with Vista...

1 - The OS was laggy and slow - turned out to be the hard drive. Installed as a slave on another pc the drive wont do two things at the same time without stopping the one thing.

2 - Blue screen. Caused by me trying to work out what programs i could quit in Task Manager and still have a working system.... i found one i couldnt ;)

3 - Halo2 - end of a game froze entire PC causing me to have to re-boot with the machines power button... go halo 2....! :S

  • 06.08.2007 2:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: Dark Xarin
im srry to say vista just down right sucks right now no offence to microsoft but its not stable at all it slows to a crowl in just a couple of days major compatability issues with programs simple as flash games on internet explorer, and right now its just down right buggy i am duel booting my comp xp and vista but i hardly ever go into vista anymore, btw its not cause my comp sucks vista itself rates my comp a 4.5 outa 5 i have 1 gig of ram 512ddr2-4 (dont remember wich)(2 GPU's) video card 320 gb of hardrive space with a 64 bit processor (AMD Athlon(tm) 64 processor 3700+) vista is to much looks and no functionality..

my friends have had the same problems and they baught there computer new with vista already installed.....


How about you do the world a favor, sell that computer, and retake your english classes.

Vista runs fine for me and I got a 4.0. If it's sluggish, you might have spyware.


1....Got news for ya ITS A FORUM no one here gives a -blam!- about grammer as long as you can read it
2.... im not gona get enough spyware on a computer in 2 days to slow it down to a compleat crawl specally when i dont download hardly anything in that amount of time and i have 2 spyware programs i can run
3... every computer is different just because it runs peachy on yours doesnt mean it will run pirfectly on everyones comp
4.... xp runs pirfect with no problems for extended amount of time
5.... if companys are gona sell computers with vista on it the comp should be able to handle it therefor he should have no problems
6....Im not gona sell my computer because some ignorant basterd on the forum sais so
get your facts streat b4 you post on forums might save your dignity


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Posted by: Dark Xarin
Got news for ya ITS A FORUM no one here gives a -blam!- about grammer as long as you can read it


It is a forum. Which means you have the time to think and type carefully while posting. It's ok to slide on a few things, but you should type clearly and neatly while your here.

  • 06.08.2007 5:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Like wise Dark Xarin, no one is going to give a complete blam about you if thats how you are going to act.

  • 06.08.2007 6:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dark Xarin
Posted by: vincent5
Posted by: Dark Xarin
im srry to say vista just down right sucks right now no offence to microsoft but its not stable at all it slows to a crowl in just a couple of days major compatability issues with programs simple as flash games on internet explorer, and right now its just down right buggy i am duel booting my comp xp and vista but i hardly ever go into vista anymore, btw its not cause my comp sucks vista itself rates my comp a 4.5 outa 5 i have 1 gig of ram 512ddr2-4 (dont remember wich)(2 GPU's) video card 320 gb of hardrive space with a 64 bit processor (AMD Athlon(tm) 64 processor 3700+) vista is to much looks and no functionality..

my friends have had the same problems and they baught there computer new with vista already installed.....


How about you do the world a favor, sell that computer, and retake your english classes.

Vista runs fine for me and I got a 4.0. If it's sluggish, you might have spyware.


1....Got news for ya ITS A FORUM no one here gives a -blam!- about grammer as long as you can read it
2.... im not gona get enough spyware on a computer in 2 days to slow it down to a compleat crawl specally when i dont download hardly anything in that amount of time and i have 2 spyware programs i can run
3... every computer is different just because it runs peachy on yours doesnt mean it will run pirfectly on everyones comp
4.... xp runs pirfect with no problems for extended amount of time
5.... if companys are gona sell computers with vista on it the comp should be able to handle it therefor he should have no problems
6....Im not gona sell my computer because some ignorant basterd on the forum sais so
get your facts streat b4 you post on forums might save your dignity

All of your points are wrong, and I find that interesting that you are telling someone with way more respect then you have to shutup. BTW, you don't run spyware on your computer you run anti-spyware, "ignorant bastard".

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you say all my points are wrong yet you say nothing about them to prove it, it doesnt do anything just to tell someone there wrong then walk off also things can have multi names and ways to discribe them spyware program is the same thing as anti spyware.....

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  • 06.08.2007 7:31 PM PDT

Slaying noobs since 2007.

I shall put together a list for you.

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  • 06.08.2007 7:45 PM PDT

Slaying noobs since 2007.

Spyware is one thing,
"anti - preposition - opposed to; against,"- The Oxford Dictionary
that is the textbook definition, not my words the dictionary's.
Your first point, wrong, because on forums you have plenty of time to use proper english and punctuation. A slip-up every once in a while is ok. Not because it makes you feel better. Your second point, wrong, because hackers are people. And programs are written by people. If people made the programs and computer, then why can't they make something that your spyware wouldn't be capable of catching yet? Your third point, in some regards can be true, but if the support and compontents of the computer are at or above what the current one you posses then it is logical to assume it can be handled. Your fourth point, wrong, you could download or put something on your computer that could slow it down considerably, for instance your beloved protection software is one of those kinds of things. Your fifth point, you can be sold a car from a dealership, does that mean it's a BMW? Your sixth point, it was a suggestion, a loose one at that, and he could be right.

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ahh nice but the chances of the same thing hapining to my computer and about 20 others that i know of, of all makes and kinds is very unlikely. as for the hackers that is why u use firewalls to keep out the hackers. every program i am runing on vista i am runing on xp with absolutly no problems at all, also im not the only one having problems go google it vista isnt liked by many people at all right now, busneses are even still using xp, last when im typing someting on a forum i dont care im srry if it bothers some of you but i think of a post as a quick comment not a paper

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

I just looked at the rough specs you posted and given the possible range of hardware it could be, for example your definition of your ram is way vague and even the low end of 512 and the high end of 1 gig should run vista OK, but you wont be able to multi-task very well. If your claim about 2 GPUs is correct then you must have at least SLi or Crossfire meaning you at least have a geforce 6+ series or radeon x8xx series card all of which should have no problem running vista. For your CPU it's a good CPU, a little dated, but again should run vista just fine. Knowing all this it is safe to say that your problems exist between the keyboard and your chair.

  • 06.08.2007 8:24 PM PDT

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LOL, Static.

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also i have found some one elses annalisis of vista he has some very good points http://reliancepc.com/reliancepc/menu/tips/xpnotvista/

btw my ram is 1gig ddr2
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-deta ils.asp?EdpNo=2231768&Sku=E145-7874 that is my video card
.... and if it was a problem with me i would be having these same or at least some major issues with xp also, everyone else i know hates vista including sofware engeners....

[Edited on 06.08.2007 9:03 PM PDT]

  • 06.08.2007 8:28 PM PDT

Dark Xarin, something is definitely wrong on your end, because my computer has the exact same video card, and 1.5 gigs of ram and it has an 80 GB hard drive, and Vista runs beautifully. XP worked great too.

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Posted by: Dark Xarin
also i have found some one elses annalisis of vista he has some very good points http://reliancepc.com/reliancepc/menu/tips/xpnotvista/

btw my ram is 1gig ddr2
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-deta ils.asp?EdpNo=2231768&Sku=E145-7874 that is my video card
.... and if it was a problem with me i would be having these same or at least some major issues with xp also, everyone else i know hates vista including sofware engeners....


Not here to bust your chops or anything, just share my 2 cents, as it were.

While I can't argue with a majority of the points made in the linked article, Vista is a lot better off at release than XP was. In my most honest of opinions, the argument that Vista is a bigger resource hog than XP is invalid because every iteration of Windows has taken more resources than the last. 95 was a resource hog compared to 3.1; 98 was a hog compared to 95; ME was a hog compared to 98; 2K was a hog compared to ME and NT4; and XP was a hog compared to 2K.

The problems with Vista are three fold. I'll list them in what I feel is the order of importance:
1. Technology sales have been steadily on the decline. People who bought a new computer within the last 3 or 4 years probably aren't inclined to upgrade, because they are still content with their systems today. It's hard to justify upgrading to a whole new machine just because a new OS is out. In that respect, I think Microsoft overestimated the "desire" of consumers to upgrade. In the same category, tech savvy purchasers (except us crazy 'early adopter' types) tend to stay away from new Microsoft OS's until the first service pack - this also tends to hold true for corporate consumers (other than companies which sell computers, of course).

2. Glaring hardware and software compatibility problems. Admittedly this also plagued XP, but not to the same degree. Because Vista changed the core of how it operates, a lot of so-called "legacy" hardware and software won't run. This is also the predominant reason software engineers loathe Vista. Imagine that, for the last 13 years (NT4-XP), you've had to program for a common system kernel. Now Microsoft completely changes the way the kernel interacts with hardware, requiring a whole new learning curve.

3. Longhorn (now Vista) was, originally, supposed to bring a whole new host of features. For example, from the beginning, Microsoft had announced things like a new file system successor to NTFS called WinFS. However, all of the most anticipated additions other than Aero were pretty much scrapped because Longhorn was taking too long to develop. This drove sales away from tech folks who were looking forward to the new "revolutionary" features.

Anyhoo, that's just my 2 cents. Let me see what I can find out about your issue by looking at your links. Hopefully I'll be posting again soon.

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Posted by: Captiosus
Posted by: Dark Xarin
also i have found some one elses annalisis of vista he has some very good points http://reliancepc.com/reliancepc/menu/tips/xpnotvista/

btw my ram is 1gig ddr2
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-deta ils.asp?EdpNo=2231768&Sku=E145-7874 that is my video card
.... and if it was a problem with me i would be having these same or at least some major issues with xp also, everyone else i know hates vista including sofware engeners....


Not here to bust your chops or anything, just share my 2 cents, as it were.

While I can't argue with a majority of the points made in the linked article, Vista is a lot better off at release than XP was. In my most honest of opinions, the argument that Vista is a bigger resource hog than XP is invalid because every iteration of Windows has taken more resources than the last. 95 was a resource hog compared to 3.1; 98 was a hog compared to 95; ME was a hog compared to 98; 2K was a hog compared to ME and NT4; and XP was a hog compared to 2K.

The problems with Vista are three fold. I'll list them in what I feel is the order of importance:
1. Technology sales have been steadily on the decline. People who bought a new computer within the last 3 or 4 years probably aren't inclined to upgrade, because they are still content with their systems today. It's hard to justify upgrading to a whole new machine just because a new OS is out. In that respect, I think Microsoft overestimated the "desire" of consumers to upgrade. In the same category, tech savvy purchasers (except us crazy 'early adopter' types) tend to stay away from new Microsoft OS's until the first service pack - this also tends to hold true for corporate consumers (other than companies which sell computers, of course).

2. Glaring hardware and software compatibility problems. Admittedly this also plagued XP, but not to the same degree. Because Vista changed the core of how it operates, a lot of so-called "legacy" hardware and software won't run. This is also the predominant reason software engineers loathe Vista. Imagine that, for the last 13 years (NT4-XP), you've had to program for a common system kernel. Now Microsoft completely changes the way the kernel interacts with hardware, requiring a whole new learning curve.

3. Longhorn (now Vista) was, originally, supposed to bring a whole new host of features. For example, from the beginning, Microsoft had announced things like a new file system successor to NTFS called WinFS. However, all of the most anticipated additions other than Aero were pretty much scrapped because Longhorn was taking too long to develop. This drove sales away from tech folks who were looking forward to the new "revolutionary" features.

Anyhoo, that's just my 2 cents. Let me see what I can find out about your issue by looking at your links. Hopefully I'll be posting again soon.


thank you your message was interesting and polite, rather then telling some one to "throw away there computer" etc or puting the person directly at fault.... I beleave vista's bigist problem is its compadability issues thats why on here ppl are saying ooo my comp works fine while others on this sight or others sais it doesnt, like you said this operating system wasn't based off of anouther it was built from scrach hence the 6 years and the scraped feachers. If you look at that first link i put about the other persons view of vista that best discribes my problems sluggish etc i have all the currant drivers for all hardware but if you can find any problems please say
thx

  • 06.08.2007 10:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dark Xarin
Got news for ya ITS A FORUM no one here gives a -blam!- about grammer as long as you can read it


It is a forum. Which means you have the time to think and type carefully while posting. It's ok to slide on a few things, but you should type clearly and neatly while your here.


for what as long as u can read and understand what people are trying to say and if u cant then dont try to read it then and move on

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Posted by: Dark Xarin
Posted by: Captiosus
Posted by: Dark Xarin
also i have found some one elses annalisis of vista he has some very good points http://reliancepc.com/reliancepc/menu/tips/xpnotvista/

btw my ram is 1gig ddr2
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-deta ils.asp?EdpNo=2231768&Sku=E145-7874 that is my video card
.... and if it was a problem with me i would be having these same or at least some major issues with xp also, everyone else i know hates vista including sofware engeners....


Not here to bust your chops or anything, just share my 2 cents, as it were.

While I can't argue with a majority of the points made in the linked article, Vista is a lot better off at release than XP was. In my most honest of opinions, the argument that Vista is a bigger resource hog than XP is invalid because every iteration of Windows has taken more resources than the last. 95 was a resource hog compared to 3.1; 98 was a hog compared to 95; ME was a hog compared to 98; 2K was a hog compared to ME and NT4; and XP was a hog compared to 2K.

The problems with Vista are three fold. I'll list them in what I feel is the order of importance:
1. Technology sales have been steadily on the decline. People who bought a new computer within the last 3 or 4 years probably aren't inclined to upgrade, because they are still content with their systems today. It's hard to justify upgrading to a whole new machine just because a new OS is out. In that respect, I think Microsoft overestimated the "desire" of consumers to upgrade. In the same category, tech savvy purchasers (except us crazy 'early adopter' types) tend to stay away from new Microsoft OS's until the first service pack - this also tends to hold true for corporate consumers (other than companies which sell computers, of course).

2. Glaring hardware and software compatibility problems. Admittedly this also plagued XP, but not to the same degree. Because Vista changed the core of how it operates, a lot of so-called "legacy" hardware and software won't run. This is also the predominant reason software engineers loathe Vista. Imagine that, for the last 13 years (NT4-XP), you've had to program for a common system kernel. Now Microsoft completely changes the way the kernel interacts with hardware, requiring a whole new learning curve.

3. Longhorn (now Vista) was, originally, supposed to bring a whole new host of features. For example, from the beginning, Microsoft had announced things like a new file system successor to NTFS called WinFS. However, all of the most anticipated additions other than Aero were pretty much scrapped because Longhorn was taking too long to develop. This drove sales away from tech folks who were looking forward to the new "revolutionary" features.

Anyhoo, that's just my 2 cents. Let me see what I can find out about your issue by looking at your links. Hopefully I'll be posting again soon.


thank you your message was interesting and polite, rather then telling some one to "throw away there computer" etc or puting the person directly at fault.... I beleave vista's bigist problem is its compadability issues thats why on here ppl are saying ooo my comp works fine while others on this sight or others sais it doesnt, like you said this operating system wasn't based off of anouther it was built from scrach hence the 6 years and the scraped feachers. If you look at that first link i put about the other persons view of vista that best discribes my problems sluggish etc i have all the currant drivers for all hardware but if you can find any problems please say
thx


Dark your posts are terribal. They are riddled with terribal spelling mistakes, grammer mistakes, and it is one long run on sentence. This is why no one here takes you serious. You type like a 10 year old, plus you sound like one. If you are going to try and make a point, try and sound intelligent.

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

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Dark your posts are terribal. They are riddled(passive voice is bad with terribal spelling mistakes, grammer mistakes, and it is one long run on sentence. This is why no one here takes you serious. You type like a 10 year old, plus you sound like one. If you are going to try and(should have used 'to') make a point, try and(should have used 'to') sound intelligent.


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Posted by: Dark Xarin
1....Got news for ya ITS A FORUM no one here gives a -blam!- about grammer as long as you can read it
Epic fail.

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ROFL - that was great.

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Posted by: DangerKeepOut
Dark your posts are terribal. They are riddled(passive voice is bad with terribal spelling mistakes, grammer mistakes, and it is one long run on sentence. This is why no one here takes you serious. You type like a 10 year old, plus you sound like one. If you are going to try and(should have used 'to') make a point, try and(should have used 'to') sound intelligent.


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Static FTW!!!!!

  • 06.09.2007 12:50 PM PDT

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Wrong. I got Vista when it came out, and haven't gotten a bug yet. 99% of the people who make these claims of it being buggy are just seeing the effects of using it on an inferior computer.

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I have a new powerful computer. No problems with Vista. The only problem is when I minimize Oblivion, it freezes. So don't minimize it, just exit the game.

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