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lol read my thread c what im about to do to my h2v copy...

  • 06.09.2007 9:05 PM PDT
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Dark your posts are terribal. They are riddled(passive voice is bad with terribal spelling mistakes, grammer mistakes, and it is one long run on sentence. This is why no one here takes you serious. You type like a 10 year old, plus you sound like one. If you are going to try and(should have used 'to') make a point, try and(should have used 'to') sound intelligent.


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Thanx for the tips dawg

  • 06.09.2007 11:14 PM PDT
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I seen this topic and I just have to put my 2 cents in. I had to buy windows XP real close to the release of vista. I had no choice I had an Hp computer with one of those stupid built in partitions. I was told by Hp a virus can never get int he built in partition. Yeah right that is exactly what happened to me a virus got in the partition and wrecked it. I knew Vista was coming out soon but I had no choice my PC had no OS. I intended on buying Vista but to buy it now is like flushing money down the toilet. I waited 3 years for Halo 2 to be out for the PC. Then it finally comes out and it only supports a Os I did not get do to circumstances beyond my control. The game is over 3 years old there is no reason that i can see for it not supporting XP. I run allot of high end games that have graphics far better than anything seen in Halo 2. In fact I even play games that are not out yet for sale. I have a fileplanet subscription so get invited to allot of beta tests. Even those beta test games work on XP fine. Well as fine as a beta version of a game can run after all it is a test version the point of it is to find bugs and fix them. Not only can i not play Halo 2 I am afraid that every game Microsoft releases will be for Vista only and that they are going to convince other game makers to do the same thing. This is unfair ever since halo 2 came out for X box I wanted it for PC. Now it is out and can't play it do to it being out for vista.

This is just a plain kick in the junk. Someone from Bungie may as well come to my home and kick me square in the junk. I remember when was in EB games and picked up a copy of Halo 2 and say Vista written beside it. All I could think was you got to be ******* kidding me. In fact I did not just think it I said it in the store. I go to the counter with it and my exact words were "This is just a Vista version you do have some XP copies right?". They said no it's Vista compatible only. The guy at the counter I was talking too said i was not the first person to ask that.

Now i regret that I ever bought Halo CE. Because that means I bought a product from a game publisher who would does that kind of thing. I don't care if i get flamed or what anyone says. There is no excuse for this there is no reason why it can't run on XP. This is just an example of a company just out to make money and who cares about the customers. Bottom line they made Halo 2 for Vista only to make money. No one can say anything to make me see it any different. I would not do that kind of thing to other people. I think it is just plain wrong and Microsoft made a big mistake doing that. Allot of people who have Xp are going to end up not purchasing the game because they can not run it. So really they are not making money restricting who can buy and play the game. They are simply making there customer base smaller.

i would actually like a Bungie employee to explain to me what they were thinking making Halo 2 for Vista only. I actually have a friend who has vista and halo 2. I am thinking of borrowing it and trying to install it and see if it would work. Like I said before if anyone wants to flame me for my opinion i say bring it on I can take it. It would be interesting to see what kind of argument other posters bring up about this. It is not like it will make me look differently about it but it would be interesting.

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i would actually like a Bungie employee to explain to me what they were thinking making Halo 2 for Vista only.

Pretty sure it was out of Bungie's hands.

*points at the Microsoft Game Studios logo on the H2V and Shadowrun cases*

Edit: Just remember, as soon as games start using DX10, if you want to play ANY PC games, you'll need Vista.

[Edited on 06.10.2007 9:02 AM PDT]

  • 06.10.2007 8:53 AM PDT
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Posted by: Captiosus
Edit: Just remember, as soon as games start using DX10, if you want to play ANY PC games, you'll need Vista.
Thank you.

  • 06.10.2007 9:20 AM PDT
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". I don't care if i get flamed or what anyone says. There is no excuse for this there is no reason why it can't run on XP. "

No reason why it couldn't work on a 8-bit NES either. Except it wasn't written for it because things move on. It's nothing your average gamer hasn't said once in their life...

"PS2 only..? But i only have a PS1.!!!"
"Damn, I need a 128Mb graphics card???"
"But i don't have 1Gb RAM!"

I still remember HAVING to go out and buy a 3D card (voodoo2 if i recall) just so i could play Star Wars 3D Rogue Squadron back nearly a decade ago. They COULD of written it for software graphics they just didn't. We COULD all still be using 386s ... but we aren't. It's all moved on.

  • 06.10.2007 9:43 AM PDT
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Posted by: CylonLeader
I still remember HAVING to go out and buy a 3D card (voodoo2 if i recall) just so i could play Star Wars 3D Rogue Squadron back nearly a decade ago.


Heh, those were the days!
Remember how the old original 3D cards were ONLY 3D cards and you have to have your standard 2D card as well? Then you had to run the monitor cable to the 2D card and have a pass-thru VGA connector go from the 2D card to the 3D card.

Good times.

  • 06.10.2007 9:47 AM PDT
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But I cannot afford to buy Vista. I suffered a real loss from buying a HP computer. All that is HP in my computer now is a secondary hard drive and a motherboard. Allot of it was replaced because the parts were defective and HP would not honor there warranty. I sent them the computer 8 times for them to fix it. Each time it would come back in the same condition it was in. That was a major loss i had to spend another thousand bucks to fix a PC that already costs me $2500. It really sucks to pay over 2 grand for a PC to have to burn another grand into it to fix it. Not too long after that I found the original video card was not cutting it anymore. So I had to buy a new one there goes another 400. The the partition gets messed up another 300 bucks to buy XP again. By the way that was 2 months before vista came out. Then my c drive died there goes another 500 bucks. It costs that much do to the fact the original was 600 GB. Then I upgraded my CPU to a 3.5 GHZ processor and spent another 300 just so i could play games and upgraded my memory to 3 GB another 300 bucks. I did that to play high end games. Now microsoft pulls this BS.

I do not have allot of money i can't afford another 300 bucks for Vista. Even though I know my Pc culd take anything Vista throws at it.

Also I need to comment on someone elses post

No reason why it couldn't work on a 8-bit NES either. Except it wasn't written for it because things move on. It's nothing your average gamer hasn't said once in their life...

That is the dumbest thing I heard. You are forgetting halo 2 is a 3 year old game it is an x box 1 game. So was halo CE and that works on XP. So explain to me why they make a x box game work for XP and yet the sequel which is also x box works only on Vista. Also someone mentioned you need DX10 to play games. If you do some research you will see Halo 2 does not support direct x 10 features it will simply work for it. In actual fact Halo 2 uses direct x 9. Therefore there is no reason for it to be a vista only game. I can see Halo 2 not working for 98 but common games should at least work on XP for another year. If i buy Vista now I just flushed 300 bucks down the toilet. Remember I had to waste a grand to fix my PC when it should not have needed repair. I bought XP twice Microsoft has no right to expect me now to pay for Vista. They already made there money off of me. so why should I now be expected to buy it. I am on disability and it is a miracle i can even have a gaming PC at all. When I say I don't have the money for vista I mean it. Furthermore do to my health condition I can not go out and have a lie like i would want to. The only thing that makes my life even bearable is playing games. Then some company who only cares about making there money pulls this BS. But do you think they care if I have problems that means I can't make allot of money. No they just care about making more money even though they have billions. All i get is 25 thousand a year. I have to live with a roommate just to pay the rent. I can't live on my own I just do not have the cash. If I did not live with a roommate I would have no money to have a PC or anything else for entertainment. But Microsoft does not care they just increasing there billions of dollars of profit into even more billions. They seem to forget that no matter how big they are if customers do not buy there products they no longer have a company.

  • 06.10.2007 12:23 PM PDT

Slaying noobs since 2007.

I guess next time ask us what kind of computer to get before you buy one, especially an HP.

  • 06.10.2007 12:30 PM PDT
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@avmf8: First of all, so I don't sound like a complete uncaring bastard, I'm sorry to hear about your computer troubles. Sadly, that is precisely why it is cheaper to learn how to build them and then build them yourself rather than buy them from a company like HP (who, additionally, tend to use the cheapest parts they can buy and then inflate them 300% or more before selling them to customers). Likewise, I'm sorry to hear about your health issues and I know how it feels to live paycheck to paycheck.

That said, don't come in here and try to "school" us.

I'm the one who said WHEN DX10 games come out you'll need Vista. I did not say Halo 2 Vista was DX10.

Your complaint is not new and is shared by a lot of the folks in the Maw. A bunch of us are particularly unimpressed that Microsoft is leveraging Vista sales on the back of H2V and Shadowrun. However, that was Microsoft's decision to make just as it was Microsoft's decision to link DX10 to Vista only. Yeah it sucks having to keep up with the Joneses (or, in our case, Moore's Law), but what can we do? Technology moves forward, companies make decisions, and we have to decide whether we're going to move forward with them and take their products or not.

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In response to the "they won't have a company anymore", I'll say two things. Microsoft's largest profit base isn't their OS division, it's their Office division. Microsoft can live with mediocre sales of Vista because they turn more profit on sales of Microsoft Office than they do on Windows. Additionally, with their OEM licensing, Vista is making money for Microsoft on every new Dell, HP/Compaq, Toshiba, Gateway, and Lenovo PC sold. It's nearly impossible to order a "new" manufactured PC with XP still installed on it. This is where they get the bulk of their profits of OS sales from - OEM manufacturers, not retail.

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  • 06.10.2007 12:48 PM PDT
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If you're complaining that computer gaming costs too much, then I suggest you buy a console (I recommend n Xbox 360). Computer gaming is costly and expensive, and as such, games, as well as hardware and software counterpart components, are going to cost money as technology advances and becomes more readily available. In order to reap the benefits of PC gaming, and enjoy it's advantages over consoles (i.e. improved graphics quality, game performance, ability to create modifications, generally better multiplayer [less now than before] and always being on the cusp of gaming technology etc.) you are going to have to lay down a pretty penny in upgrades to your rig at least every 5 years. If that seems like too much, then maybe PC gaming isn't for you... and that's fine. Just enjoy the simplicity and lower costs that comes with playing on a console. Both console gaming and PC gaming has advantages and disadvantages, but you have to see which one matches your wants/needs best and go with it. In this case, if PC gaming currently costs too much for you, then stick to console gaming. If not, then don't complain when you have to fork over large sums of money to play 3 year old games.

Cheers.

  • 06.10.2007 12:54 PM PDT
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Look I just upgraded my PC. Also i Had to waste money on fixing My PC when I should have not had to. Also I have a a right to complain about them making a 3 year old game need vista. I run games much newer that that on XP. Halo 2 came out in 2004 so did Unreal Tournament 2004 but UT 2004 runs on Xp very well I might add. So i have full right to complain about a game 3 years old being a vista exclusive. I really liked halo CE. In fact play on some UT 2004 servers you will see some maps I made. I made the map blood gulch in the UT2004 map editor. I got it pretty close to the original. I even spent time making the ring in the sky look right. I also tried to make the map silent cartographer for UT2004 but it never worked out right. I would not do that if I did not like Halo CE. I waited for 3 years to get Halo 2 for PC that is 1095 days that comes to about 26280 hours in seconds that comes to about 1576800 seconds. I waited a long time for halo 2 and then they pull this crap. Just do to some one having some dumb idea on how to make some extra cash for a company that already has billions in revenue.

They simply made DX 10 come out for Vista only to make people have to buy Vista when XP works fine. I have a DX10 compatible video card that works with XP. I far exceed what you need in specs for Vista and i never said it was a bad OS. I just cannot afford it especially when I was forced to buy XP 2 months before Vista came out. I don't get it if vista was coming out in 2 months why did it costs me 300 bucks to get XP? Before anyone says anything I know I overpaid for it. That was at staples where I bought it easy button my ***. So I had to buy XP twice and on top of that the second time I ended up having to overpay for it. So does anyone on this forum honestly think that i should have to buy Vista now?

There is no excuse right now to have any vista only games right now. That is just an example of a large companies greed. No matter how much money a company makes they need more and more to feed there selfish need to make money. there is nothing wrong with making money but there is a right and a wrong way to do it. Making a sequel to a popular PC release game only compatible with Vista is the wrong and downright low way to make money. In fact I think it is downright disgusting. All of you watch every game Microsoft makes for now on will be vista only. I can just see it. I think what they did with Halo 2 is just them trying to see if they can get away with pulling that BS. Now that they see they can get away with it they are going to pull that BS with every game they make.

By the way I know how to build computers I rebuilt and fixed my PC myself.Oh and when someone said I should of asked abut what I was buying I did. In the store i specifically said I did not want a PC that had a built in partition I want it to come with an actual copy of windows. They told me the computer I bought did well they lied. It had a built in partition and they would not allow me to return the computer for a full refund. Sure they would take it back but i would of only got half my money back. That was at a radio shack store by the way. Don't buy from radio shack they suck.

Never again will I ever buy a whole PC. I also now research about products myself I don't trust what a sales rep in a store has to say anymore. this goes for everything I buy now.

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Posted by: Bungie Jumping
If you're complaining that computer gaming costs too much, then I suggest you buy a console (I recommend n Xbox 360). Computer gaming is costly and expensive, and as such, games, as well as hardware and software counterpart components, are going to cost money as technology advances and becomes more readily available. In order to reap the benefits of PC gaming, and enjoy it's advantages over consoles (i.e. improved graphics quality, game performance, ability to create modifications, generally better multiplayer [less now than before] and always being on the cusp of gaming technology etc.) you are going to have to lay down a pretty penny in upgrades to your rig at least every 5 years. If that seems like too much, then maybe PC gaming isn't for you... and that's fine. Just enjoy the simplicity and lower costs that comes with playing on a console. Both console gaming and PC gaming has advantages and disadvantages, but you have to see which one matches your wants/needs best and go with it. In this case, if PC gaming currently costs too much for you, then stick to console gaming. If not, then don't complain when you have to fork over large sums of money to play 3 year old games.

Cheers.
As true as that may be, PC gaming doesn't have to be as expensive as people say it is. If they play their cards right, make their own PC, buy parts separately, it won't cost as much as people would expect it to be.

  • 06.10.2007 4:36 PM PDT

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Yeah, but most of the time it is going to be more expensive than console gaming, unless you have some pretty good hookups.

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I looked it up live in Canada so a copy of vista would cots me 500 bucks. I can buy the newest X box model out now for 400 bucks. The complaints you get from vista are people upgrading from XP. You end up with a gimped version of XP that looks like Vista if you do that. I would never do an upgrade like that it is not a good idea. To get the whole thing costs 500 bucks. So for me that would make Halo 2 a 550 dollar game. I can't afford that. How does Microsoft get off charging 500 bucks for Vista?\

I actually sent an email to a Bungie employee asking about this whole just making Halo2 for Vista thing. just to see if they have the balls to answer me.

[Edited on 06.10.2007 5:06 PM PDT]

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"I actually sent an email to a Bungie employee asking about this whole just making Halo2 for Vista thing. just to see if they have the balls to answer me."

Actually, it was Microsoft's idea to make H2V a Vista exclusive. It was a marketing strategy to get people to buy Vista. Also, Bungie didn't make the H2V, Hired Gun did.

  • 06.10.2007 5:23 PM PDT

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Are you retarded? Bungie had nothing to do with H2V.

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Posted by: Desert Fox RWTF
Are you retarded? Bungie had nothing to do with H2V.
...Yes and no.

  • 06.10.2007 5:31 PM PDT

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Are you saying yes to my question, or my statement? lol

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Posted by: avmf8
I looked it up live in Canada so a copy of vista would cots me 500 bucks. I can buy the newest X box model out now for 400 bucks. The complaints you get from vista are people upgrading from XP. You end up with a gimped version of XP that looks like Vista if you do that. I would never do an upgrade like that it is not a good idea. To get the whole thing costs 500 bucks. So for me that would make Halo 2 a 550 dollar game. I can't afford that. How does Microsoft get off charging 500 bucks for Vista?\

I actually sent an email to a Bungie employee asking about this whole just making Halo2 for Vista thing. just to see if they have the balls to answer me.


All I know is that people must love you as a customer as you pay entirely too much for just about everything you buy. 500 dollars for vista is laughable. You can get vista home premium for 150 Canadian. Next the upgrade feature has and always has sucked. Even in XP it sucked, but you dont end up with a prettier version of XP, you end up with vista and just vista. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

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Where do you get vista for 150 bucks? Is 150 bucks for the upgrade? I do not want the upgrade you even just said it sucks. Even if in the end you get Vista it is still more of a pain getting the upgrade then getting the whole thing.

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Ok i did a search but all i see for 150 is Vista basic. Normally with stuff basic means not so good.

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Posted by: avmf8
Where do you get vista for 150 bucks? Is 150 bucks for the upgrade? I do not want the upgrade you even just said it sucks. Even if in the end you get Vista it is still more of a pain getting the upgrade then getting the whole thing.
It's not the upgrade version.

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Posted by: Iggwilv

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Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

http://www.ncix.com/

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They have a newegg in Canada? Eww I just looked they ship UPS yuck. I hate that if they ship across boarder i will get majorly gouged. I have bought stuff from the states had it shipped UPS and sometimes been charged more than the item costs just to get it over tho us boarder.

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