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Subject: Thoughts about the Controllers
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Controller Aim-Assist for Halo 2 Vista needs to be REMOVED. Anyone with a keyboard/mouse cannot compete with a person of equal skill using a controller with its swipe-sniping abilities and lunge assist for melee attacks.

Another thing: I mean comeon, answer me this: Why would you want to use a controller with Halo 2 Vista when you can just break out your -blam!- xbox?

What are your thoughts on this?

  • 06.06.2007 5:20 PM PDT
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By DivX: Anyone with a keyboard/mouse cannot compete with a person of equal skill using a controller with its swipe-sniping abilities and lunge assist for melee attacks.

Um, you can swipe snipe and melee lunge with a mouse and keyboard. The thing that makes the swipe sniping work is the hitboxes, not the reticle magnetism.


By DivX: Another thing: I mean comeon, answer me this: Why would you want to use a controller with Halo 2 Vista when you can just break out your -blam!- xbox?

Oh, gee, I don't know. The PC version only has better graphics, support for dedicated servers, custom content, and two exclusive maps. Also, someone just might not have an Xbox.

  • 06.06.2007 5:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: got milk12
The thing that makes the swipe sniping work is the hitboxes, not the reticle magnetism.
Auto-aim is a catch all term for hit boxes and aim assist, dude, let's not argue over semantics.

  • 06.06.2007 5:30 PM PDT
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Right, but for the purpose of that post, I needed to separate the two, just to tell him why swipe snipng really works. He made an implied argument that people using mice (Is that the proper plural form for a computer mouse?) can't swipe snipe. I was arguing that they can, since the hitboxes are the same for mice and crontrollers, and the hitboxes are what makes swipe sniping work.

[Edited on 06.06.2007 5:52 PM PDT]

  • 06.06.2007 5:51 PM PDT
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Wait, so sweep-sniping is still possible with the mouse and keyboard? That's insanely imbalanced.

By the way, the blue-chief snipers strike again.

  • 06.06.2007 5:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: got milk12
Right, but for the purpose of that post, I needed to separate the two, just to tell him why swipe snipng really works. He made an implied argument that people using mice (Is that the proper plural form for a computer mouse?) can't swipe snipe. I was arguing that they can, since the hitboxes are the same for mice and crontrollers, and the hitboxes are what makes swipe sniping work.


Dude, swipe sniping DOESNT work with a keyboard and mouse. Ive tried it.

  • 06.06.2007 5:57 PM PDT
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Well, you may be right. I was logically assuiming it would work, since the hitboxes are what really makes swipe sniping work (it's the reason it works on Xbox, even unscoped, in which case, there is no reticle magnetism). I only had one day to play H2V before I moved my computer into a new case and my power supply decided not to work. I'm using my mom's computer right now. Blech! Slow!

  • 06.06.2007 6:04 PM PDT

Let there be CHAOS!

Posted by: DivX
Posted by: got milk12
Right, but for the purpose of that post, I needed to separate the two, just to tell him why swipe snipng really works. He made an implied argument that people using mice (Is that the proper plural form for a computer mouse?) can't swipe snipe. I was arguing that they can, since the hitboxes are the same for mice and crontrollers, and the hitboxes are what makes swipe sniping work.


Dude, swipe sniping DOESNT work with a keyboard and mouse. Ive tried it.


Oh yes it does...

I've complained a little about how it's lame that you have to lead your sniper shots when firing across the map, but the simple solution is to sweep snipe, and it does work. Sweep snipe is my buddy.

  • 06.06.2007 6:35 PM PDT

Slaying noobs since 2007.

Posted by: DivX
Dude, swipe sniping DOESNT work with a keyboard and mouse. Ive tried it.

You're a sucky sniper then.

  • 06.06.2007 6:40 PM PDT
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Actually, I think that you should have to lead to hit a target moving at a far distance. Not Halo PC type lead where you shot the grass in front of someone to hit them even at point blank range, but just normal regular bullet lag. It makes it feel more realistic in my opinion....and its why I'm not that great with the sniper in Halo 2 Xbox especially when sniping at far distances because my instincts tell me to lead my shot.

  • 06.06.2007 6:42 PM PDT
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What the hell is swipe sniping?

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  • 06.06.2007 8:21 PM PDT

Slaying noobs since 2007.

Snipe sweeping is an instant kill and to do it you have to pull the reticle across the target and pullthe trigger at the same time.

  • 06.06.2007 8:32 PM PDT

What it is.

Yeah, i just got done playing with KB/M, then i was in a server where this one guy was hitting me and i wasn't even touching him(this was with the kb/m), so then i thought maybe it's cuz he was using the controller, i then switch the the controller. And wow! there is such a difference, it actually is cheap...I swear, they might as well just ported the xbox game straight to the comp and left out the KB/M cuz it's very unbalanced...At first i thought it was decent, like KB/M = controller, but after noticing the difference, it's terrible. Also, the servers they have now are bad too, like full of swat, invis no shields, crap like that. I sure hope they tone down the auto-aim in an update...from now on I'm just going to use the controller because if i don't some other controller person with kill me...

  • 06.06.2007 8:32 PM PDT
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Most of the PC issues posted here are the result of PEBKAC.

I've been using the controller and it's a handicap for me.

Keyboard and Mouse = point and click

That's way too easy.

  • 06.06.2007 9:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: blank98
What the hell is swipe sniping?
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  • 06.07.2007 11:50 AM PDT
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Keyboard and Mouse = point and click

That's way too easy.

you forgot reaction time, dexterity, and precision.
also, whats the difference between pointing and clicing with a controller (L and R buttons make click sounds and you "point" with onscreen reticule)
eitherway, its all about preference.

  • 06.07.2007 12:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: vincent5
I've been using the controller and it's a handicap for me.

Keyboard and Mouse = point and click

That's way too easy.
Just because a keyboard and mouse has more room for improvement and can perform better than the controller does not mean it takes less skill to use than the controller. Especially when it comes to what game you're playing.

  • 06.07.2007 12:57 PM PDT
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The controllers are an OPTION.
Halo is a GAME.
Games are for FUN.

If you think controllers are unfair, you can always buy one. If you have money for a gaming system, Vista OS, and Halo 2 Vista, you have money for a controller. :P

  • 06.07.2007 7:09 PM PDT
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F-f-f-f-fling yourself.

Posted by: DivX
Another thing: I mean comeon, answer me this: Why would you want to use a controller with Halo 2 Vista when you can just break out your -blam!- xbox?


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  • 06.07.2007 7:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: XworstpirateevaX
The controllers are an OPTION.
Halo is a GAME.
Games are for FUN.

If you think controllers are unfair, you can always buy one. If you have money for a gaming system, Vista OS, and Halo 2 Vista, you have money for a controller. :P
But we don't want to use controllers, that's the freaking problem. :P

  • 06.08.2007 12:20 PM PDT