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Hope I don't offend anyone with this question...

But does anyone really think they should bring HALO 2 out on Windows Vista yet?

I mean Vista still has more bugs in it than an entomologists laboratory, admittedly it has just come out and let's face it nothing is ever perfect. But what are they thinking? It seems Microsoft has bitten more than it can masticate on this one. don't get me wrong, not having an XBOX personally, due to the cost involved only, I can't wait for it to come out on PC.

[Edited on 06.09.2007 11:15 AM PDT]

  • 06.09.2007 11:14 AM PDT

Ok, 3 things:

(1) You're trying way too hard to sound smart. It's just coming across as being pretentious. Type like you were sitting in a room talking to someone.

(2) I've had Vista Ultimate since it came out in January. I have yet to see a single bug. Your reasoning fails.

(3) You do know that the game is already out, right?

[Edited on 06.09.2007 11:30 AM PDT]

  • 06.09.2007 11:19 AM PDT
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I've been using Vista since beta RC2 and have yet to find any bugs :\

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I think their bigger gamble is Shadowrun, not H2V.

However, my opinion on this borders on legendary.
I'm very nonplussed about Microsoft's use of H2V and Shadowrun to try to leverage sales of their OS.

I'd be just as nonplussed if they had tried leveraging Flight Simulator 2000 on Windows Millennium only.

Ultimately though, it's Microsoft's decision and as long as they are content knowing that a mere fraction of the folks who might have bought the game will due to the OS constraint, more power to them. If they honestly believe releasing H2V and Shadowrun for Vista only will make people immediately go "OMG I NEED TO GET VISTA!!!111".. well, they're pretty foolish.

@JesseZ and LegendaryC: I'm with you guys. I've seen one, very minor, bug. But, let's be honest. We're really in the minority. For every one of us who are running Vista with no problems, there's tons of horror stories on the web of people having monumental problems. However, in most of the cases, it's not Microsoft's fault, but rather a PEBKAC issue or an issue of having cheap hardware. That doesn't really matter though because people read the problems and immediately put the blame on MS (due, in large part, to MS's past) and then steer clear of the OS instead of giving it a chance.

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  • 06.09.2007 11:21 AM PDT

True. It's very likely that 99.9999994% of the people who claim Vista is glitchy are running it on crap computers that have no business running it.

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Posted by: JesseZinVT
True. It's very likely that 99.9999994% of the people who claim Vista is glitchy are running it on crap computers that have no business running it.
Exactly. If you're a serious gamer, I don't think you'd want to run games and Windows Vista on a piece-of-crap machine.

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  • 06.09.2007 12:18 PM PDT

Slaying noobs since 2007.

Yep, but if you are a serious gamer you have, Windows 95 The platform for all the next big games, anyone remember that one?

  • 06.09.2007 12:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: Desert Fox RWTF
Yep, but if you are a serious gamer you have, Windows 95 The platform for all the next big games, anyone remember that one?
Windows 95 didn't have DX10. Or a Games Explorer. Or a Games for Windows marketing campaign behind it.

  • 06.09.2007 12:35 PM PDT

Slaying noobs since 2007.

It had Doom though........ lol

  • 06.09.2007 12:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: Desert Fox RWTF
It had Doom though........ lol
Yup. And StarCraft.

  • 06.09.2007 12:40 PM PDT

Slaying noobs since 2007.

And you can't forget the main reason it was loved, you didn't need the DOS knowledge to use the game you just bought. I remember the pains of DOS, I hated those constant commands. :(

  • 06.09.2007 12:43 PM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Constant commands? All you had to do was install your packet driver, resident mouse driver, configure your sound blaster (or compatible) and set up high memory allocation... piece of cake!

  • 06.09.2007 1:26 PM PDT
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Frog Blast the Vent Core!

Bungie did have Marathon 2 on 95, also. They dominated the PC game market even back then! :P

(not that Marathon dominated anything. That was Doom.)

  • 06.09.2007 1:52 PM PDT

Slaying noobs since 2007.

And your program access, your route directories, .exe location, how to run the .exe, good grief what would we be without that?

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I would n't say she was trying to be smart. I don't think vista is ready for a games release, or even mass release.

Okay for my point of view.
I have vista ultimate which after installation I ery quickly turned to a dual boot with XP.
I have halo2 which agianst all my better knowledge I got because I thought I would at least try out Vista. (or Pista as my company calls it)
I am an IT professional, so use vista everyday. It is riddled with bugs. Mostly related to connection and talking to software, I find most of the people O work with hate it for bugs, count yourself very lucky if you actually like it.
I have a Intel core duo 2, 4 GB ram, Sli dual Gforce 7950 graphics cards on SATA drives. it is not a piece of crap machinery. And yet vista is pants.

All that being said.
Halo 2 is utter -blam!-. Played it for 3 hours, crashed three times that were recoverable, crashed an extra four times that also brought down vista. It should never have been released for vista, Vista should never have been released.

I am regretting going into vista to run it. :(

I will admit I liked the play while it installs action. That was nice to see.

  • 06.09.2007 3:57 PM PDT

Posted by: twigleaf1976
I would n't say she was trying to be smart. I don't think vista is ready for a games release, or even mass release.

Okay for my point of view.
I have vista ultimate which after installation I ery quickly turned to a dual boot with XP.
I have halo2 which agianst all my better knowledge I got because I thought I would at least try out Vista. (or Pista as my company calls it)
I am an IT professional, so use vista everyday. It is riddled with bugs. Mostly related to connection and talking to software, I find most of the people O work with hate it for bugs, count yourself very lucky if you actually like it.
I have a Intel core duo 2, 4 GB ram, Sli dual Gforce 7950 graphics cards on SATA drives. it is not a piece of crap machinery. And yet vista is pants.

All that being said.
Halo 2 is utter -blam!-. Played it for 3 hours, crashed three times that were recoverable, crashed an extra four times that also brought down vista. It should never have been released for vista, Vista should never have been released.

I am regretting going into vista to run it. :(

I will admit I liked the play while it installs action. That was nice to see.


Wow. My computer is waaaayyyyy lower than yours, and I've never had any of those problems with either Vista or Halo 2. I must be lucky or something.

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Posted by: Desert Fox RWTF
Yep, but if you are a serious gamer you have, Windows 95 The platform for all the next big games, anyone remember that one?
This? :D

  • 06.09.2007 4:15 PM PDT

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Yep, that one.

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Posted by: Anton P Nym
who says you have to be an ace to have fun?

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Stupid parents let their stupid children play games that are rated M when they should be playing Big Birds Spelling Adventures

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Also the AR is actually good in CQB now and no longer a glorified baseball bat.

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Posted by: Desert Fox RWTF
Yep, but if you are a serious gamer you have, Windows 95 The platform for all the next big games, anyone remember that one?
Windows 95 didn't have DX10. Or a Games Explorer. Or a Games for Windows marketing campaign behind it.


But it had Hover!

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Posted by: twigleaf1976
I am an IT professional, so use vista everyday. It is riddled with bugs. Mostly related to connection and talking to software, I find most of the people O work with hate it for bugs, count yourself very lucky if you actually like it.


I support Vista machines at work, too. We have a test setup of 50 machines running Vista Business Volume License. Only had one major malfunction to fix in the 3 months we've been running the setup.

All due respect to your company, if they jumped straight to Vista when it came out and put it straight into a live work environment, well, that was a pretty foolish decision. Stability and compatibility is paramount for business use and new OS's usually suffer problems in both at original release. Most every company I know, mine included, refuse to move up from XP Pro until either a) there's a first major service pack for Vista or b) we absolutely need to upgrade to new hardware or c) both. Not waiting for the first service pack is a quick way to stress out the entire IT staff and make them rethink their career path.

I have a Intel core duo 2, 4 GB ram, Sli dual Gforce 7950 graphics cards on SATA drives. it is not a piece of crap machinery. And yet vista is pants.

nVidia just released beta drivers for SLI. This is Vista's fault, how?
Also, as I'm sure you're aware, if you're running 32-bit Vista, it will only support 3.2 (or 3.4gb) of RAM. The 64-bit version would support all of your RAM, but wouldn't have drivers for crap.

That said, there's absolutely no reason for your system to be running Vista poorly. There has to be something you overlooked - whether something as simple as new mobo chipset drivers or maybe some at-login program hogging your resources due to compatibility issues. My machine isn't too far off from yours and Vista runs like a champion with a 5.3 Windows Experience Index.

  • 06.09.2007 5:17 PM PDT
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TBH windows 95 was the best OS

then XP then vista then 98

  • 06.09.2007 5:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: LOL WALMART
TBH windows 95 was the best OS

then XP then vista then 98


I'm kind of biased but I think Windows 2000 Pro was the best Microsoft OS.

Sure 95 was great cuz it gave us a much better GUI, but Win2K was a solid OS that could be used at home or for business, supported a lot of legacy hardware and supported DirectX. It also helped pave the way for the (finally) "unified" NT-based OS for both home and business, XP. But since Microsoft kept shoving the idea that a "Professional" OS was for business, and then gave us the POS know as Millennium for home users, 2K never got the respect it deserved.

  • 06.09.2007 5:29 PM PDT
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Hmm interesting...

Thank you all who posted in this thread, despite the insults from the first replier, I have enjoyed reading your replies so thank you.

  • 06.10.2007 1:21 AM PDT

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