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Wow. Every other post about any sort of button glitches is "I can't wait for Halo 3 so I can finally kill those newbs using button glitches! They would suck without button glitches! I hope they get perma-banned someday!".

My response to that is:

I guarantee you that 70% of the people who kill you with button glitches(Except BXB) could destroy those "Anti-button glitchers" without any glitches whatsoever and/or in Halo 3.

I have two friends that think like that. They think that BXR (they haven't even heard of double shot) is cheap and only for people who "Want to win". They are both horrible and none too bright. That is what I think of most of the Anti-button glitchers population.

RRX takes so much more skill than most things in Halo 2 it's ridiculous. You can't just do it whenever (Unless you're Toxic Euphoria), you have to know when and where and how to execute right. BXR takes less skill and knowledge, but you still can't charge any decent enemy from mid-distance. BXB is pretty brainless.

Flame away.

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  • 06.12.2007 1:29 AM PDT
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I agree with you. And I think the answer is because the people who say stuff like this simply don't understand one simple truth:

Button Glitches DON'T make you good.

Once people understand this, they'll stop with ignorant remarks. To say a pro wouldn't be pro if he didn't button glitch would be absurd. The reason he's pro is because of his skill, tactics, and team work.

It's completely evident with even Toxic Euphoria. The best double shotter/inventor of excessive shot still can't make pro bracket. And he's the best out there at these glitches (he's still a beast though.)

I mean, BxR/BxB give you the edge in an up close fight, but what good will it do you when you have 3 people team BR'ing you from their setup?

  • 06.12.2007 1:41 AM PDT

RAWRRR

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
I agree with you. And I think the answer is because the people who say stuff like this simply don't understand one simple truth:

Button Glitches DON'T make you good.

Once people understand this, they'll stop with ignorant remarks. To say a pro wouldn't be pro if he didn't button glitch would be absurd. The reason he's pro is because of his skill, tactics, and team work.

It's completely evident with even Toxic Euphoria. The best double shotter/inventor of excessive shot still can't make pro bracket. And he's the best out there at these glitches (he's still a beast though.)

I mean, BxR/BxB give you the edge in an up close fight, but what good will it do you when you have 3 people team BR'ing you from their setup?


I agree 100%.

And once you get to the point where everyone is doubleshotting/BXRing(which is about level 30 in hardcore btw), then it takes even more skill, because you have to do it better than your opponent. At that level, if you go into a melee battle with a half clip, you will probably lose, because the other person will probably BXR you. This adds more strategy to the game.

I honestly wouldn't mind if Bungie added them in as part of the game. It would get rid of all those stupid "It's a glitch you should be banned" and "It's not a part of the game" arguments. I find just regular meleeing to be boring and brainless, and whoever hits first, not who's faster/better aimer.

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  • 06.12.2007 2:00 AM PDT

Posted by: S2K ViP3R
there is not point in saying hey i got a 40- HIGH RANK MEANS NOTHING, it means you either bridged host or cheated...and the skillfull player like myself have 27s cause of cheating.

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God....I missed BXB so much in the Beta.

Oh yeah, back to topic. Yeah, the better player will win without button glitches. They don't make the player, they are just a little helpful in the right situations.

  • 06.12.2007 4:51 AM PDT
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Could someone explain why the plasma rifle + battle rifle is a "button glitch". This is a real question and not a smart @$$ statement. I quit playing Halo 2 before this all came into play.

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  • 06.12.2007 5:05 AM PDT

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Kevin's post = breath of fresh air.
Take it from this guy people, he knows what he's talking about.

Second accounts are NOT cheating:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=13824

Posted by: Synge
Could someone explain why the plasma rifle + battle rifle is a "button glitch". This is a real question and not a smart @$$ statement. I quit playing Halo 2 before this all came into play.


Plasma rifle + Battle Rifle WTF? anyway, I agree also. Button glitches dont make the player, they make the player even better. Anyone who is familar with button glitches knows that you dont just use them carelessly. In order to be good at MLG youll need them, but only in desperate situations. For example, I use BxR or BxB if someone is close to me and I need to get them off of me or if they have a power weapon. I only RRx if im down a shot in a BR batle or if I need to get someone right before they round a corner as they run away.

Face it boys and girls, MLG makes you better. It improves your reaction time and make you actually think during a game. Everyone is constantly on the same playing field weapon wise so you have to play with alot more skill. Even when I do play SMG start games I usually dominate because im so used to the frantic pace of MLG that its nothing to play like that. I get so sick of everyone riding the "anti-MLG" wagon. If youre bad, just admit it. Its ok, I promice that we all know youre bad already.

Disagree with me? Ask all of the top ranked players in EVERY playlist what their most common custom game is or their favorite gametype is. Im willing to bet you its going to be 99% MLG. This will go without exception. Its simply because of what I stated above about the benefits of playing MLG. You WILL get better.

  • 06.12.2007 7:14 AM PDT
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If someone tells me to quit glitching Ill just say they need to get better

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well i like superbouncing because everyone basically knows most of the important bounces. the bounces do not make the player of course, and they add a depth of strategy to the game. i am sick of people telling me that superbouncing is cheating because they know the bounce anyway, so whats he griping about?

  • 06.12.2007 7:47 AM PDT
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My friend exploits all of those button glitches, he can do RRX YY RRX and so on until the BR is out of ammo (almost like and automatic BR). My other friend can do BxR and all you know that happens is your dead. These glitches piss me off, but I have caught myself doing it now too.

The plain and simple is, super bouncing, and the button glitches are legal, cheap maybe, but legal. If it is a glitch that everyone can do, even if they don't know how, its not cheating, nor a bannable offense.

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Posted by: Strike Force
well i like superbouncing because everyone basically knows most of the important bounces. the bounces do not make the player of course, and they add a depth of strategy to the game. i am sick of people telling me that superbouncing is cheating because they know the bounce anyway, so whats he griping about?


Well... I found this super bounce outside the base on Relic, and during a CTF game, you can just bounce right up to the flag area, grab it, and run w/o having to fight anyone guarding the corridor like area to the flag... and yes I do it, and I realize its extremely cheap.

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I don't assume it's the only way people win. It's just a cheap way of doing it. I know that people who can do this are still good or great at this game. If they are as good as you say why can't they just play the way it is intended? I know how to double shot. But I never use it, not even in customs. My cousin showed me how to use it and I'll admit, it's pretty damn cool. It's just not fair. So when it comes to matchmaking I just play the game like normal. If I lose, I lose. If I win, I win. It's just lame when you play fair and the other team is superjumping,doubleshotting, whatever, to win. Instead of playing a fair game.

  • 06.12.2007 8:25 AM PDT

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Kevin's post = breath of fresh air.
Take it from this guy people, he knows what he's talking about.

Second accounts are NOT cheating:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=13824

I think bouncing is cheap as hell. Theres a difference in using weapon glitches and using map glitches. Weapon glitches take skill while map glitches just give some horrible player with a sniper a few easy kills. Its no different than "host dropping" that ball through the map or anything like that.

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Posted by: Strike Force
well i like superbouncing because everyone basically knows most of the important bounces. the bounces do not make the player of course, and they add a depth of strategy to the game. i am sick of people telling me that superbouncing is cheating because they know the bounce anyway, so whats he griping about?


No superbouncing is cheap. It doesn't take any skill, like some glitches do, and it CAN make you better, and change the outcome of the match. You can be terrible, and superbounce with Snipe to the top of Lockout, or any other map, and dominate.

Superbouncing is cheating, if you do it to win, you're pathetic.

  • 06.12.2007 8:56 AM PDT

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Kevin's post = breath of fresh air.
Take it from this guy people, he knows what he's talking about.

Second accounts are NOT cheating:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=13824

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Posted by: Strike Force
well i like superbouncing because everyone basically knows most of the important bounces. the bounces do not make the player of course, and they add a depth of strategy to the game. i am sick of people telling me that superbouncing is cheating because they know the bounce anyway, so whats he griping about?


No superbouncing is cheap. It doesn't take any skill, like some glitches do, and it CAN make you better, and change the outcome of the match. You can be terrible, and superbounce with Snipe to the top of Lockout, or any other map, and dominate.

Superbouncing is cheating, if you do it to win, you're pathetic.


^^^^^^What he said.....

  • 06.12.2007 9:01 AM PDT
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Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: Strike Force
well i like superbouncing because everyone basically knows most of the important bounces. the bounces do not make the player of course, and they add a depth of strategy to the game. i am sick of people telling me that superbouncing is cheating because they know the bounce anyway, so whats he griping about?


No superbouncing is cheap. It doesn't take any skill, like some glitches do, and it CAN make you better, and change the outcome of the match. You can be terrible, and superbounce with Snipe to the top of Lockout, or any other map, and dominate.

Superbouncing is cheating, if you do it to win, you're pathetic.


^^^^^^What he said.....


I love how every time I've seen a "Superbouncing is fair" statement from somebody, I look at their stats and they're horrid. It further proves my point every time.

  • 06.12.2007 9:16 AM PDT

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Kevin's post = breath of fresh air.
Take it from this guy people, he knows what he's talking about.

Second accounts are NOT cheating:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=13824

If you want to be good at this game you need do do a few things:

quit playing nub gametypes
practice
dont play with bad players
learn from guys that are better than you

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Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
I agree with you. And I think the answer is because the people who say stuff like this simply don't understand one simple truth:

Button Glitches DON'T make you good.

Once people understand this, they'll stop with ignorant remarks. To say a pro wouldn't be pro if he didn't button glitch would be absurd. The reason he's pro is because of his skill, tactics, and team work.

It's completely evident with even Toxic Euphoria. The best double shotter/inventor of excessive shot still can't make pro bracket. And he's the best out there at these glitches (he's still a beast though.)

I mean, BxR/BxB give you the edge in an up close fight, but what good will it do you when you have 3 people team BR'ing you from their setup?

True dat. Strategy pwns skill. However, BxB, BxR, and RRx are glitches. These glitches are used and exploited to the point that the game is not played the way the designers intended. It is cheating. These 'button combo' glitches give those who use them an unfair advantage against those who chose not to cheat.

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Finnally somebody with sense if someone double shots you that means that they can just as easy four shot you and i use doubleshot sometimes and bxr and i still owned in the beta without any combos so people stop with the owning kids that use double shot.

  • 06.12.2007 10:03 AM PDT

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Kevin's post = breath of fresh air.
Take it from this guy people, he knows what he's talking about.

Second accounts are NOT cheating:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=13824

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Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
I agree with you. And I think the answer is because the people who say stuff like this simply don't understand one simple truth:

Button Glitches DON'T make you good.

Once people understand this, they'll stop with ignorant remarks. To say a pro wouldn't be pro if he didn't button glitch would be absurd. The reason he's pro is because of his skill, tactics, and team work.

It's completely evident with even Toxic Euphoria. The best double shotter/inventor of excessive shot still can't make pro bracket. And he's the best out there at these glitches (he's still a beast though.)

I mean, BxR/BxB give you the edge in an up close fight, but what good will it do you when you have 3 people team BR'ing you from their setup?

True dat. Strategy pwns skill. However, BxB, BxR, and RRx are glitches. These glitches are used and exploited to the point that the game is not played the way the designers intended. It is cheating. These 'button combo' glitches give those who use them an unfair advantage against those who chose not to cheat.


Boo-Freaking-Hoo. Frankly I dont give a rats ass if its cheating. I play this game to get better for my own personal skill. If bad kids cant hack it then they shouldnt play. Im tired of hearing them whine about it.

  • 06.12.2007 10:06 AM PDT
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Ok. So, I've grown tired of all of this cheating talk. Here's the deal. If it is available in the game without modding your XBOX, the guess what. Bungie is not going to ban anyone. They don't care if you've exploited their mistakes. They only want people to keep their Boxes clean. Stop complaining, and start aiming, teaming up, and recovering your shields better.

  • 06.12.2007 10:14 AM PDT

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Kevin's post = breath of fresh air.
Take it from this guy people, he knows what he's talking about.

Second accounts are NOT cheating:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=13824

Exactly. Either get better, quit whining about getting pwned or quit playing....bottom line.

  • 06.12.2007 10:33 AM PDT

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I could care less about button glitches, I play for fun, and the challenge. If someone is glitching in a game I'm in I will go for him every time just to see if I can kill him, and I see superbouncers as an easy kill. Its just a game after all, If I worried about stats and things like that, I wouldn't let my kids play on my account. But, I do get really cranky when someone standby's in an unranked game, thats just retarded.

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Posted by: hellodeadman
Wow. Every other post about any sort of button glitches is "I can't wait for Halo 3 so I can finally kill those newbs using button glitches! They would suck without button glitches! I hope they get perma-banned someday!".

My response to that is:

I guarantee you that 70% of the people who kill you with button glitches(Except BXB) could destroy those "Anti-button glitchers" without any glitches whatsoever and/or in Halo 3.

I have two friends that think like that. They think that BXR (they haven't even heard of double shot) is cheap and only for people who "Want to win". They are both horrible and none too bright. That is what I think of most of the Anti-button glitchers population.

RRX takes so much more skill than most things in Halo 2 it's ridiculous. You can't just do it whenever (Unless you're Toxic Euphoria), you have to know when and where and how to execute right. BXR takes less skill and knowledge, but you still can't charge any decent enemy from mid-distance. BXB is pretty brainless.

Flame away.
Looks like your stereotyping yourself. First, you assume there are so many threads about what you told us about, there are not. Second, you think that anybody who DOESNT use the combos are the worst players you can find. Wow, that's an all time low.

I don't use button glitches, but I always own my friends in Snipers and casual BR games. In Team Hardcore, I had Warlock, Team Slayer. Two of our teamates quit because they don't have guts for the sucky map. I didn't have host, they were BXB, RRX and BXR'ing us(or trying to) the whole game and we still one.

Skill > Combos

Those button glitches destroy anti button glitchers because they are using those glitches, obviously, if what you said was true, which it isn't. Players who do not use them are under harsher conditions, less of a choice if you will. And they adapt better overtime then button combo'rs use, It's common sense. Like how I got good at Snipers because I used to be an Elite a lot, I knew when they would shoot and how they would aim and where I should not go.

If you were worth it, I would challenge you to a team Slayer game with Battle Rifles. But if you are going to act like a total ass face then you might as well go kill yourself for pissing off many people on this forum.



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quick story;

i remember this one dude i played a 1v1 game with was freaking awesome with BxR. Literally everytime i touched him i died. it was crazy. I thought he was just really good, seeing as how i was getting pwnd.

Eventually, i figured out to run at him like i was going to beat down, then back up, popping headshots at him the whole time. I crushed him. He wasnt any good at anything except BxR. Kinda funny.

Anyway, i have much more of a problem with someone who noob-combos then any button glitcher

  • 06.12.2007 11:35 AM PDT

RAWRRR

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Posted by: hellodeadman
Wow. Every other post about any sort of button glitches is "I can't wait for Halo 3 so I can finally kill those newbs using button glitches! They would suck without button glitches! I hope they get perma-banned someday!".

My response to that is:

I guarantee you that 70% of the people who kill you with button glitches(Except BXB) could destroy those "Anti-button glitchers" without any glitches whatsoever and/or in Halo 3.

I have two friends that think like that. They think that BXR (they haven't even heard of double shot) is cheap and only for people who "Want to win". They are both horrible and none too bright. That is what I think of most of the Anti-button glitchers population.

RRX takes so much more skill than most things in Halo 2 it's ridiculous. You can't just do it whenever (Unless you're Toxic Euphoria), you have to know when and where and how to execute right. BXR takes less skill and knowledge, but you still can't charge any decent enemy from mid-distance. BXB is pretty brainless.

Flame away.
Looks like your stereotyping yourself. First, you assume there are so many threads about what you told us about, there are not. There are many POSTS saying this in threads that somehow became a button glitch war. Second, you think that anybody who DOESNT use the combos are the worst players you can find. Wow, that's an all time low. 90% of the time they are horrible. There are some exceptions.

I don't use button glitches, but I always own my friends in Snipers and casual BR games. In Team Hardcore, I had Warlock, Team Slayer. Two of our teamates quit because they don't have guts for the sucky map. I didn't have host, they were BXB, RRX and BXR'ing us(or trying to) the whole game and we still one. Exactly what level hardcore was this? I know that if you were 2 v 4 at 30(My level before that ranks reset) there was no way you could win, unless they cheated to get up to that level.

Skill > Combos There you go. Acting like it's either skill OR combos. Like I said, 70% of the people who use button glitches could destroy most Anti-button glitchers. Combos add to a players skill, they don't completely replace it.

Those button glitches destroy anti button glitchers because they are using those glitches, obviously, if what you said was true, which it isn't. Players who do not use them are under harsher conditions, less of a choice if you will. And they adapt better overtime then button combo'rs use, It's common sense. Like how I got good at Snipers because I used to be an Elite a lot, I knew when they would shoot and how they would aim and where I should not go.

If you were worth it, I would challenge you to a team Slayer game with Battle Rifles. But if you are going to act like a total ass face then you might as well go kill yourself for pissing off many people on this forum. I'd take you up on that






quick story;

i remember this one dude i played a 1v1 game with was freaking awesome with BxR. Literally everytime i touched him i died. it was crazy. I thought he was just really good, seeing as how i was getting pwnd.

Eventually, i figured out to run at him like i was going to beat down, then back up, popping headshots at him the whole time. I crushed him. He wasnt any good at anything except BxR. Kinda funny.

Anyway, i have much more of a problem with someone who noob-combos then any button glitcher


That is one of the 30% of button glitchers that suck without them.

And I also think that weapons such as rockets, sword, shotgun and combo are way more cheap than glitches.


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