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Posted by: TIGHCLOPS
"LOL, you are sad. You take this way to seriously if you attach morals to it. if you like accidentally hit BxR, would you cry yourself to sleep?""

He's sad? Why? Because he recognizes that cheating in a game against other people is unfair and therefore wrong? Just because your parents completely failed to raise their child to have any sense of sportsmanship or respect for others, doesn't mean that everyone else was so disadvantaged. The world does not revolve around you.

If you arbitrarily ignore your sense of right and wrong whenever it suits you, then you are a worthless human being.







I'm a worthless human being, because I dont feel bad........about button glitching. Its a video game. What is wrong eith the two of you. You take this GAME way too seriously to attach morals to it. GO OUTSIDE.

  • 06.13.2007 7:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: Frosan
My friend exploits all of those button glitches, he can do RRX YY RRX and so on until the BR is out of ammo (almost like and automatic BR). My other friend can do BxR and all you know that happens is your dead. These glitches piss me off, but I have caught myself doing it now too.

The plain and simple is, super bouncing, and the button glitches are legal, cheap maybe, but legal. If it is a glitch that everyone can do, even if they don't know how, its not cheating, nor a bannable offense.


I don't know any super bounces except for the nub one on blood gulch and I've have always been against them since i'm a tournament style player.
Its bad sportsmanship to jump on top of the map and shoot at people from where they can't shoot you out throw a grenade. It doesn't add strategy, it just simplifies the game. If you don't have to worry about anything but being sniped when your head pops out or if someone else knows the bounce. Like on relic, it takes away from the game because the map wasn't designed for it.


Button combos actually add depth because they add a variety in close range combat, and if the other person chokes with sword or shotty, you have a slight chance. And you have to out bxb people most of the time, which makes it just a more hardcore version of bb because it involves more timing.

So can everyone please stop talking like BxR is fool proof and works everytime, mine works every now and then and maybe more consistent on LAN at an event where i'm trying out of my mind. Double shots are SICK if done right so all you kids out there need to please stop being jealous.

Button combos add depth, superbounces dont.

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  • 06.13.2007 7:40 AM PDT

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Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: TIGHCLOPS
"LOL, you are sad. You take this way to seriously if you attach morals to it. if you like accidentally hit BxR, would you cry yourself to sleep?""

He's sad? Why? Because he recognizes that cheating in a game against other people is unfair and therefore wrong? Just because your parents completely failed to raise their child to have any sense of sportsmanship or respect for others, doesn't mean that everyone else was so disadvantaged. The world does not revolve around you.

If you arbitrarily ignore your sense of right and wrong whenever it suits you, then you are a worthless human being.







I'm a worthless human being, because I dont feel bad........about button glitching. Its a video game. What is wrong eith the two of you. You take this GAME way too seriously to attach morals to it. GO OUTSIDE.


TIGHCLOPS is awesome.

Pandemic, you're on here 24/7, don't tell people to go outside lol. ;)

  • 06.13.2007 7:42 AM PDT
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Posted by: Zach The One
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: TIGHCLOPS
"LOL, you are sad. You take this way to seriously if you attach morals to it. if you like accidentally hit BxR, would you cry yourself to sleep?""

He's sad? Why? Because he recognizes that cheating in a game against other people is unfair and therefore wrong? Just because your parents completely failed to raise their child to have any sense of sportsmanship or respect for others, doesn't mean that everyone else was so disadvantaged. The world does not revolve around you.

If you arbitrarily ignore your sense of right and wrong whenever it suits you, then you are a worthless human being.







I'm a worthless human being, because I dont feel bad........about button glitching. Its a video game. What is wrong eith the two of you. You take this GAME way too seriously to attach morals to it. GO OUTSIDE.


TIGHCLOPS is awesome.

Pandemic, you're on here 24/7, don't tell people to go outside lol. ;)


..............not really.

I was on here a lot yesterday......that's about it.

I'm only on here in my free time, when there's really nothign to do, and at 1045 in the morning, there isn't much to do.



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  • 06.13.2007 7:45 AM PDT
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People who use button glitches are just exploiting the game. If Bungie thought that those glitches were cool and right to use, they would have out them in Halo 3...but they didn't. Lets just say that numerous people are waiting on Halo 3 to do away with the losers who use that crap...because they will soon be getting owned.

  • 06.13.2007 7:54 AM PDT
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"..............not really.

I was on here a lot yesterday......that's about it.

I'm only on here in my free time, when there's really nothign to do, and at 1045 in the morning, there isn't much to do."


What the hell do you mean there is nothing to do in the middle of the day, get a job you lazy POS. The only time I get on here is on my lunch break, and I just see the same people online posting things constantly instead of playing halo so they can get better and stop abusing the game.

  • 06.13.2007 1:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: GezaB
BXb and BXR are AGAISNT THE RULES. They are exploiting glitches and so they're agaisnt the rules.

Oh, and BXR and BXB does NOT make you good at all. Playing the game like it was intended, using skill and tactics and teamwork is. In halo 3, if you miss it, too bad, it takes no skill to get kills AT ALL.


OMG really, they don't make you good? Wasn't that the point of this thread. That most people who glitch could still be good without glitches.......


You know, I keep hearing this in this thread. So why not own me without them then, Huh?

  • 06.13.2007 2:09 PM PDT
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question, if you are good without glitches, then what is the point of them?

question, are you bxb, bxr and rrx supporters going to cry when you cant do them in halo 3? (*cough* yes)

  • 06.13.2007 2:31 PM PDT
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To answer the question posed in the title of the thread:

Because people who glitch, DON'T win without them. I'm not saying they can't, but they'll glitch over and over again. They're just not proving anything by doing so, except that they can glitch. In order to prove that you can without them is to do so. But you guys will not stop using them, so there's really no definitive conclusion.

And you guys with the 30% this and 71.29% that. Where in the world are do you make those stats up from?

  • 06.13.2007 2:34 PM PDT
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CE>REACH>2 3 <----- LOL

Ok first i want to say i use BxR ( in correct situations aka not running up to people from far away to do it just using it around corners/when im low shield i know a guys chasing me around corner reload and bxr) I BxB everytime i beatdown. I doubleshot in certain situations. I do this in Matchmaking and customs. The only button combo users who are really bad are the ones who will chase you half way across lockout or midship just to attempt to bxr and then do it before they reach you only to get 4'd in the face... Those who are good at bxring/doubleshooting (again not doing it all the time only in the correct situation) are generally better than those who don't use these combos and usually have better br's/strafes than those who don't excluding the doubleshot still a better br..

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Posted by: Shadovv Dragon
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: GezaB
BXb and BXR are AGAISNT THE RULES. They are exploiting glitches and so they're agaisnt the rules.

Oh, and BXR and BXB does NOT make you good at all. Playing the game like it was intended, using skill and tactics and teamwork is. In halo 3, if you miss it, too bad, it takes no skill to get kills AT ALL.


OMG really, they don't make you good? Wasn't that the point of this thread. That most people who glitch could still be good without glitches.......


You know, I keep hearing this in this thread. So why not own me without them then, Huh?


I have no desire to make me look cooler on the internet by beating you at a video game. I know for a fact that my ability would not change much without me using glitches. I actually rarely glitch in MM. I never have a need to, and still do as well.

  • 06.13.2007 7:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: Shadovv Dragon
You know, I keep hearing this in this thread. So why not own me without them then, Huh?


Hey, no man I'm alot cooler than him. I got a bigger epeen, lets me and you d-d-d-d-d-d-d--dDUEL!!!!! Ima beat you so hard that i will make myself happy and cry youself to sleep lol bu bab,

  • 06.13.2007 8:03 PM PDT

Posted by: Recon Number 54 | Master Forum Ninja |
You're asking people to state which non-released game they like better?

It's like asking a virgin whether they like being on top or on bottom.

Posted by: sk8r13 09
I feel, in my opinion, that button glitching is fine to do in matchmakeing. Like some people feel, I believe it is like playing a fighting game, and the button glitches are just hard to do combos. If you say it takes no skill to do a Excessive Shot, Double Shot, and Quad Shot than you are sadly mistaken(I do think BXR and BXB are pretty easy to do.) I don't have to do any of the button glitches to win a match, and I still do very well without them. And for the people who think it is cheating(Like Bungie). All I have to say is," Why is superbouncing not cheating, but button glitches are?" "They both are things that exploit flaws in the game, everyone can do them, and you don't need to buy excess hardware to make them work(Via Modding)." So why should they be cheating, when other glitches in matchmakeing aren't?

"I don't really Quad Shot that much compared to a regular Double Shot. Instead of a Double Shot-YY-Double Shot,RRX-YY-RRX(Quad Shot). I perfer the "Shot Shot Double Shot."( R-R-RRX) I find the the "Shot Shot Double Shot" has a higher success rate than a Quad, because you are less likely to miss some of your headshots. And if you are good, but not amazing at a Quad Shot(Like myself), then you will have the occasional screw up on the first Double Shot. And most players would be killed in this instance because they were previously taking fire. Now, because you might have screwed up your first Double Shot in the Quad Shot, you now have to run behind a corner. This is where you make a decision; Should you stay there, reaload, and wait for the other player to pop around the corner so you can BXR/BXB him? Or you could try to make a tactical manuever by sneaking around him for the assasination. Or the last thing you could do is suprise by doing an Excessive Shot,BRX-RRX-BRX-RRX(Triple Shot). That would catch him completely off gaurd."


That is a quote by me. Now that might all be running through the normal button glitchers head at the moment you are attacking. Now if you think it takes no skill to do a button glitch, then I would like to you Excessive Shot, or Quad while fighting your opponent. It's a little harder to do, I think, than you people who just pull the R trigger. We, button glitchers, have to push multiple buttons and pull the R trigger in under a second to make one shot work(Double Shot, BXR, and BXB) You non button glitchers are just having to push R trigger every half second. We have to do most of our Quad's and Excessives in under that to make them work correctly. That, my friends, takes way more skill than pulling a trigger, and it takes more concentration and more skill to pull off those button glitches.

One thing that is stupid that I hate about regular open area BR'ing is, it's a whoever shoots first wins. Maybe if there is cover around you can hide and the pull off a four shot on the guys head from a suprise jumping strife. But if you were to say button glitch after he fired off two shots, he might be damaged and forced to retreat, giving you some time to heal, or he could be dead. It's no longer a shoot first win first situation. It's a "Who has more skill?"

And also for the people who button glitch. They are always trying to fight other button glitchers. This makes it really hard, because if both of you are glitching than it's an even battle. But one Double Shot can turn the whole thing around. Now a button glitcher has to look out for people more. If he see's someone he has to make a decision. "Should I fire at him, or wait for him to come here. Because he could turn around and Quad me when I'm only going to fire a Double Shot. Maybe if I hide I can pull of a BXR. But he might see me and do it before me. Maybe I should wait for a teamate, but he might know that, and tell one of his teamates to flank us and shoot us from behind while he Double Shots us. If he shot a regular shot I could live, but that's a maybe" That is running through the mind of a button glitcher. You non-button glitchers should think like that, but you don't because you expect him to play as you do. But he might not. So you get mad in the game and yell and scream "Cheater!" While you, yourself, have probably superbounced in that match and was just killed while you were up there. You darn glitcher.



I'm wondering, did anyone even read my post? Because it points out every argument we are having in here.

  • 06.14.2007 5:25 AM PDT
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I could have sworn I posted in this thread. Oh well.

Don't cheat, don't use glitches, play the game how it was meant to be played.

  • 06.14.2007 12:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: hellodeadman
Wow. Imagine you and another guy had a pistol in your pocket. Now, are you going to go hand to hand with him just because he refuses to use his pistol because it's "Cheap"? You might, and you'd die. But I'd be smart enough to use my pistol and blow your brains out, while you sit there crying that I'm cheating.

And I could still destroy you in hand to hand if I wanted to. But hand to hand is no fun, and I risk getting killed because hand to hand takes less skill than using the pistol, and is completely inconsistent.

See the analogy?


First off, you're comparing a game, which is rooted in the idea of fair play, to real life combat, which isn't.

Secondly, your analogy justifies superbouncing, standbying, and modding. To continue your analogy, you have a gun, great. Why should I risk getting into a straight up gunfight with you when I can mod, which is my version of having a Tank.

Or better yet, why risk getting shot by your pistol when I can use an Air Strike against you, via the handy-dandy standby button?


I'm not gonna get into the actual skill of button-glitchers, cause I'm sure it runs the gamut, but the fact remains that they glitches are cheating, and any attempt to justify them can be equally applied to modding or standbying.

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  • 06.14.2007 2:14 PM PDT
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Anyone who can't press a simple 3 button combination would get beaten either way, it's just so much more hilarious watching you whine about it after you chase me like only a moron would and I'm waiting around the corner and drop you with a BxR.

Halo 2 without BxR = Halo 3 = Designed for the nubs.

  • 06.14.2007 2:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: I Am Godd
Anyone who can't press a simple 3 button combination would get beaten either way, it's just so much more hilarious watching you whine about it after you chase me like only a moron would and I'm waiting around the corner and drop you with a BxR.

Halo 2 without BxR = Halo 3 = Designed for the nubs.


Oh, so you got owned in the Beta, did you?

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No I played 5 or 6 games, and it was boring and slow. I got top 3 every game.

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Posted by: I Am Godd
Anyone who can't press a simple 3 button combination would get beaten either way, it's just so much more hilarious watching you whine about it after you chase me like only a moron would and I'm waiting around the corner and drop you with a BxR.

Halo 2 without BxR = Halo 3 = Designed for the nubs.


You think Halo 3 requires less skill? Wow

  • 06.14.2007 3:11 PM PDT

Obey.

Posted by: HaloFighter92
Posted by: hellodeadman
Wow. Every other post about any sort of button glitches is "I can't wait for Halo 3 so I can finally kill those newbs using button glitches! They would suck without button glitches! I hope they get perma-banned someday!".

My response to that is:

I guarantee you that 70% of the people who kill you with button glitches(Except BXB) could destroy those "Anti-button glitchers" without any glitches whatsoever and/or in Halo 3.

I have two friends that think like that. They think that BXR (they haven't even heard of double shot) is cheap and only for people who "Want to win". They are both horrible and none too bright. That is what I think of most of the Anti-button glitchers population.

RRX takes so much more skill than most things in Halo 2 it's ridiculous. You can't just do it whenever (Unless you're Toxic Euphoria), you have to know when and where and how to execute right. BXR takes less skill and knowledge, but you still can't charge any decent enemy from mid-distance. BXB is pretty brainless.

Flame away.
Looks like your stereotyping yourself. First, you assume there are so many threads about what you told us about, there are not. Second, you think that anybody who DOESNT use the combos are the worst players you can find. Wow, that's an all time low.

I don't use button glitches, but I always own my friends in Snipers and casual BR games. In Team Hardcore, I had Warlock, Team Slayer. Two of our teamates quit because they don't have guts for the sucky map. I didn't have host, they were BXB, RRX and BXR'ing us(or trying to) the whole game and we still one.

Skill > Combos

Those button glitches destroy anti button glitchers because they are using those glitches, obviously, if what you said was true, which it isn't. Players who do not use them are under harsher conditions, less of a choice if you will. And they adapt better overtime then button combo'rs use, It's common sense. Like how I got good at Snipers because I used to be an Elite a lot, I knew when they would shoot and how they would aim and where I should not go.

If you were worth it, I would challenge you to a team Slayer game with Battle Rifles. But if you are going to act like a total ass face then you might as well go kill yourself for pissing off many people on this forum.



I personally don't mind the glitchers. They have become dependent on the BR and only know how to use that weapon. I, on the other hand, can pick up almost any weapon and be proficient with it (except the sniper >_<). One of my favorite custom games to play is luck of the draw (and I play with people who are REALLY good), where you spawn with a random weapon and only have one life. You'd be surprised to hear that 7 or 8 times out of ten, the person with the weapon that people would normally think of as "crap" would win. For example, one of my friends is a monster with nades (I am too) and can turn the magnum into a killing machine with a well-placed grenade. So I say, let them use it. Not only will they have to readjust when halo 3 comes out, but any gametype without BR as starting weap will put them at a serious disadvantage.

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"If you can't beat em' join em'" lol.

  • 06.14.2007 3:52 PM PDT

Posted by: Recon Number 54 | Master Forum Ninja |
You're asking people to state which non-released game they like better?

It's like asking a virgin whether they like being on top or on bottom.

I believe my post just a little more towards the top of this page sums it up.

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Posted by: sk8r13 09
I believe my post just a little more towards the top of this page sums it up.


No, it doesn't.

1- Who said superjumping isn't cheating? It is, as are button glitches.

2- Secondly, you say that using button glitches requires skill, fine. I can make the same argument about superjumping: I have to learn how to do it and then execute it while "under fire", right? Superjumping requires precise movements in particular locations to pull off, right, ergo it requires "skill". To bad it's still cheating, as are button glitches.

3- You advocate that button glitches remove the BR's "first shot kill" ability by giving the guy getting shot a chance of surviving. What this also means is that button glitches negate good teamwork in certain circumstances. For example:

A- You're shooting my teammate and he just gets to cover before you can finish him off, but you're rushing his position. I jump in to bail him out, trying to draw your attention away from him. But lo and behold you turn, quad shot me, then continue on and kill my teammate. Our teamwork is nullified by your glitching.

B- 2 opponents manage to flank you. 1 has an SMG and the other has a BR. Their flanking is pretty much moot since you can probably BXR the SMG guy and then double/triple/quad shot the BR guy.

Lastly, button glitches can be likened to modding, as they require "outside-game" skill, namely, the ability to push buttons in a certain order or an understanding of how to modify hardware components. You're not a better shot, or a better tactician, or a better team leader, or a better grenade chucker, or better at any "in-game" skill if you button-glitch or mod.

[Edited on 06.14.2007 5:42 PM PDT]

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Everyone says button glitches are cheating...I have been using them for so damn long. Have I ever been banned? No. Will I ever be for using them? No. Deal with it. It's a game. Please go cry somewhere else about something you can do nothing about.

  • 06.14.2007 6:16 PM PDT