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This is an archive of quotes from the thread TSHGTBC--AS--. I don't want these quotes to be lost in endless mess, so I created a new thread for all of them. To ninjas: I don't know if you guys are going to lock this thread or not, so i'm holding off from putting any quotes in before I get your OK. Ninjas: please post a "No" or "Yes". Everyone else, though please do not post. This is an archive of quotes, and I don't want them getting lost.

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Posted by: SonicJohn
* GATES AND SWITCHES (PLACEHOLDERS) HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SKULLS..AT ALL!! SO STOP IT...NOW!!!
(Thread formely known as "The Skulls Have Got To Be Cracked -- And Soon")
Updates on Page 54 and 101

Because he is a 100% legend and he holds within his hand all of my honour and pride...I am dedicating not only this thread, but the entire hunt in general to this one man:

SPAR10

Without this man, we would never have gotten as far as we have...however, I am deeply sad to say that he has given us his (apparently final ;) ) farewell. The NExt small section will be his list of very informative and collective genius up to this point. SPAR10 has always felt like my 1st Mate as it were...and I will dearly miss him from this hunt entirely...Live Long And Prosper my friend, may TUE be with you :)

His last words:

i. Clarification
ii. The Path
iii. Goodbye

I Must say SPAR10...it has been an honour, and i agree with everythign you have said in your goodbyes. Farewell.

7ΓΏ7Π

*Thread Begins*

I feel that there's not enough searching for the Skulls' secret going down. It's been ages since we discovered the orginal "Blind" Skull. We really ought to figure out the whole Acronym theory. Bungie (I'm sure of it) have already confirmed that the letters "EGATFIBGBCSIMAW" in a certain order do, in fact, unlock something subtle. And as we're getting closer to Halo 3 I propose a challenge for all of you "hardcore" and "casual" Halo 2 gamers out there :D.

THE CHALLENGE

The challenge is to completely figure out the whole Skull deal. It's been too long. Be it manual searching - "Trial & Error" - or any alternative method. The only problem I have is Modding, although, reading some Hex-file reading would be very useful.

There are many useful resources located at the bottom of this post.
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A list of Confirmed Skulls:

Envy
Grunt Birthday Party
Assassins
Thunderstorm
Famine
I Would Have Been Your Daddy
Blind
Ghost
Black Eye
Catch
Sputnik
Iron
Mythic
Angry
W ???
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Ah, help has arrived:
See here for a list of Skull Combinations.
Credit goes to TheKillaIsBack, and Howru.
TheKillaIsBack has also made a tutorial video on how to get the IWHBYD skull, here
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Guide for Infinate Camo:

Get the Envy Skull (Delta Halo).
Start another level you want the Camo on.
Activate the camo in such a way that you'll be invisinble when a checkpoint message appears on the screen.
Save and quit.
Turn off your Xbox.
Turn on your Xbox.
Resume the game and you should have perma camo for that level.

Skulls (Only) Held On Completetion of Level Vids
Armory - By DeadlyDean
Cairo Station - By DeadlyDean
Outskirts - By DeadlyDean
Metropolis - A - By DeadlyDean
Metropolis - B - By BIO Culke
The Arbiter - N/A (yet) - Seems to be slightly impossible on Single Player...Co-op seems easier
The Oracle - By DeadlyDean
Delta Halo - By DeadlyDean
Regret - By DeadlyDean
Sacred Icon - By DeadlyDean
Quarantine Zone - N/A (yet)
Gravemind - N/A (yet)
Uprising - By BIO Culke
High Charity - N/A (yet)
The Great Journey - N/A (yet)

The reason that a Skull isn't not shown as being held is because the cutscene shown is actually the cutscene for the following level, so the Skull is discarded. The above will all be completed and filmed. This is (partly for kicks) to show that the Skulls are implented in the Script one way or another. Enjoy.

Skull Dropping - Sword Glitch
This is a funny little glitch (discovered during the Outskirts Skull run) that shows that sometimes - when the Chief is without weapons - when he drops the Skull, he pretends to strike up a Sword. Enjoy.

WHAT WE HAVE FIGURED OUT/UNDERSTAND SO FAR! Be wary of Shift Key

* EGATFIBGBCSIMAW IS AN ACRONYM, NOT AN ANAGRAM. BUNGIE HAS THUS FAR ONLY EVER WORKED WITH ACRONYMS

* THERE IS NO GOLDEN WARTHOG AT ALL.

* THERE IS NO OPENABLE GATE ON COAGULATION, HEADLONG, TERMINAL OR ANY OTHER MULTIPLAYER MAP THAT RUMOURS HAVE BEEN NOTED ON.

* PLEASE DON'T NOTIFY US ABOUT THE ASSASSINS SKULL....YES IT APPEARS ON ALL DIFFICULTIES ON REGRET...NO NEED TO RE-POST ABOUT IT.

* THERE ARE NO MORE SKULLS...ALL HAVE BEEN FOUND (ACCORDING TO BUNGIE)

* WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR SKULLS, WE ARE LOOKING FOR A PRIZE AFTER COLLECTING ALL OF THE SKULLS IN A CERTAIN ORDER

* WE'RE ALSO NOT LOOKING FOR A SPECIFIC FINAL PRIZE. WE DO NOT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT "TUE" IS.

* BUNGIE SAID THERE WASN'T ANYTHING ON THE SCALE OF A SKULL, THIS DOES NOT RULE OUT MORE EASTER EGGS. THERE MAY BE EGGS ON A GREATER/LESSER SCALE THAN THE SKULLS.

* ICE CREAM IS IRON...DON'T SAY DIFFERENTLY (SAYS SO IN THE HEX...AKA GAME CODING)

* NOTICE THAT BUNGIE HAVEN'T LOCKED (although Shishka has posted once) THIS THREAD YET...THIS MEANS THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING GOING ON HERE.

* THEY MENTION PLACEHOLDERS HERE SO THIS CAN MEAN THE SWITCHES ARE PLACEHOLDERS. BUNGIE ARE ALWAYS GIVING HINTS.

* THE POSTERS WITH 1 AND 7 IN THE IWHBYD ROOM ARE HINTING TO THE SKULL SPAWNING RANDOMLY 1 IN EVERY 7 IWHBYD RUNS.

* CO-OP SKULLS COLLECTING IS NOT A IDEA WORTH TRYING BECAUSE THE IWHBYD WILL NOT LOAD AND THE IRON THROWS YOU BOTH BACK YOUR MOST RECENT CHECKPOINT IF ONE OF YOU DIES.

* THERE WILL NOT BE ANY SKULL HINTS IN EITHER HALO 1 OR HALO 3.

* THE ARMORY SKULL CAN BE KNOWN AS: "WHUPPOPOTAMUS", "WOULD IT HELP IF I SAID PLEASE?", "COW BELL" OR THE MOST POPULAR ONE "UNNAMED". THERE IS JUST NO VISIBLE NAME WHEN YOU PICK IT UP.

* MOST OF THE PICTURES OF THE LEVELS SHOW THE AREA ROUGHLY NEAR WHERE THE SKULLS ARE LOCATED. THIS MAY BE IMPORTANT.

* WITH THE BLIND SKULL, IF YOU PRESS YOUR TORCH BUTTON, THE LIGHT WILL SPAWN WHERE YOU PICKED UP THE BLIND SKULL, IT WILL NOT EFFECT THE OTHER SKULLS. THE LIGHT JUST DECIDED TO GET LEFT BEHIND WITH THE SNIPER SCOPE.

* COLLECTING SKULLS ON THE 15 DIFFERENT PROFILES WILL STILL WORK IN THE SAME WAY AS IF YOU HAD GONE AND COLLECTED THEM ALL ON ONE PROFILE. THE SKULL EFFECT IS CARRIED OVER, UNTIL YOU TURN OFF YOUR XBOX.

* THE FLOATING GRUNT AND ELITES ON CAIRO HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SKULLS.

* THERE ARE FLOATING BOXES AND OBJECTS NEAR EDGES OF MAPS (SUCH AS "THE GREAT JOURNEY" AND "GRAVEMIND") BUT THESE DO NOTHING MORE THAN FALL DOWN TO THE GROUND ONCE TOUCHED.

* YOU CANNOT FLY A BANSHEE ON DELTA HALO WITHOUT MODIFIED CONTENT.

* NOT ALL MODDERS ARE BAD, MOST JUST MAKE COOL MAPS AND STUFF.

* "THAT'S JUST...WRONG" WAS DISCOVERED AT THE END OF A SKULL-HEX-LINE, THIS MAY BE THE TRIGGER MESSAGE FOR THE PRIZE, OR THE ACTUAL PRIZE. WE DO NOT KNOW AS OF YET. IT IS CERTAINLY NO SKULL.

* NUMBERS ON THE BACK OF THE SKULLS I DOUBT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE ORDER.

* THERE ARE ITEMS AROUND THE SKULLS THAT HELP YOU DECIDE THE ORDER. THE ORDER IN THE HEX IS THE SUPPOSEDLY REAL COMBO (SEEN AS COMBO 9 IN THE COMBO THREAD)

* WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING THROUGH MAKING VIDS FOR ALL THE LEVELS BEING COMPLETED WITH ONLY SKULLS. BE PATIENT PLEASE.

* JUST BECAUSE MODDERS CAN'T FIND IT WITHIN THE GAME'S CODING...DOESN'T MEAN IT WILL NOT BE HIDDEN VISUALLY...THINK "HI BEN"...

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Any more help on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
Major thanks to peeps helping already.

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Links:

The Very First Skull-Thread

Tri-Gate on Delta Halo

A Group On Bungie.net dedicated to searching for Skulls -- Check it Out

High Impact Halo's (Locked) Skull Forum

High Impact Halo's List of where to find Skulls

Bungie.net's very own Easter Egg Thread

My little Skull Sumarry on my website.

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If anyone's interested in this challenge, please feel free to pick up your Xbox controller, flex those knuckles, switch on any Instant Messenger with friends and get searching.

Expected Deadline: Halo 3's Release Date

Thanks for any help.
SonicJohn


The very first post by SonicJohn, creator of TSHGTBC--AS-- A good reference.

  • 06.12.2007 12:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: The SyNnergy

Combination 1
Envy, Ghost, Assassin, Thunderstorm, Famine, I.W.B.Y.D, Blind, G.B.P, Black eye, Catch, Sputnik, Iron, Mythic, and Angry.

Combination 2
Envy, Ghost, Assassin, Thunderstorm, Famine, I.W.B.Y.D, Black eye, G.B.P, Blind, Catch, Sputnik, Iron, Mythic, and Angry.

Combination 3
Envy, Ghost, Assassin, Thunderstorm, Famine, Iron, Blind, G.B.P, Black eye, Catch, Sputnik, I.W.B.Y.D, Mythic, Angry.

Combination 4
Envy, Ghost, Assassin, Thunderstorm, Famine, Iron, Black eye, G.B.P, Blind, Catch, Sputnik, I.W.B.Y.D, Mythic, and Angry.

Combination 5
Envy, Ghost, Angry, Thunderstorm, Famine, I.W.B.Y.D, Blind, G.B.P, Black eye, Catch, Sputnik, Iron, Mythic, and Assassin.

Combination 6
Envy, Ghost, Angry, Thunderstorm, Famine, I.W.B.Y.D, Black eye, G.B.P, Blind, Catch, Sputnik, Iron, Mythic, and Assassin.

Combination 7
Envy, Ghost, Angry, Thunderstorm, Famine, Iron, Blind, G.B.P, Black eye, Catch, Sputnik, I.W.B.Y.D, Mythic, and Assassin.

Combination 8
Envy, Ghost, Angry, Thunderstorm, Famine, Iron, Black eye, G.B.P, Blind, Catch, Sputnik, I.W.B.Y.D, Mythic, and Assassin.

Combination 9
Envy, G.B.P., Assassin, Thunderstorm, Famine, I.W.B.Y.D, Blind, Ghost, Black eye, Catch, Sputnik, Iron, Mythic, and Angry.

Combination 10
Envy, G.B.P., Assassin, Thunderstorm, Famine, I.W.B.Y.D, Black eye, Ghost, Blind, Catch, Sputnik, Iron, Mythic, and Angry.

Combination 11
Envy, G.B.P., Assassin, Thunderstorm, Famine, Iron, Blind, Ghost, Black eye, Catch, Sputnik, I.W.B.Y.D, Mythic, and Angry.

Combination 12
Envy, G.B.P., Assassin, Thunderstorm, Famine, Iron, Black eye, Ghost, Blind, Catch, Sputnik, I.W.B.Y.D, Mythic, and Angry.

Combination 13
Envy, G.B.P., Angry, Thunderstorm, Famine, I.W.B.Y.D, Blind, Ghost, Black eye, Catch, Sputnik, Iron, Mythic, and Assassin.

Combination 14
Envy, G.B.P., Angry, Thunderstorm, Famine, I.W.B.Y.D, Black eye, Ghost, Blind, Catch, Sputnik, Iron, Mythic, and Assassin.

Combination 15
Envy, G.B.P., Angry, Thunderstorm, Famine, Iron, Blind, Ghost, Black eye, Catch, Sputnik, I.W.B.Y.D, Mythic, and Assassin.

Combination 16
Envy, G.B.P., Angry, Thunderstorm, Famine, Iron, Black eye, Ghost, Blind, Catch, Sputnik, I.W.B.Y.D, Mythic and Assassin.

All of these are to be confirmed still. Credit goes to TheKillaIsBack, and Howru for their being oh so clever and helpful.




The sixteen combos of skulls to fit EGATFIBGBCSIMAW.

  • 06.12.2007 12:26 PM PDT
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There's 20,922,789,890,000 different combinations of skulls, so even if you found one combination every minute, you would die before you found the right one.



WOW. Thank god for EGATFIBGBCSIMAW narrowing it down...

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Posted by: DOUBLEKILLPHIL
If you carry the blind skull all the way to the IWHBYD skull it will send you to the elite fight before you even get in the room.




This is a prime example of the activation zones. When you pick up a skull outside of the area you found it, it won't work. Likewise, if you carry a skull to another skull's location (you can only do this on outskirts), it will give you that location's effect.

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Posted by: LoneSangheili
You guys are right!!! The switch does nothing! But, I have found out something much more subtle and awsome. I have sucessfully stacked all the skulls in the correct order. You wont be able to survive the grenade jumps to the switch, not with the blackeye skull, so that was bull-blam!-. However, when you stack the skulls using saved profiles with checkpoints, it becomes a small game. Like you only have one chance to get the catch skull with the blackeye skull activated. Also I think that there is a definite pattern that the skulls are to be found in. Using some sketchy logic, I figured out a new order thats definitely the order that bungie intended for me to get them in. Another super odd thing is that the IWHBYD fight is affected very very dramatically upon the stacking of the skulls. Not only do your sheilds not charge back up ontheir own accord, but the enemies are invisible, and on top of that, you must get used to playing the game by the sounds of your armor and weapons as the blind skull makes for some seriously immersive gameplay. Also with the blind skull on, ironically, the noob doesnt blind you. The only bad part is that you have to get used to using a piece of tape as your retucle, but even that is very affective at aiding you in the battle with the elites. I have far overestimated the difficulty of this puzzle, however I will report back as soon as the last elite falls, and those fabled words flash then fade. This has nothing to do with the switch. In fact the switch is the last skull. Something big is going to happen when I pick up the unnamed, to battle 28 elites in that manner. They are protecting something, because now when I play the IWHBYD skull, they dont jeer and taunt at me calling me a sniveling grunt, but they stay silent as if bungie threw the diologue in there to hide the skulls true meaning. Because even if you dont pick the IWHBYD skull up, the characters still say outragous things from time to time. The IWHBYD skull was meant to be got like this, because thats why you warp to the starting locations after crossing certain boundries, to give you your health back as well as a new noob. I am so close to something so big, but please hear me.. THE GATE WAS A HOAX! YOU CANNOT GRENADE JUMP TO THE GATE WITH THE BLACKEYE SKULL, UNLESS YOU PRECHARGE YOUR SHEILDS INTO THE OVERCHARGE RANGE. INSTEAD FOCUS YOU EFFORTS ON CONQUERING THE IWHBYD SKULL WITH THE SKULLS ARRANGED IN THIS ORDER:

Envy
Grunt Birthday Party
Assassins
Thunderstorm
Famine
Iron
Blackeye
Ghost
Blind
Catch
Sputnick
IWHBYD
Mythic
Angry
Whuppapottimus or whatever.

I will complete this puzzle, I must earn my journey.


This guy has some good ideas, makes good points, and put a lot of work into this.

[Edited on 06.12.2007 1:03 PM PDT]

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