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Subject: watch out for these cheating american gamers
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Poll: should there be 2 live servers one for europe and one for usa  [closed]
yes let americans cheat with other americans:  35%
(7 Votes)
no let americans carry on laggin up live:  15%
(3 Votes)
dont care:  50%
(10 Votes)
Total Votes: 20

it seems that american gamers are at it again tryin to ruin a great game by purposely laggin games up to win games, me and my mates were looking for a team skirmish game and bungie matched us up wiv these gamers : ravenous x , xxhectickxx, x sako x, there was another gamer but didnt get his tag, anyway the game started and we couldnt move at all and they could , very quickly they had amounted 20 kills and still we couldnt move then we heard game over, what they do is press standby on their modem fer a few secs then press it again and it causes major lag for us but not for them, its sad how its always americans who are out to spoil great games, i hope someone at bungie reads this and does something about it because its ridiculous.......

  • 11.18.2004 3:19 AM PDT
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And just how the -blam!- are you making the assumption that these people are Americans? And how do you know they're even DOING this? Come on man, quit being so blatantly racist.

  • 11.18.2004 4:02 AM PDT
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Well i got to admit, some American's online are dumb on Xbox Live, like one said to me in a Matchmaking game on Headlong "if anyone goes upstair's i will kill you" i said i will do as i please and he replied "you know who i am? i am a American"
it's them type of American's that deserve a kick in the ball's afew time's.

Sadly that's life your going to meet them one way or another, and if you think American's are bad then look at the French and yes they do cheat at ANY game..................

  • 11.18.2004 4:03 AM PDT
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Hear, hear. I understand how upset people can be on the receiving end of such a lag, as I am certainly still working at not takng 1st place gracefully, but there will never be a good enough reason to set a flame post that degrades the masses.

  • 11.18.2004 6:12 AM PDT
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I rather like being a hamburger eating cowboy. Although I am british on both sides of my family I consider myself thoroughly american. What's wrong with hamburgers. What's wrong with cowboys? I would rather this than being a cheese eating surrender monkey. You for example must **** yourself every time you are in a match against an american. you must be marching in and assuming that because you are from europe that we should handicap ourselves so that you dont suck and blow? Well you know what I think FU.

[Edited on 11/18/2004 6:40:02 AM]

  • 11.18.2004 6:37 AM PDT
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It really is rather unfair to judge all Americans by the jerks you played with. As an American who is also frequently annoyed by the lack of maturity displayed by gamers on XBox Live, I can sympathize--but don't tar us all with the same brush.

  • 11.18.2004 6:49 AM PDT
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...and then an American goes out of his way to be a dick on a public forum. Waffle, if you're so proud to be an American, why don't you try being intelligent, literate, and on-topic? You're giving him more ammunition, not refuting his point.

Also, any American who pays attention to the President's rhetoric ought to know that cheese-eating surrender monkeys are French, not British.

  • 11.18.2004 6:59 AM PDT
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Wow.

That's hilarious. "I'm an American!" I think if I ever heard that on live, I would have trouble taking it seriously.

I know some americans are jerks, but that can be said about every country in the world! Except the french; they hate everyone, even their own! I would know, I'm french! I hate you all! I mean, "why else would I have this OUTRAGEOUS accent!" if it were not to annoy you on live games!

Me: "Quickly, you must capturer le drapeau!"
You: "wtf"

Dirty english and american pig-dogs! Don't make me beat you with my baguette! Now stop arguing over who's the biggest jerk.

Why can't we just laugh at these things instead of getting so upset about them?

[Edited on 11/18/2004 7:58:09 AM]

  • 11.18.2004 7:56 AM PDT
Subject: lol, pain despenser, u rule man
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i am a swety english type therefore not the king of the brittons but i would be delighted if king arthur did actually find that blody golden cup!

dude u rule! ^^

~pacman~

  • 11.18.2004 8:08 AM PDT
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You cheesy lot of second hand electric donkey bottom biters! (This is so much more enjoyable as a Monty Python thread than what it was originally)
Now to address the original topic, welcome to the world that is online gaming.

Edit note: Btw PLEASE POST THREADS IN THE RELAVENT TOPIC FORUM!!!!

[Edited on 11/18/2004 8:26:22 AM]

  • 11.18.2004 8:21 AM PDT
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Well as far as I know it's not very cool to be an american these times. But anyway I think this topic is kind of pointless 'cause it isn't only americans who cheat. Actually I haven't experienced any cheaters on xbx live yet.

[Edited on 11/18/2004 8:23:17 AM]

  • 11.18.2004 8:22 AM PDT
Subject: cheating kids
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i'm british and i don't like SOME americans *political* attitude as much as the next man, but its stupid to hate all of them for it, and use them as a scapegoat for anything that a few of their citizens do because of a personality flaw. the whole country was split practically 50/50 on the vote, half hate the other half for their views, and everyone is agreed that the president is a couple of classes short of a semester. sounds like they were just kids being kids. i should know. i was a little annoying kid once as were all of you. i have younger brothers who are annoying. you get annoying kids in every culture. just let them get the cheating out of thier systems.if you give a verbal reaction, they get their fun, thats the point. they couldnt care less about the game, because it isnt enjoyable to cheat. leave the game, find someone else to play. that simple.

  • 11.18.2004 8:59 AM PDT
Subject: watch out for these cheating american gamers
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Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: Lt mak uk
it seems that american gamers are at it again tryin to ruin a great game by purposely laggin games up to win games, me and my mates were looking for a team skirmish game and bungie matched us up wiv these gamers : ravenous x , xxhectickxx, x sako x, there was another gamer but didnt get his tag, anyway the game started and we couldnt move at all and they could , very quickly they had amounted 20 kills and still we couldnt move then we heard game over, what they do is press standby on their modem fer a few secs then press it again and it causes major lag for us but not for them, its sad how its always americans who are out to spoil great games, i hope someone at bungie reads this and does something about it because its ridiculous.......

Thank you for lumping an entire nationality together based on the perceived actions of a few. The funny thing is, that Americans are always told that they're the narrow-minded prejudicial bigots of the world. *sigh*

I am assuming that you have proof of "American gamers" using this technique? I would imagine that having that 3rd hand to work their broadband modem means that you likely think that they (those nasty American gamers) are 3 armed mutants as well. Or, they have psychic powers if they have their Xbox and broadband setup in separate rooms?

My experience is that the moment there is lag of nearly any sort on a H2 game; everyone is taken to a blue waiting screen until the lag is resolved. Did this not happen in your game? I've found it to be the best solution to the problem of lag. And lag definitely occurs more often for uncontrollable reasons than it does due to human malice.

I have also heard that many games played between continents suffer from inherent lag, not user created lag. As much as we would like to think that we are all one big happy global gaming community that is apparently not the case. (Obviously we are big, some of us are not that happy, and sadly a few of us are not a community)

I can think of 4 things that you could have done.

* Tried this method of cheating yourself (I am glad that you did not)
* Left the match. (it appears that you stuck it out)
* Reported this suspected abuse to XBL [color= white]feedback[/color] along with any evidence that you have to support your allegations. (I have no idea if you did)
* Create an online poll that because of how the choices are phrased, requires respondents to agree that "Americans cheat".

Unfortunately, how you have voiced your opinion, your poll and your choice of wording demonstrates that you're not really asking for assistance, you are merely slandering a large group of individuals that (IMO) would have been inclined to assist you if you had stated your facts calmly and without the vitriol.

I for one am looking and willing to do anything that I can to improve the online gaming experience for all Bungie fans throughout the world. If someone or some groups are intentionally making that less possible, they should be stopped. Unfortunately, I am also an "American gamer" and since you believe that "it’s always Americans who are out to spoil great games" I couldn't possibly mean what I say.




i was gonna write something

but i don't think i can really say it any better then this man said it here

one thing i can say is yes there are always people oiut to cheat and ruin games
not just "america" they are evrywhere

please stereo types help nothing for anyone

  • 11.18.2004 9:13 AM PDT