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Posted by: ObbiQuiet
We have some pretty god damn good guesses about how obelisks, pyramids, and other gigantic ancient structures were built. It doesn't take a more powerful machine to construct ramps and pulleys, you know.

Yeah, I was watching a special on that a few years back. A group of scientists were trying to raise blocks, using only what they had back then. It was difficult mainly because 1) they might have been under-staffed and 2) scientists don't have the physical abilities of, lets say, a slave that's been working for his entire life.

But they basically had a few ideas of how it would be possible.


The wind power idea?? That's the closest we can figure. But we still aren't sure -- and that still wouldn't help in Greece -- We simply have no idea -

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Posted by: ObbiQuiet
We have some pretty god damn good guesses about how obelisks, pyramids, and other gigantic ancient structures were built. It doesn't take a more powerful machine to construct ramps and pulleys, you know.

Yeah, I was watching a special on that a few years back. A group of scientists were trying to raise blocks, using only what they had back then. It was difficult mainly because 1) they might have been under-staffed and 2) scientists don't have the physical abilities of, lets say, a slave that's been working for his entire life.

But they basically had a few ideas of how it would be possible.


The wind power idea?? That's the closest we can figure. But we still aren't sure -- and that still wouldn't help in Greece -- We simply have no idea -


Just what are you trying to say, anyway? If they were more intelligent back then, despite the amount of proof we have that humans use the full capacity of their brains, why would we have not found any advanced technological tools? Why would we have lost it all? Anything can be with numbers and simple machines.

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Posted by: SgtSTFU
Humans don't even use 10 percent.. its more like 5 or 6, but yeah, if we all used 100 percent of our brains, we'd all be smart as the smartest supercomputer times ten, and thousands of other uknown possibilities


if that is true then are super coms would be smarter

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Computers aren't really "smart". They can remember very well, they can solve complex mathematical equations, and they can be programmed to respond to certain actions in certain ways. But as far as I can see, and I may be wrong on this, no computer is capable of critcal thinking for itself.

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Posted by: Tanikaze

Just what are you trying to say, anyway? If they were more intelligent back then, despite the amount of proof we have that humans use the full capacity of their brains, why would we have not found any advanced technological tools? Why would we have lost it all? Anything can be with numbers and simple machines.


We lost quite a bit more than tools -- we lost a library full of imagined scientific progress that likely set us back thousands of years.

I'm trying to say that once we got to a certain point -- where we developed the tools to make things easier -- we lost the need to evolve those though processes...

For instance -- with the widespread usage of the Typewriter/WordProcessor in recent years, handwriting has taken a hit -- generally speaking -- Look at older documents - hand written -- incredibly legible -- even artistic in a manner of speaking (Old French and British Illuminated scripts illustrate it perfectly) Now look at the last prescription you got from your Doctor (A learned person by todays standards)


That's just one minor example --

As for Mathematics -- take a peek at the colums of the Parthenon in Greece -- The look perfectly straight from any distance of 20 feet away or more -- and they curve outward slightly. Mathmatically perfectly to give that illusion that they are perfectly straight for miles around. measured within the millimeter. Almost 3500 years ago they planned the building and mathematics to do it.

Look at the Colosseum in Rome -- it was built in 7 years. Give a similar sized workforce of today (The best of the best) and give them the same tools -- and there is no possible way they'd get it done in that time. The Colosseum also had working elevators that could move an elephant -- made out of help rope and Wood -- that blended with the floor so well that they could flood it to simulate sea battles.

Those are only a few examples.

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Posted by: Tanikaze
Computers aren't really "smart". They can remember very well, they can solve complex mathematical equations, and they can be programmed to respond to certain actions in certain ways. But as far as I can see, and I may be wrong on this, no computer is capable of critcal thinking for itself.


Quite correct -- Computers only know on and off.

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The whole only use ten percent of our brain thing is true well it's 6 % but the thing is that we only use a max of 6% of our brain at a time and for diffrent things. So we do use our entire brain but not all at the same time

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So GameJunkie, we have all of this stuff we don't know. Some of the stuff in your post can be debunked, but I'm not going to go through it all again, as I'm very tired. I'd like to know how you can explain the two websites that were linked.

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Posted by: Tanikaze
So GameJunkie, we have all of this stuff we don't know. Some of the stuff in your post can be debunked, but I'm not going to go through it all again, as I'm very tired. I'd like to know how you can explain the two websites that were linked.


I never disagreed with them entirely -- but those two websites never actually proved anything.

And my post was very short -- please debunk it.

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Posted by: GameJunkieJim
Posted by: Tanikaze
So GameJunkie, we have all of this stuff we don't know. Some of the stuff in your post can be debunked, but I'm not going to go through it all again, as I'm very tired. I'd like to know how you can explain the two websites that were linked.


I never disagreed with them entirely -- but those two websites never actually proved anything.

And my post was very short -- please debunk it.


It was only one or two parts. But regardless of what you or I say, neither of us will probably ever change our minds. We just don't have the evidence. So, I concede. There's a possibility I won't touch this topic again.

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Posted by: Tanikaze
Computers aren't really "smart". They can remember very well, they can solve complex mathematical equations, and they can be programmed to respond to certain actions in certain ways. But as far as I can see, and I may be wrong on this, no computer is capable of critcal thinking for itself.


Quite correct -- Computers only know on and off.

Also know as 1 and 0 or True and False

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Posted by: Tanikaze
So GameJunkie, we have all of this stuff we don't know. Some of the stuff in your post can be debunked, but I'm not going to go through it all again, as I'm very tired. I'd like to know how you can explain the two websites that were linked.


I never disagreed with them entirely -- but those two websites never actually proved anything.

And my post was very short -- please debunk it.


It was only one or two parts. But regardless of what you or I say, neither of us will probably ever change our minds. We just don't have the evidence. So, I concede. There's a possibility I won't touch this topic again.


I wasn't meaning to offend you if indeed I did --

What I posted was simply true to the best of my knowledge -- if something has come along in the last month or so that has changed since the last time I saw something about it -- please let me know -- I'm friendly enough!

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