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Subject: The spawns are bad :(

John 3:16

Who else thinks so?
I don't even know where to begin.

But all I can say is that the spawns aren't balanced.

I'm always wayyy too far to help a friend, or way too close.
A lot of times, I find the enemy spawning so close that all he has to do is throw a grenade to finish me off after a large fight.
What an effortless kill.

Sorry bungie but it's really aggravating me and my friend. And many times, it favors the opponents since they spawn next to a BR and we have to jump into the fray just to pick one up *ahem double team WARLOCK*. And the bad part about that, is that we have no choice but to either a) get grenaded b) jump in and hope they miss c) hope they don't see us.

It's ridiculous. How many times have me and my friend had a favorable spawn? few, but not enough to count all the enemies we run into that had a spawn rigged in their favor.

  • 06.14.2007 9:34 PM PDT

I run into burning buildings!!!

I personally love when you kill someone and they spawn behind you and gett ya from behind.

[Edited on 06.14.2007 9:38 PM PDT]

  • 06.14.2007 9:37 PM PDT

I have the same problem with Asencsion. When the other team is dominating the power weapons and you spawn middle.

  • 06.14.2007 9:40 PM PDT

Posted by: Duardo
I'd love to be a 10 year old and tell my mom I'm going on an adventure out into the world catching Pokemon, with her full support. Never mind the fact that there are rapists, criminals, and murders out there, or the fact that I may get killed by a Pokemon.

Luckily I have Pikachu.

The problem is you laways spawn near a teammate... thats how both the Halo 2 and Halo 3 spawn system works.

  • 06.14.2007 9:42 PM PDT
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I know you are "supposed to" spawn near your teammates, but ESPECIALLY on Tombstone I ALWAYS spawn in the most random locations usually right in front of the other team. But I don't know which is worse...spawning in front of other teammates or right out in the open on Tombstone. I keep having both happen to me.

  • 06.14.2007 9:49 PM PDT

Don't send me group invites.

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The problem is you laways spawn near a teammate... thats how both the Halo 2 and Halo 3 spawn system works.
That's not always the case, sometimes I will spawn on the other side of the map while my teammate is getting killed and by the time I get there he is dead the enemy has got their shields back. Then when I kill one and am working on the other, the other guy spawns right next to him while my teammate spawned far away.

Makes no sense.

  • 06.14.2007 10:15 PM PDT
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Regardless of how Bungie arranges the spawn system people will always complain about having "bad spawns"

  • 06.14.2007 10:23 PM PDT
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Who here thinks they should make a uber powerful Grunt Plasma Rifle thats shoots out naked flaming Chuck Norrises?

I hate spawning 5 times in the same spot, spawning right in front of someone with sword/shotgun or the ever great one, where you just died and get killed again.

  • 06.14.2007 10:25 PM PDT
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Colossus has some of the worst spawning spots I've ever been in. What made it worse was that it was an 8 vs. 3 game.

  • 06.14.2007 10:32 PM PDT

you know the spawns r -blam!- and its sucks when u spawn right in front of the teammate with the sniper and it goes betrayal as soon as u spawn that sucks it keeps happening to me

  • 06.15.2007 5:31 AM PDT

Please no group invites... I only play MLG customs and don't spend my time wasting it on groups,clans or any other internet social crap.

I don't understand why people have a problem with this? You spawn next to your team? OHHHH NO!!!

No one -blam!-es about spawns, if you grew up playing CE. Halo CE, you'd ALWAYS spawn next to your teammate even if he or she was getting 3 shot'd. It's a team based game. As for having the "OTHER" team spawn around you, that's caused because of 3 reasons.

1.) You are by yourself and your teammates are causing them to spawn near you.
2.) Your entier team is spread across the baord, and they have to spawn somewhere
3.) You spawn out in the middle of maps, BECAUSE TEY CONTROL THE SIDES!! where else are you going to spawn?

(you spawn behind the sniper on the SIDE TOWER in Accesions, when they are on top of the ramp) far enough away from the spawn point to register. That's why it's a TEAM game, have a teammate behind you and that doesn't happen.

The BETA is the only thing that has bad spawn point. It would just randomly drop people and the other team's "friendly spawns" even if the whole team was there.

If you have played Halo CE, you know what it feels like to KEEP spawning INVIS and RED FOREST (columns) in Hang em High.

  • 06.15.2007 8:30 AM PDT

the worst level for this is zanzibar on team snipers... u kill someone while u are on the sea wall and then u get sniped from behiind...

also once i spawned and was killed like a milesecond after spawning by a rocket...

guess wot... the rocket was my own from the other side of the map before i died!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 06.15.2007 10:36 AM PDT

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Wow. You seem to enjoy drinking fermented cat piss.

If it's got MC on the can I'll drink it.


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Yeah, maybe McDonald's will start putting GTA action figures in all of their happy meals too.
You can eat your nuggets and slap your hoes all at the same time!

Posted by: xVxV3ndettA
And many times, it favors the opponents since they spawn next to a BR and we have to jump into the fray just to pick one up *ahem double team WARLOCK*. And the bad part about that, is that we have no choice but to either a) get grenaded b) jump in and hope they miss c) hope they don't see us.


You forgot another option, d) just don't go for the BR. If you're complaining about not spawning near power weapons then get good with less powerful weapons. I know it's completely unthinkable, how will you ever live without constantly using the sword??? If your complaing about the other team spawning near you it's because your team is somewhere else. So just try and stick with the rest of your team and don't go solo. There, problems solved.

  • 06.15.2007 11:01 AM PDT

John 3:16

Posted by: Final Sentence
I don't understand why people have a problem with this? You spawn next to your team? OHHHH NO!!!

No one -blam!-es about spawns, if you grew up playing CE. Halo CE, you'd ALWAYS spawn next to your teammate even if he or she was getting 3 shot'd. It's a team based game. As for having the "OTHER" team spawn around you, that's caused because of 3 reasons.

1.) You are by yourself and your teammates are causing them to spawn near you.
2.) Your entier team is spread across the baord, and they have to spawn somewhere
3.) You spawn out in the middle of maps, BECAUSE TEY CONTROL THE SIDES!! where else are you going to spawn?

(you spawn behind the sniper on the SIDE TOWER in Accesions, when they are on top of the ramp) far enough away from the spawn point to register. That's why it's a TEAM game, have a teammate behind you and that doesn't happen.

The BETA is the only thing that has bad spawn point. It would just randomly drop people and the other team's "friendly spawns" even if the whole team was there.

If you have played Halo CE, you know what it feels like to KEEP spawning INVIS and RED FOREST (columns) in Hang em High.


But that dosent compare to when my team spawns at banshee and red team spawns right next to rockets in Double Team.
In addition to that, we were repeatedly spawned at banchee while they locked us in with Rockets. Sure we had BR, but we had horrible positions up until they had 10 kills. we couldn't go anywhere. Horrible.

  • 06.15.2007 1:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: chazman1991
the worst level for this is zanzibar on team snipers... u kill someone while u are on the sea wall and then u get sniped from behiind...

also once i spawned and was killed like a milesecond after spawning by a rocket...

guess wot... the rocket was my own from the other side of the map before i died!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wow, that had to suck.

  • 06.18.2007 7:06 AM PDT
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Posted by: Final Sentence
I don't understand why people have a problem with this? You spawn next to your team? OHHHH NO!!!

No one -blam!-es about spawns, if you grew up playing CE. Halo CE, you'd ALWAYS spawn next to your teammate even if he or she was getting 3 shot'd. It's a team based game. As for having the "OTHER" team spawn around you, that's caused because of 3 reasons.

1.) You are by yourself and your teammates are causing them to spawn near you.
2.) Your entier team is spread across the baord, and they have to spawn somewhere
3.) You spawn out in the middle of maps, BECAUSE TEY CONTROL THE SIDES!! where else are you going to spawn?

(you spawn behind the sniper on the SIDE TOWER in Accesions, when they are on top of the ramp) far enough away from the spawn point to register. That's why it's a TEAM game, have a teammate behind you and that doesn't happen.

The BETA is the only thing that has bad spawn point. It would just randomly drop people and the other team's "friendly spawns" even if the whole team was there.

If you have played Halo CE, you know what it feels like to KEEP spawning INVIS and RED FOREST (columns) in Hang em High.


Not to disagree with you here, but what about when you spawn in the same room as the entire other team on the first spawn of the game? It's happened to me on lockout before.

  • 06.18.2007 7:08 AM PDT

I agree at times terrible spawns do occur, but you make it sound like the game is rigged against you. It's obviously not...every bad spawn you get your opponent will also get because they are playing with the same spawn system you are. "And many times, it favors the opponents..." Let's think about that statement for a second. Aren't you someone elses opponent, thus doesn't that statement also apply to you? The spawn system is balanced because if applies to everyone equally. You may argue it has it's problems but it's balanced and it isn't out to get you.

  • 06.18.2007 8:51 AM PDT
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tombstone has the worst of any spawns on any map..............the spawns on this map are just terrible. Especially when the game type is team snipers.
Collosous was taken out of team snipers cos of terrible spawning system and spawn killing. Now unless bungie sort out these ones out on this map, i can see tombstone also taking a long walk out of team snipers also.......................Bungie, get em sorted !!

  • 06.18.2007 8:57 AM PDT
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To those of you who complain about having bad spawn and getting pinned in such as on the banshee pad at ascension, i know that you might think this is a really dumb strategy. But when i play dbls with my cousin our strategy to get out of those tough positions is to sacrifice a couple points and both commit suicide. Now think about it guys, you may lose to points to your total score, but you get out of that pinnede positions where you will almost certainly be spawned killed. Also, many times it spawns you in a position to easily take down your opponents from behind. Try it sometime and you'll see what i mean, cuz giving up a few of your points is better than giving the opponent several easy spawn kills.

  • 06.18.2007 12:38 PM PDT
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one time i was playing BTB on Lockout and i spawn at sniper tower side where the red team was and I was blue. 8 against 1 at the start and all my teammates were all at the floor below elevator. Then there was a lag and i started meleeing opponents five or six times while they were standing still because of lag and nothing happened to them. I threw alot of grenades and shooting didn't work. Then after all that i got blue screened and then came back and all of the red team ran straight at me. Then ended up in the bottom middle floor and i crouched camped wait for other team to walk through and saw someone and I had plasma rifle and smg and dropped rifle to throw 2 grenades and then started shooting at opponent and their sheild didn't even go down. None of my teammates were near to help and in the end about half way through the game more than half of my teammates left. I was by myself and the red team was murdering me cuz i kept spawn on the bottom middle floor. below the glass in the middle.

[Edited on 07.04.2007 4:28 PM PDT]

  • 06.18.2007 3:17 PM PDT
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Most of the time on lockout I always spawn next to the opponent when my teammates are completely somewhere else. I don't know how spawns work but if they are random then they need to be fix to be near teammates to help them and prevent from being double, triple, or etc. teamed.

  • 07.04.2007 4:31 PM PDT
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I was playing swat FFA on headlong and someone spawn 13 times in a row in the same place with his head right in my aimy thing so i got 13 kills in a row without having to move. It was awesome for me but you know the spawn have to be -blam!- up for that to happen.

  • 07.04.2007 5:18 PM PDT

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