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I was caught in the moment, sorry.

  • 06.19.2007 8:53 PM PDT
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i don't think anyone can compare the bugs and glitches in halo 1 to halo 2, halo 1 is a lot worse. But its still a better game =D

  • 06.20.2007 2:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: AfroMan117
Both HPC and H2V were/are TERRIBLE ports, but I'm sorry, HPC was worse. 5 foot leads FTL.


LMFAO.

1) Your internet is freakin' horrible if you had to lead more than 1 inch.

2) Oh I'm sorry, are you one of those whiners in HPC, that gets frustrated that none of your shots hit, then leaves?
ex: "0mfg u hckers i swe@r. an i hit u li3k 50 tiem5 but thayi n3vr hiit??11
It's not that hard to determine where to lead by using your ping, your experience, and hell, even by shooting-and-praying. If you can't handle lag, you belong in the Xbox Live community, where everything is user-friendly, easy as hell to win.

  • 06.20.2007 3:57 AM PDT
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Posted by: lpjuunin
If you can't handle lag, you belong in the Xbox Live community, where everything is user-friendly, easy as hell to win.


Except the users, so I am told...

  • 06.20.2007 5:37 AM PDT
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Posted by: lpjuunin
If you can't handle lag, you belong in the Xbox Live community, where everything is user-friendly, easy as hell to win.


Except the users, so I am told...


rofl. xD

  • 06.20.2007 6:52 AM PDT
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Posted by: cRaNk3d
i don't think anyone can compare the bugs and glitches in halo 1 to halo 2, halo 1 is a lot worse. But its still a better game =D

Incorrect. That is, you're incorrect about Halo 1 having more bugs and glitches.

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  • 06.20.2007 9:06 AM PDT
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Both Halo: Combat Evolved and Halo 2 Vista are bad ports. However, the arguement that "Well H2V may be a bad port but Halo 1 was too" is a very poor one. If they completely butchered the first port, the second one shouldn't be bad aswell, it should be done good.

Arguing that they both are made poorly is laughable, all you guys are forgetting, NEITHER should have been bad.

  • 06.20.2007 12:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: Demon Seraph
Both Halo: Combat Evolved and Halo 2 Vista are bad ports. However, the arguement that "Well H2V may be a bad port but Halo 1 was too" is a very poor one. If they completely butchered the first port, the second one shouldn't be bad aswell, it should be done good.

Arguing that they both are made poorly is laughable, all you guys are forgetting, NEITHER should have been bad.
Wait, so you're arguing about us arguing over game that should have been better but instead they're both crappy and which one is the worse port?

Isn't that the purpose of this argument?

  • 06.20.2007 4:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Posted by: McKeegan_WRX
I agree with the OP. I had a GeForce 4 TI 4200 when HPC came out. While being a decent card, I had to run HPC on low settings to get decent FPS. This was something that annoyed me to no end. It wasn't until I got my 9600 XT that I could bump up the graphics on HPC. My laptop runs H2V better now (7900 Go GS)on medium/medium-high settings than my desktop ran HPC on low settings. The optimization is better, it just can't be argued.

Posted by: Zeph
4. If there were team killers in Halo 1, you should have kicked them. You cant kick people in H2V since there is no console.
At least now when people betray you, you have an option to boot them from the game. Also, there wasn't any way to boot TKers on public servers. People playing on the Bungie or Halo servers had no way of booting TKers.



I agree with Mckeegan completely. To this day computers have trouble running Halo PC.

Posted by: McKeegan_WRX
1. Terribly optimized? I fail to see how minimum requirements being dropped down so PCs with hardware producing less equivilent yields than an xbox means it's terribly optimized. You fail to realize that at the time, Halo PC was next-generation. Pixel Shader 2.0, resolutions damned well higher than 480i, and running through an operating system brought the requirements slightly higher than a console at the time. If the game wasn't optimized, anything less than a PS 2.0 card wouldn't have even been able to run the game.


The best part about this was that the fact that even with PS 2.0, it didnt look any better than the xbox version. H2V has the same advantages IE higher resolutions and it looks quite a bit better.

Now go back to the original xbox version, remember Bungie said that the xbox was having trouble running the game as it wasnt nearly as powerful as Bungie coded the engine to be. Halo on the other hand ran much better. I would hope that the port of halo pc would need less requirements.

  • 06.20.2007 4:55 PM PDT
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HPC looks way better than Halo Xbox. What lenses have you been looking at it through?

Also, any system that has problems running HPC is:
1) Not capable of running H2PC
2) Very old
3) Should be upgraded

  • 06.20.2007 5:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

What lenses? Halo PC lacks many detailed shaders, thats what makes the game that much better looking.

  • 06.20.2007 5:26 PM PDT
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Dididi!

  • 06.20.2007 5:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: Btcc22
HPC looks way better than Halo Xbox. What lenses have you been looking at it through?

Also, any system that has problems running HPC is:
1) Not capable of running H2PC
2) Very old
3) Should be upgraded


Yes but H1PC was released aaages ago. H2V has only just released, so to fairly compare the two in terms of being the worst port, you must take note of the hardware around the time H1PC was released.

  • 06.20.2007 6:21 PM PDT
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I enjoy halo 2 vista! Im sure its a challange for kb/m users to kill pad users I do it all the time. Its either I have talent and sponsorship and play with the best css players in the world.

Or im bad because I use a pad?
Frankly I use both and you should all stop whining about this release......

I am guessing everyone here wanted this game to come to computer, or its what bungie thought right? or wrong?!

Either way its a good game on pc or xbox who gives a toss about omg my graphics card can't handle it buy a new one for god sake a computer you know?
They don't cost alot for $1200 for an adaptible computer dear god!!!!!

Enjoy it because after halo 3 bungie will be a memory because the only game bungie have made is gnop and halo's for linux,mac, xbox,windows xp and now vista with cross-platform.

To be honist you can't leave the best title on original xbox for live services out of the windows live services can you? I don't think microsoft or even bungie studio's are that stupid!! At the end of the day the companies do this for money and your entertainment but your putting the money in their pockets!

Think every time you post you make this site more money giving bungie more $$$$ making there site more expensive everytime you click with the traffic ect..... This site is worth a BLAM! load! of $$$$


I think H2V could of had improvements but the fact is patch's come along and you can all play later on......... everyone had high expectation's for halo 2 vista I was one of them!

Bungie found that because halo 2 was orginally an "xbox" Game cross platform they said will happen! but then it never happened because bungie didn't think of the cross-platform inplications and problems it would cause because the game was not developed around the 360 it was emulated and you think your hard done by?

The HALO 2 port to 360 is crap!

They release new content as well for xbox fan's not for windows vista?
Im sure they will add them at a later date but thats besides the point im trying to point out.


Halo 2 was not designed around the 360 console and the engine was not engineer'd for crossplatform gaming so it would of been a real BLAM! to sort years from now because they would have to ship out halo 2 360 edition or something rediculious!

OUR NEW TITLE SUPPORTS CROSS-PLATFORM GAMING another "$50" out of your wallet!

So cross-platform would of never works and if it did it would take too much time besides halo 3 is coming out!

This halo 2 vista was a test for achivements no? see if it works on there servers ? Yes? of course it is!!

Anyway just let it take time and anyway aimbot's for pads is not strictly true due to the fact I can use both effectively! none work better than the other I just can distingush the difference because death is easily overdue by teamwork..



Anyway...........
Its here and im sure you all moaning won't effect bungie the slightest since they won't go bankrup'd because your not buying H2V cus I didn't buy it I get my software free because my family pay for it blargh ect like they do.....................

SOFTWARE since the map editior's someone could make a good copy of highgrounds modifiy physics make spike grenades.

Im sure some brainbox could figure out how to spike instead of stick with different sound effects.

I think the earth map is quite good for 1v1's truely amazing actualy I like both Xbox and Vista because


Dispite all the BLAM! playing all the spamming idiot's and bad hosts its fun with the right crowd and you have a laugh being very civil, using a capture card to do fun things by intention or accident! Some sword lunged today on my team I seen him lunge down p1 and he went through p1? I wish I had captured it! It was mental he said outa all the time I played midship that sword BLAM! is the worst bullBLAM! I have ever had on midship and halo 2 "xbox"


Vista version gives me points to my gamerscore easy ones! Im not gunna lie I like achivements but I only have "1845" For gamerscore it shows up you play "halo 2 vista" People ask me im like yea I do!
Its fun realy if you see how many bk's are on it since you can noscope so well with kb/m across map since I am a pro css player it makes no odds but awp'in halo 2 vista shooting noscopes.


Thats my intoll roll over halo 2 xbox flaws ect and reasons to accept it to be fun! even on port standards.

thats my case out of the way leave it or deal with it and have fun.


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  • 06.20.2007 6:47 PM PDT
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Well I'll tell you some things about the map editor, you can't add any models besides the levels bsp. You can't modify physics, or create physics for other objects. People were planning on Making Halo 3 for H2V but we can't because we got a "Map Editor" that can only make freaking maps. We also have no rcon so dedicated servers are screwed. Also don't compare CS: S to H2V, CS: S is way better. It is a decent port but vista makes it a crappy one, you need at least 2 GB of RAM or it just will eat your computer alive. Because of how limited the H2V editing kit is, CMT and Evolution aren't going to use it. Evolution is moving to the source engine. CMT can't do -blam!- in it because they need their weapons for their maps to play right. H2V is just not as good as it should be, they could just get rid of achievements on custom maps then we could have all our old features back.

Xfire >>>> WIndows Live
Screw achivement points, I want to play custom maps with friends with custom scripts and actually be able to make different -blam!- gravity lifts, or at least a freaking working gravity lift tag. High Ground with out the Spartan Laser, equipment, mongoose, and a good shotgun is not High Ground. It messes up all the gameplay, heck H2V won't even let you use the .ass plugin in 3ds Max 9. We can't add in freaking gates either. So you keep playing H2V I'll keep playing Halo: CE.
P.S.
Halo 3 > Halo 1 and Halo 2
P.S.S.
Tremulous(a free, standalone game based on the Doom 3 engine) is way better then Halo 2 in the need of team work. Think of it as CS: S with out defusable bombs and terroist are aliens from space..... actually scratch that, its nothing like CS: S.

  • 06.20.2007 8:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: ART1LL3RY
"Map Editor" that can only make freaking maps.


Lol.... that is just.. hella perfect.

  • 06.21.2007 4:14 PM PDT

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