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Subject: OK, enough is enough...XP Reconfiguration
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Posted by: link1264
...Ok, let me put it another way

If you are a good enough player to go into slayer and go positive every game, then you are a good enough player to assist your lesser skilled teammates by calling out positions, watching their backs, and supporting them. Just because you, for who knows what reason, choose to go into MM alone doesn't mean that you aren't responsible for your teammates. Don't just go about your own business and expect them to keep up with you. Help them to help yourself.
What if your teammates don't listen, surely you have had games when you have gotten 20+ kills and have lost because some kid keeps rushing in and getting killed when you tell him not to!

  • 06.19.2007 3:28 PM PDT
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Hmmm...someone's a little angsty. Relax. It's just level. It's not like it actually means anything.

I don't care if you go 49-0, if you lose, that's it. Period. Bungie is not going to reconfigure their entire ranking system just to please people like you.

  • 06.19.2007 3:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: I ToXiC ChAoS I
Posted by: link1264
...Ok, let me put it another way

If you are a good enough player to go into slayer and go positive every game, then you are a good enough player to assist your lesser skilled teammates by calling out positions, watching their backs, and supporting them. Just because you, for who knows what reason, choose to go into MM alone doesn't mean that you aren't responsible for your teammates. Don't just go about your own business and expect them to keep up with you. Help them to help yourself.
What if your teammates don't listen, surely you have had games when you have gotten 20+ kills and have lost because some kid keeps rushing in and getting killed when you tell him not to!


Yeah. I've been there. It sucks, I know. But I don't let that get to me. Just do whatever you can to help your team and if it's not enough then forget about it.

  • 06.19.2007 3:32 PM PDT
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If you don't feel that your skill level should improve if you play better then everyone else then something is wrong with you.

  • 06.19.2007 3:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: I ToXiC ChAoS I
I hate to probably get blacklisted but, kid shut up your a retard. I have given multiple reasons why my idea is right and your just a stubborn -blam!-. Kid, your either a five year old that cannot realize he is wrong, or your an idiotic kid who gives posts without reading anything.

Ok now you just resort to name calling.You are wrong. You are the one who doent know hes wrong. Your being ignorant. You are trying to change the xp system that works for everone else because you think you should have a higher rank. You are playing a TEAM event without a team. Your team in those situations is losing. Why do you think you should be able to rank up in the said playlist when your team isnt winning? You havent given any reasons why your "right" just that you want a prize for second place.

Edit: I also "reread" your first post. You dont give any reasons, you just push the blame to your teammates. I am going to say this again just incase you missed it.

If your having trouble in a team playlist put together a team before entering it. I am not telling you to only play with a team. I am telling you that if you dont enter with a team be prepared for the consequences. I NEVER have delevelers or quiters on my team because i put together my team first.

[Edited on 06.19.2007 3:38 PM PDT]

  • 06.19.2007 3:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: supavillainaire
Posted by: I ToXiC ChAoS I
I hate to probably get blacklisted but, kid shut up your a retard. I have given multiple reasons why my idea is right and your just a stubborn -blam!-. Kid, your either a five year old that cannot realize he is wrong, or your an idiotic kid who gives posts without reading anything.

Ok now you just resort to name calling.You are wrong. You are the one who doent know hes wrong. Your being ignorant. You are trying to change the xp system that works for everone else because you think you should have a higher rank. You are playing a TEAM event without a team. Your team in those situations is losing. Why do you think you should be able to rank up in the said playlist when your team isnt winning? You havent given any reasons why your "right" just that you want a prize for second place.

You don't digest what you read, I have given reasons why you should get XP for losing and still playing great. It does not work for everyone else. It does not change the whole system, but it improves it. Have you read my first post, honestly?

[Edited on 06.19.2007 3:37 PM PDT]

  • 06.19.2007 3:36 PM PDT
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Quote directly form your first post why it needs to be changed? There is not one sigle why, except where you blame teammates. Build a team before entering a team playlist.

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Teammates is the reason. Also I am not only goning to play when my team is on, what sense does that make?

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I do notice some thing though. You are proud to announce that all your losses are because of your teammates, you never place below fifth, and you thing loser award should got to fifth place only. You are only trying to "fix" this to make things easier for your self, not the losing team. You cant even think in teams when talking about teams. Your being very selfish and only want things to be easier for you, regardless the outcome for everyone else.

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Posted by: I ToXiC ChAoS I
Teammates is the reason. Also I am not only goning to play when my team is on, what sense does that make?

Thank you. You justified every post I have made. You prove my point correct with just this one post.
There are other playlists to play and unranked when you dont want to play with a team. Dont complain about ranked formats when you choose to play them by yourself vs people who play as a team.

  • 06.19.2007 3:49 PM PDT
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Yes this is based on personal experience, and I changed it to fifth because people said too many losers should not be rewarded; in more words. Stop trying to find faults in this/me. That is stupid and selfish, you have not made one suggestion. Also how can you talk when you have not played an xbox live game since October.

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I have made suggestions in almost every post ive made...look back.
Build a team of players so you dont have to worry about delevelers or quitters. Easy as that.
Also I have a specific account i play most multiplayer xbl on. I found that people like to leave neg feedback on good players and perfer bad ones and i dont like what that does to ones rep.

  • 06.19.2007 4:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: supavillainaire
Posted by: I ToXiC ChAoS I
Teammates is the reason. Also I am not only goning to play when my team is on, what sense does that make?

Thank you. You justified every post I have made. You prove my point correct with just this one post.
There are other playlists to play and unranked when you dont want to play with a team. Dont complain about ranked formats when you choose to play them by yourself vs people who play as a team.

If you play better then everyone else then why should your skill level not be raised! You still think I say to give the fifth place player a win, I am not. READ and READ again.

  • 06.19.2007 4:03 PM PDT
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You can join alone, why not accomadate for the solo joiners. It is a skill level, not a win/loss representation.

Wouldn't want you to be too prefered now would we.
Posted by: supavillainaire
I have made suggestions in almost every post ive made...look back.
Build a team of players so you dont have to worry about delevelers or quitters. Easy as that.
Also I have a specific account i play most multiplayer xbl on. I found that people like to leave neg feedback on good players and perfer bad ones and i dont like what that does to ones rep.


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  • 06.19.2007 4:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: I ToXiC ChAoS I
You can join alone, why not accomadate for the solo joiners. It is a skill level, not a win/loss representation.

Wouldn't want you to be too prefered now would we.
Posted by: supavillainaire
I have made suggestions in almost every post ive made...look back.
Build a team of players so you dont have to worry about delevelers or quitters. Easy as that.
Also I have a specific account i play most multiplayer xbl on. I found that people like to leave neg feedback on good players and perfer bad ones and i dont like what that does to ones rep.

Why do you keep having to resort to insults?
I look at it like this. Sure you can choose to join alone, but why when you know the cons are greater than the pros. You enter that playlist alone by choice. You have decided that whatever random teammates you get will be sufficent for the match. You are entering a Team format against other who decide a full team is a better choice. You made your choice. You could be playing unranked by your self but you didnt. As far as "skill" goes, skill is not equivilent to rank. Rank is earned in halo2 by winning. Your numerical rank is a representation of your win/loss ratio. What levels you win at, how often you win in a row, ect. Skill is a subjective term and means something different to everyone.

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Posted by: supavillainaire
Posted by: I ToXiC ChAoS I
You can join alone, why not accomadate for the solo joiners. It is a skill level, not a win/loss representation.

Wouldn't want you to be too prefered now would we.
Posted by: supavillainaire
I have made suggestions in almost every post ive made...look back.
Build a team of players so you dont have to worry about delevelers or quitters. Easy as that.
Also I have a specific account i play most multiplayer xbl on. I found that people like to leave neg feedback on good players and perfer bad ones and i dont like what that does to ones rep.

Why do you keep having to resort to insults?
I look at it like this. Sure you can choose to join alone, but why when you know the cons are greater than the pros. You enter that playlist alone by choice. You have decided that whatever random teammates you get will be sufficent for the match. You are entering a Team format against other who decide a full team is a better choice. You made your choice. You could be playing unranked by your self but you didnt. As far as "skill" goes, skill is not equivilent to rank. Rank is earned in halo2 by winning. Your numerical rank is a representation of your win/loss ratio. What levels you win at, how often you win in a row, ect. Skill is a subjective term and means something different to everyone.
Why are the cons greater than the pros? I don't like unranked! Rank is a representation of skill. "Your numerical rank is a representation of your win/loss ratio", you could have 2000000000 losses and 200 wins and be a 50.

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  • 06.19.2007 8:26 PM PDT
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I'm done arguing with you.

  • 06.20.2007 3:05 PM PDT
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If I'm not mistaken I believe they call them levels on Halo 2 itself.
I am aware "ranks" are the common term but level is more proper in my opinion.

  • 06.20.2007 3:49 PM PDT

RIP Halo 2.

No, this a team game. You win as a team; you lose as a team. If the best ranking player on the other team gets experience, players will be fighting amongst each other and stealing kills left and right. It'll make things worse.

So your teammates were terrible. Tough luck. Either deal with it or get a team to play with.

  • 06.20.2007 3:58 PM PDT
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aren't we all just a happy family

  • 06.20.2007 6:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: IIDWells55XII
No, this a team game. You win as a team; you lose as a team. If the best ranking player on the other team gets experience, players will be fighting amongst each other and stealing kills left and right. It'll make things worse.

So your teammates were terrible. Tough luck. Either deal with it or get a team to play with.

Levels, or ranks, are a representation of skill. Therefore if you do the best why shouldn't your skill go up. This would solve deranking too.

  • 06.20.2007 10:02 PM PDT
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Why should a representation of skill not go up if you played well?

  • 06.22.2007 2:59 PM PDT

Chillin' without a crush

Posted by: I ToXiC ChAoS I
If you don't feel that your skill level should improve if you play better then everyone else then something is wrong with you.

Posted by: I ToXiC ChAoS I
What a jerk, go to hell. ^I^


Also, you're an idiot.

  • 06.22.2007 3:20 PM PDT
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Nothing is true. Everything is permitted.

yes i see the problem ur having is really frustrating you. But i have had games in where i leveled up after a lose, so i really dont see the problem.

  • 06.22.2007 10:10 PM PDT
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I doesn't matter if you go in by yourself. It is still called Team slayer. If your team loses, you lose right with them.

I think it sucks to, I am the strong link in a lot of games I lose, but I accept that I have to rely on three random people to help me. You should to, and not complain when those three random people don't do as well as you want.

  • 06.23.2007 4:23 AM PDT

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