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Subject: Disappearance of AR and Pistol
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Posted by: mithrandir1
look the pistol is being replaced by the battle rifle, and the ma5b is being replaced by the SMGs it only make sense that way

Whos this guy, leader of bungie? This does not look like speculation.

  • 05.30.2004 2:05 PM PDT
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I think the AR and Pistol need to make a comeback. As much as I have used them, they're family now. Give the AR a grenade launcher in place of the flashlight (making a flashlight there was a silly idea. If you're going to steal the basic idea for an OICW, you might as well actually implement all of it), a fresh coat of paint, a little spit-shine and whammo, you've got an old friend and unique weapon. As for the pistol, explosive rounds should give it a special damage modifyer against unarmored skin and perhaps a bit less range. Bam, old pistol with a unique function.

Bring 'em back. We can't leave our friends behind after we've been through so much.

  • 05.30.2004 2:05 PM PDT
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Yea, I think they should just readjust them rather than remove them altogether.

  • 05.30.2004 2:16 PM PDT
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They're gone, get over it, play Halo if you get nestalgic.

  • 05.30.2004 2:17 PM PDT
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Listen they simply switched them whether you liked them or not you have to realise the pistol was more powerful then the AR this makes no sense shouldn't a persons secondary weapon be less powerful then their primary weapon so bungie said lets make a pistol thats automatic (SMG) and rifle with a scope that is single/burst shot. Then for the sake of balance they lowered the power of the AR because of the increased clip size as for the SMG that is probally about the same as the AR but now with dual wielding you can kill something without having to use the full clip. If there is a new pistol it would be the one from the books my question is what makes this pistol different then a shotgun. It is powerful and effective at close range I think they should have the pistol have a clip size of six and about the and be effective at about medium to short range about the same amount of accuracy as the original pistol only no scope. Alot of you are probally thinking realisticly why would a army do that well honestly people are pretty stupid so if you make the pistol look bad ass then people will think it is bad ass even if it is not as good as the original pistol.

  • 05.30.2004 2:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: Oppiten
They're gone, get over it, play Halo if you get nestalgic.

uhhhhh
no theyre not

  • 05.30.2004 2:18 PM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

yeah who made you the head of Bungie???

  • 05.30.2004 2:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: TheSpartan no117
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wait wait wait WAIT! When did someone from bungie say the pistol will not be back, where is everyone getting this -blam!- from?

theyre just making some bad assumptions....
there is no reason for them to remove the pistol


yea there is the battle rifle and the pistol shoot the same thing, y would bugnie have 2 wepons that shoot the same thing..............DER

  • 05.30.2004 2:22 PM PDT
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Do you think there will be the special weapons that the spartans use. i think breifly in 'the flood' it says how MC prefrerred his weapons rather than marines

  • 05.30.2004 2:23 PM PDT
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We'll they are gone, and when Halo 2 comes out, I will laugh at you.

  • 05.30.2004 2:23 PM PDT
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Actually, I will be happy if they trash the AR and the Pistol, they were kinda of an annoyance IMO.

  • 05.30.2004 2:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: Oppiten the poopoo-head
They're gone, get over it, play Halo if you get nestalgic.


Well I don't see any reason the weapons should be removed. A) logically, it would be next to impossible for the UNSC to rearm their entire fighting force with new weapons in such a short time, and the complete disappearance of the MA5B or the M6D in less than a year is just ridiculous. B) slight alterations would allow for greater variability in weapon choice and make each one functional in it's own place. C) Both of them are old homies. Do you ditch your old friends and find completely new ones each time you go up a grade? Didn't think so. Scipio + MA5B = BFF!

If I ever get nostalgic it should be from capping new enemies with an old friend. . . my assault rifle.

[Edited on 5/30/2004 2:27:00 PM]

  • 05.30.2004 2:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Scipio
Posted by: Oppiten the poopoo-head
They're gone, get over it, play Halo if you get nestalgic.


...If I ever get nostalgic it should be from capping new enemies with an old friend. . . my assault rifle.


You actually use the AR. Please don't tell me in multiplayer, single player is fine, but god man...

  • 05.30.2004 2:29 PM PDT
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No one uses the assault rifle in single player, unless of course they are set on something other than ledgendary. It's not a big loss at all.

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And when it comes to war I would ditch my old buddies for an upgrade plus rember this is the year 2552 you can probally transport guns over the internet or something I doubt it would be that hard to rearm the troops.

  • 05.30.2004 2:38 PM PDT
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Sniper Daive, you sell the AR too short, but talk like that is to be expected on forums where everybody thinks they have to impress strangers. Anyway, the assault rifle wasn't the best weapon in either, but it was a nice standby to have when you emptied your pistol's clip and haven't been able to get a rocket launcher or sniper rifle. At close range, or when the enemy has lost his shield the AR isn't all that bad. I have used it in multiplayer plenty of times sometimes with success, sometimes without. I've made it out of situations with my AR that I would have never been able to get through with a pistol. If I'm ambushed as I spawn at point blank, I'd rather have the faster melee and spray innacurate bullets than try to deal with somebody in my face with the pistol.

I know if that's all I said, you'd make some silly reply about how you never use the AR and always use the pistol, even in a melee situation. Listen, I don't care what you say you can do in Halo on an Internet forum because 1) you're probably lying 2) you're unimportant 3) you've probably never even seen a pro team play let alone play at their skill level

[Edited on 5/30/2004 2:46:00 PM]

  • 05.30.2004 2:43 PM PDT
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Scipio, you're not pro. Second, the AR does suck. My combo is ALWAYS the pistol and the plasma pistol, until I encounter the flood, then it is the pistol and the shotgun. But I have to adapt quite a bit, but I never pick up the AR, ever. As for what you said, yea....right...

  • 05.30.2004 2:46 PM PDT
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Someone has already said this but look:
Pistol=Battle Rifle in scope
AR=Battle Rifle not in scope

When it is in scope it acts as single-shot and more accurate, and not in scope it fires burst of 3. SMG is like the out of scope battle rifle, it fires faster, weaker and less accurate. For when you aren't close enough to use shotgun (which is only effective at very close range, and is pretty much single shot).

I know all this from IGN, what people said after actually PLAYING Halo 2, so don't even try to argue.

  • 05.30.2004 2:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: Scipio
Sniper Daive, you sell the AR too short, but talk like that is to be expected on forums where everybody thinks they have to impress strangers...


I agree, it is just fine in single player, I'm not knocking it there. But using it widespread in multiplayer is unforgiveable.

[Edited on 5/30/2004 2:49:42 PM]

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Bungie did say that ALL weapons will be making a return if anyone recalls....Have faith.

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Are you kidding me, the AR in close quarters is a great weapon in multiplayer. It is terrible in single player.

  • 05.30.2004 2:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cross_Check_1
Bungie did say that ALL weapons will be making a return if anyone recalls....Have faith.

No they diden't, I never saw them say that once.

  • 05.30.2004 2:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cross_Check_1
Bungie did say that ALL weapons will be making a return if anyone recalls....Have faith.


where and when did they say this?

  • 05.30.2004 2:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cross_Check_1
Bungie did say that ALL weapons will be making a return if anyone recalls....Have faith.


As you say have faith. So I'm going to have faith but if they DARE to take some of my weapons away in Halo 2 I'll kill them. So I'm going to wait and see what happands.

  • 05.30.2004 2:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: Oppiten
Are you kidding me, the AR in close quarters is a great weapon in multiplayer. It is terrible in single player.


Thats why I say widespread use is unforgivable. Every weapon in Halo is situational. No weapon always kicks ass, and no weapon is always worthless. The AR IN MY OPINION is only usefull in mass (about 6+ at once) or at very close range.

BTW, I do consider myself good, I play at rather large (10+ people) every week or so. I know what the hell I'm talking about.

  • 05.30.2004 2:55 PM PDT

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