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Subject: Disappearance of AR and Pistol
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I never said I used it widespread. I don't use any one weapon in every situation. You apply a weapon where it does best, don't use any one thing as a cure-all.

Oppiten, I really couldn't care less what you do or don't believe.You could think I'm an omniscient Vietnamese fisherman for all I care. Forum trolls are not my concern.

As for the rest of you who are just so 733t you can't believe it, just keep telling yourself you're unstoppable because you win a few games at local lan parties or get first place sometimes on HaloPC. Just keep telling yourself "he's just a n00b" because you think you're right in an argument on an internet forum.

[Edited on 5/30/2004 2:57:50 PM]

  • 05.30.2004 2:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: Oppiten
Posted by: Cross_Check_1
Bungie did say that ALL weapons will be making a return if anyone recalls....Have faith.

No they diden't, I never saw them say that once.


This was in the official xbox magazine from June 2003.

[Edited on 5/30/2004 2:56:52 PM]

  • 05.30.2004 2:56 PM PDT
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That's not what I am saying, your ability to put words in my mouth is amazing. Also, thinking that you know who I am is a big mistake, you have no clue if I have been in a tournament, or how good I am. I just know damn right well that the Assault Rifle is a crappy weapon. Now if you are going to take offense to anything else I have to say about the Assault Rifle, that's too bad for you.

  • 05.30.2004 2:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: Scipio
I never said I used it (The AR) widespread...


My bad, when you said you loved it, I assumed you meant you used it like most use the pistol.

  • 05.30.2004 2:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sniper Davie
Posted by: Scipio
I never said I used it (The AR) widespread...


My bad, when you said you loved it, I assumed you meant you used it like most use the pistol.


It's really not that critical. Scipio is thinking up a big profound response as we speak anyway. Besides, if you are good with the AR, more power to you.

  • 05.30.2004 3:01 PM PDT
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Yay who is stupid enough of to use the AR like a pistol? I know its my brother but that doesn't count.

  • 05.30.2004 3:03 PM PDT
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new AR/battle rifle in real life....see link below.

Singapore Technologies Kinetics SAR-21 assault rifle

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as31-e.htm

  • 05.30.2004 3:03 PM PDT
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SWEET! that is awsome. But I still hope that they do not take out the AR or the pistol.

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same, the pistol was hands down my fav weapon in Halo.

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How is it awsome, unlike the battle rifle, that is an actual physical, and all together terrifying weapon of war. I would -blam!- myself I was on the service end of that thing.

  • 05.30.2004 3:08 PM PDT
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The AR is out read the FAQs he says the BR is the new upgraded AR meaning it is gone pistol maybe not but I doubt it will come back either. I liked them both but I am ready to move on.

  • 05.30.2004 3:09 PM PDT
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Why would anyone even object to what is basically a 32 round pistol.

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Because you have to be zoomed for that to work. For me that is dumb because my killing sprees are with the pistol UNZOOMED. I have practiced for hours to do it and know that training is all for nothing? That is -blam-ing LAME!

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I think the assault rifle is bad for most situations, but its fun to use when you want to mow down enemies in campaign.

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im happy they were combined in to the battle rifle, and they're both gone (as far as i can see) because now the two best weapons are one super weapon...kinda like what the pistol was, so its still gonna KINDA be there, but it wont...least i hope it isnt it was way too powerful

  • 05.30.2004 3:22 PM PDT
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The AR was definatly one of the two best weapons, which were the pistol and the shotgun.

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The assault rifle isn't that bad of a weapon, it's major flaw draws from it's inconsistancy to hit the target. The pistol should be reworked, I use the pistol all the time and it is my favorite weapon in Halo; but we have to all be honest here, it is overpowered. Range, accuracy, and 3 hit kills. Everyone put your faith into bungie, I know they will do what is right and if they even do take it out, that might be room for another weapon ^^. With all the halo I have played I'll be glad to retire the most used weapon.

  • 05.30.2004 3:37 PM PDT
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the pistol (M6D) fires "12.7mm semi-armor-piercing high-explosive" rounds, or so says the manual..

  • 05.30.2004 4:03 PM PDT
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No pistol using the same ammunition as a rifle will be more accurate, nor more powerful then a rifle. It is not possible. Pistols are military sidearms, secondary weapons, because physics dictates it.

It's irritating when people assume otherwise without basis.

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dont forget about the new pistol in first strike its has a higher caliber and im probly forgeting other things about it too

  • 05.30.2004 4:13 PM PDT
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we're not talking about a normal pistol here. the design was completely new. so we have no way to tell if it could in fact perform better than/equel to any rifle.
id really like to see some American gunsmithin company or Heckler and Koch or something make a working replica/production model of the pistol from Halo. just to see. i know i'd buy one no matter what the price.

  • 05.30.2004 4:17 PM PDT
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*sighs* It's a simple matter of ballistics. The longer the barrel, the more the propulsive gases work upon the projectile before leaves the barrel, resulting in greater muzzle velocity. The longer the barrel, the more spin is causes by the threading in the barrel. This results in more power and greater accuracy given the same ammunition type.

A pistol cannot outperform a rifle using the same ammunition using current technology. This is why the U.S. army still uses M-16's as their primary weapon instead of just issuing them all Desert Eagles.

  • 05.30.2004 4:27 PM PDT

this basically sucks!

the pistol was eweryone's faivourite weapon (i think)
and the AR was good for doing dramatic shoot outs and dives

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I say we keep the pistol and the assault rifle but alter them to suit their purposes.

What I would like to see, since pistols are pathetic for long range shooting would be a .50 pistol solid round for penetration. I wouldn't bother with the explosive tips. Explosive tips would be next to useless against shields and armour.

For the Assault rifle I'd love to see the same weapon with a much larger clip capacity. Perhaps a helical cartridge up top, or a box clip down low. Give it a 120 rounds or more so that you can at least lay down some suppression fire. That's what it is meant for. To keep your enemies down and hold them back while you're comrades with the battle rifles finish them with precision fire.

  • 05.30.2004 4:42 PM PDT
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in the book first stike they get new part for the mjolnirthat included better sheild,better motiontrackers and a couple of others they also got new weapons including better pistols
with a thirtypercent barrel increase so there will be a pistol just not the one were used to!!


Read the Book And You might just get more informed
but for the latetest crap readfirst strike

  • 05.31.2004 12:12 AM PDT

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