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Well if there is one definition of an athlete then only one or two sports could contain athletes. Think about it.


I don't like to think =[

So answer this question please:

What sports are left out of this definition?

"A person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina"


Ok, none, however, gaming is included....

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you forgot control over mind(nerves), and intelligence for two huge ones mr. no such thing as a mental athlete. Obviously you've never seen a math team meet.

and why did everyone ignore my replies... or atleast laugh at how bad that navillus guy is at making an argument.

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Posted by: Ix ReX xI
Ok, none, however, gaming is included....


Do you find that controversial though?

I mean I can call myself an athlete, when I'm morbidly obese , because I play Halo 2?

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Posted by: Zach The One

and why did everyone ignore my replies....


umm I laughed when you said "nerd blood".

and probably because you are talking to navillus and since he's not here = no reply.

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if it's illegal then no, but fighting? come on man, why would you even bring up any sort of fighting as not being a sport. Try to think a little bro, it might cure your egotistical ignorance.

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Posted by: Sketto
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Ok, none, however, gaming is included....


Do you find that controversial though?

I mean I can call myself an athlete, when I'm morbidly obese , because I play Halo 2?


If your a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, agility, or stamina.

  • 06.26.2007 4:14 PM PDT

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Its Halo 2, its like professional checkers, wow a hl2 pro is good with over-reaching autoaim, tremendous bull-blam!- factors and seemingly uncorrected glitches , who cares. test his reflexes against a cal-i cs player and see who has skills. It wouldnt be even close.



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Ok, none, however, gaming is included....


Do you find that controversial though?

I mean I can call myself an athlete, when I'm morbidly obese , because I play Halo 2?


If your a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, agility, or stamina.


So a morbidly obese person can be called an athlete, under your "interpretation" of the definition.

I don't think that's right.

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Posted by: Zach The One
you forgot control over mind(nerves), and intelligence for two huge ones mr. no such thing as a mental athlete. Obviously you've never seen a math team meet.

and why did everyone ignore my replies... .


Your replies weren't ignored, they were really good. Pretty sensible arguments in there.

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Look at what MLG has done to this poor man! Oh Karma, if only you'd stayed away from this game....if only.....

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Posted by: metalmoses
Its Halo 2, its like professional checkers, wow a hl2 pro is good with autoaim, tremendous bull-blam!- factors and seemingly uncorrected glitches , who cares. test his reflexes against a cal-i cs player and see who has skills. It wouldnt be even close.



If it takes no skill, then why is it so entertaining, and has the same few teams competing for first every time. I mean, if you want $20,000 a tournament round up some of your local friends and go, I mean after all, if it takes no skill it shoulden't be hard to win...right...?

And Sketto

It's what the definition says, not my opinion. It's there in black and white, right in front of you, and a Pro Gamer meets the basic criteria in the definition.

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Ok, none, however, gaming is included....


Do you find that controversial though?

I mean I can call myself an athlete, when I'm morbidly obese , because I play Halo 2?


If your a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, agility, or stamina.


So a morbidly obese person can be called an athlete, under your "interpretation" of the definition.

I don't think that's right.


Aaron Gibson of the Chicago Bears is an athlete.......

390 BTW.

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Posted by: Ix ReX xI
It's what the definition says, not my opinion. It's there in black and white, right in front of you, and a Pro Gamer meets the basic criteria in the definition.


How does halo 2 require a person to have "physical strength, agility, or stamina" to play?

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Posted by: Sketto
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Ok, none, however, gaming is included....


Do you find that controversial though?

I mean I can call myself an athlete, when I'm morbidly obese , because I play Halo 2?


Well our perception of what an athlete is, is a direct descendant of what yesterday's preception of people playing yesterdays games. In 1930, did they have xboxes? No they went out and played games against eachother. They played football, basketball, boxed, golfed a little lol, and many other things that involved a physical game. No today we have electronics, we can creat virtual worlds for our entertainment to virtually push ourselves past our reality's limits. To run fast in a game you need to push a joystick forward, to run fast in real life you need to train your legs. All sports originated as games, and professional sports all originated from people being so good people would pay to watch people play. So whats the difference between the games, one's electronic? You still have to train your mind and your hands to be that good. When i started playing video games at 3 on my Nintendo, I obviously couldn't do what I do today. When i started playing halo CE, i definately couldn't do what i do now. In fact i'm constantly getting better, so i could compare any time in my past to now. Because i've been training myself to be better. And there's plenty of equipment issues in competetive gaming. Cleaning out your joysticks, getting the controller to calibrate between matches, having the right thumbsticks to fit your playstyle. I could probably think of more, but that's a decent summary for the moment. Also there's a bunch of shiz with TV's and Headphones, thats competetive equipment too.

So Yes a morbidly Obese man can still be an athlete, a professional one at that. Because he's trained his mind, not his body. And as far as I know the mind is classified as a muscle.

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Posted by: metalmoses
Its Halo 2, its like professional checkers, wow a hl2 pro is good with over-reaching autoaim, tremendous bull-blam!- factors and seemingly uncorrected glitches , who cares. test his reflexes against a cal-i cs player and see who has skills. It wouldnt be even close.



Obviously, in CS, the CS player would win, and in halo2, the Halo2 pro would win.



What did that prove?

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Posted by: Sketto
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It's what the definition says, not my opinion. It's there in black and white, right in front of you, and a Pro Gamer meets the basic criteria in the definition.


How does halo 2 require a person to have "physical strength, agility, or stamina" to play?


Reaction time and reflexes would fall under agility, and you definitely need stamina to play at a consistent level all day long.

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Posted by: Sketto
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It's what the definition says, not my opinion. It's there in black and white, right in front of you, and a Pro Gamer meets the basic criteria in the definition.


How does halo 2 require a person to have "physical strength, agility, or stamina" to play?


I'll let Zach....and my picture of After - Before of Karma answer that question...:D

And as Pandemic said, you have NO IDEA how hard it is to stay consistent for 72 hours with like 5 hours of sleep?...that takes a lot of stamina imo...

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Ok, none, however, gaming is included....


Do you find that controversial though?

I mean I can call myself an athlete, when I'm morbidly obese , because I play Halo 2?


If your a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, agility, or stamina.


So a morbidly obese person can be called an athlete, under your "interpretation" of the definition.

I don't think that's right.


So a fat person cannot be an athlete?

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The stamina part fer sure.

5K had to play 10 hours straight at Charlotte. You have to recognize that as stamina..........I don't know what else it could be.....

Oh, by 10 hours straight, there were breaks inbetween, but they were spent preparing for the next game.

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Posted by: metalmoses
Its Halo 2, its like professional checkers, wow a hl2 pro is good with over-reaching autoaim, tremendous bull-blam!- factors and seemingly uncorrected glitches , who cares. test his reflexes against a cal-i cs player and see who has skills. It wouldnt be even close.



Anyone smell that.... smells like sulfer and trolls.... I think it's coming from that buck toothed kid in the corner, someone should ask him to leave...

p.s. , please go hit your head on a brick wall until your a vegtable, you're obviously no use to the world when you think, so we might as well see how you are without the advanced mental processes. I'm sure you'd better serve the world doing something like an ice cream truck sales associate, or a crab grass sales man. Go get em tiger!

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Posted by: Zach The One
So Yes a morbidly Obese man can still be an athlete, a professional one at that. Because he's trained his mind, not his body. And as far as I know the mind is classified as a muscle.

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Your mind is an organ I don't think it's classified as a muscle. But I don't think that's integral to your argument.


I don't see how just because you get better at something the more you play/do it makes you an athlete.

Just making sure: you would consider chess players athletes, correct?

  • 06.26.2007 4:28 PM PDT

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i didnt say it takes no skill, there is professional checkers isn't there, but who really cares

If the improvements made in the beta carry through we might actually have a legit pro community with people that are actually good at video games.

Im just saying that a lot of mature, more skilled players are turned off by the horrid multiplayer experience of hl2 and go to other games that have much more established dominant pro circuits, like cal for example.


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Posted by: metalmoses
i didnt say it takes no skill, there is professional checkers isn't there, but who really cares

If the improvements made in the beta carry through we might actually have a legit pro community with people that are actually good at video games.

Im just saying that a lot of mature, more skilled players are turned off by the horrid multiplayer experience of hl2 and go to other games that have much more established dominant pro circuits, like cal for example.




Oh, so Halo2 isn't actually a LEGIT pro community? Wow.

CAL has halo2 though.....................

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Posted by: metalmoses
i didnt say it takes no skill, there is professional checkers isn't there, but who really cares

If the improvements made in the beta carry through we might actually have a legit pro community with people that are actually good at video games.

Im just saying that a lot of mature, more skilled players are turned off by the horrid multiplayer experience of hl2 and go to other games that have much more established dominant pro circuits, like cal for example.




If they have no skill, and they're not good enough then why do they have mansions from winnings they got from beating hundreds of other people...if it takes no skill I'd think there would be a huge variety in the top teams.

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So a fat person cannot be an athlete?


Depends on your definition of "fat" and "morbidly obese"

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