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I SO PRO BRING IT ON JIGGALOZ

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  • 06.26.2007 9:03 PM PDT

~moses~

nice use of google, yes cal has halo 2 but its really not that popular especially with the "talented mlg hl2" players .... im not denying that someone can be better at halo 2, im simply saying being pro is not saying much for a game thats so messed up.

I play hl2 and have tons of fun with my friends but in a competitive atmosphere it simply can not stand on its own against other games which have much more of a competitive playability. hl2's weapon balance issues and seemingly inconsistent gameplay testify to this. Im comparing cs and halo not in themselves, but in their balancing and aptitude for competitive play. Opinions which have also been repeated consistently from former halo1 lan communities.

I love halo but i think that halo2 is broken and being a pro at something thats broken is well......... /uninstall



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  • 06.26.2007 11:18 PM PDT

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There is a split between someone playing competetively versus someone playing casually. If i go out to play a freethrow game with somefriends while smoking cigars, or toss a football or frisbee around in the back yard then no im not really being an athlete. But once you jump onto a team and start pushing yourself to win then yes you've then become an athlete.

Once people realize that all "sports" are just games, then why can't a sport like video game such as halo be considered a sport? If school started having halo teams and competed against other schools, then it would be much easier for someone to consider it a sport.

1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.
3. diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime.
7. something treated lightly or tossed about like a plaything.

These are a couple of definitions taken from dictionary.com, what here doesn'y hint at a game. "Diversion" , "Recreation", "Pleasant Pastime". In the end all sports were created to fill our free time void. As long as it's played competetively then why can't it be a sport? And as long as it's played in front of large crouds and the top players get paid, what stops it from being a professional sport.

The split that occurs is not with the pro gamer and the ametuer, it's between the competetive and the casual. That's how the split occurs with all sports.

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  • 06.27.2007 6:18 AM PDT

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Posted by: Navillus13
Posted by: Zach The One
I must say you throughly convinced me to slam on my brakes and make a complete 180 from pro to anti-gaming. I mean you definately took into account my first hand experience that your ignorant ass has never been through, and then applied it to your point of view. I definately think of gaming as never ever for any reason being anything more than just for fun. I mean playing competetively for money? when has money ever put something to a level past recreation?

You want to reply like a little kid? then I'll talk to you like a little kid. Let me first show you what I wrote:
Playing Halo 2, whether for competition, for fun, or for money, is RECREATION no matter how you guys try to spin it. Just because a select few get a bonus for playing 8 hours a day, everyday, does not mean it constitutes as being a job.

That being said, you can do anything in the world for money.. does that make it a job? NO. I won $100 at the roulette table, does that mean its my job now? way to miss the point completely.

I dunno man, i mean obviously all landscaping is recreation because some people enjoy gardening and shaping their yards. Obviously being a chef is completely recreational because I enjoy cooking, even since I was 8! I mean if an 8 year old can cook, it must be a joke of a job for a 40 year old MAN to do it. AH HAHAHA, it's just laughable how now, because of your argument, I know see almost all middle class jobs as completely recreational. I don't know how I didn't see it before!!! Navillus, I present to you the Nobel Peace prize for single handedly, and permanently, ending this debate.

I forgot where I said anything enjoyable = recreation. Can you PLEASE quote it for me? Pretty please? Oh wait... that's right... you're a moron.

And for your information Navillus, who is obviously santa clause in disguise because he knows what everyone does all the time. I started working at 16 at a Junk Yard doing inventory and dealing with customers, then at an Auto Body doing prep and recon, I've done days with a septic friend of my family who pays out big for dealing with "poop", and I've done a whole "poop" load of carpentry. So overall Mr. Clause AKA (ha HAaAA! I knew santa was real!!!!) Navillus, I have worked many real jobs.

Thats also true.. right on the money. I know what everyone does! Holy crap what a discovery! And after working all those jobs, do you sit back and consider playing games a job? And tell the truth little boy.. because I obviously know who's naughty and who's nice.


You should probably take a step back from yourself and realize that I'm trying to inform you of the other side of the argument no one else here has been able to show. Your disregard for what I've posted acts as a crystal clear window, showing your stuborn ignorance and bias against gaming as a job. It is just as much work as most other jobs. You do not understand and choose not to accept it. Even when I've shown exactly what it takes to be pro, so you YOURSELF can make your own juxtaposition. You should probably just bow out of this discussion now before your pride drops below the suicide line.


So now I'm stubborn and ignorant because I don't consider playing a video game, whether in leagues or tournaments, a job? You might as well call society ignorant and stubborn then. Wake up and smell the coffee kid.

Oh I forgot... its just as much work as other jobs huh? you might as well start telling yourself the world is flat and believing it as well.


No scope headshoting Noobullus all day,
Zach


His true maturity level comes out! Thanks for wasting my time Zachery.




For someone who talks of maturity, you called us tards for giving you a point of view you never had and will never see. And i have no idea what you're trying to say for an argument other than. NO YOUR WRONG. NOPE YOUR WRONG TOO. YOU HAVE NO SAY IN THIS. YOUR WRONG AND A MORON. At what point are you going to make an argument Mr. Perfect working class american. I found my sarcasm very entertaining, and your constant belief that your just super for no apparent reason. I still don't know how old you are, what you have for a job, any credentials, you still havn't explained why playing halo2 professioanlly is only recreation after 15 pages of this argument, and who the FUDGE appointed you as the voice of the american public. Because unlike Linkin Park, you havn't gotten any awards that I know you're any sort of reproduction of the public's oppinion.

lol talking in sarcasm is childish while calling people tards and morons without even attempting to make an argument isnt. Yet another strong argument from the anti-Halo as a Job side of this debate. You guys should probably bench this guy.

  • 06.27.2007 6:35 AM PDT
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Posted by: Deceiver196_
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Ok, none, however, gaming is included....


Do you find that controversial though?

I mean I can call myself an athlete, when I'm morbidly obese , because I play Halo 2?


If your a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, agility, or stamina.


So a morbidly obese person can be called an athlete, under your "interpretation" of the definition.

I don't think that's right.


So a fat person cannot be an athlete?
If that is the case a few proffesional football players aren't athletes......

  • 06.27.2007 9:27 AM PDT
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-blam!- you all none of you are pros at anything except being -blam!- nerds

  • 06.27.2007 9:35 AM PDT

Posted by: Zach The One
For someone who talks of maturity, you called us tards for giving you a point of view you never had and will never see. And i have no idea what you're trying to say for an argument other than. NO YOUR WRONG. NOPE YOUR WRONG TOO. YOU HAVE NO SAY IN THIS. YOUR WRONG AND A MORON. At what point are you going to make an argument Mr. Perfect working class american. I found my sarcasm very entertaining, and your constant belief that your just super for no apparent reason. I still don't know how old you are, what you have for a job, any credentials, you still havn't explained why playing halo2 professioanlly is only recreation after 15 pages of this argument, and who the FUDGE appointed you as the voice of the american public. Because unlike Linkin Park, you havn't gotten any awards that I know you're any sort of reproduction of the public's oppinion.

lol talking in sarcasm is childish while calling people tards and morons without even attempting to make an argument isnt. Yet another strong argument from the anti-Halo as a Job side of this debate. You guys should probably bench this guy.


First off, I called YOU the tard, not everyone else, and since you can not add 2+2, I will spell everything out for you to easily interpret:

Why Playing Halo 2, or any other type of recreational game for money, is not a sport

By Webster definition, (dictionary.com is not a credible source) lets take a look at the 3 following words and then logically compare it to how the American (I cant speak for the British) society logically interprets these phrases: Sport, Athlete, Recreation.

Sport - I choose the only definition that really matters
1 a : a source of diversion : RECREATION b : -blam!- play c (1) : physical activity engaged in for pleasure (2) : a particular activity (as an athletic game) so engaged in.

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Recreation -
: refreshment of strength and spirits after work; also : a means of refreshment or diversion : HOBBY

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Athlete -
: a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina

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Now lets be honest here, according to the definition of 'Sport', according to the dictionary, playing video games whether for competition or not, falls under the category of being a sport. By that SAME definition, so does whacking off, taking a dump, swinging from trees... etc etc. We all know how the American society sees things, if some people cant grasp it, then you honestly have to be blind. You can't deny societies effect on everything around us, can you? Do you guys think society sees professional gaming as a 'Sport'? I.e. This means you should be able to take a 10,000 person random survey, and more than 50% of the people would say yes, it is a sport. Hypothetically, I just don't see that happening.

If a doctor explains to you that you need to go out more, be more active, and play some sports, is the first thing that pops in your head "I do play sports Doc, I play Halo 2 all the time"? I am providing you guys with an unbiased opinion right now. Take a step back and look at this how the world looks at it.

Now onto Athlete. Is it possible that a Halo 2 gamer is an athlete solely because he plays Halo 2? According to me - No. According to society - probably not. Can you deny that? Can a Halo 2 player ALSO be an athlete? OF course they can! The offensive line for the Arizona Cardinals play all the time (maybe they should concentrate more on their blocking skills though since they are terrible). Playing Halo 2, playing cards, playing board games, taking a dump, whacking off - these are all non-athletic activities. Would you agree that the general public agrees with this? I think its undeniable.

Now for my personal opinion, being someone who's played all different kinds of sports, for competition, money, for fun, I think it can be broken down thusly:
Sports: football, basketball, soccer, baseball, hockey, volleyball, tennis, water polo, track & field, any type of racing (not with cars) and a few others which slip my mind right now.
Recreation: Playing poker, darts, pool, playing video games, bowling, golf, (NASCAR is a tossup and think it should get its own category, anything that involves life threats should have its own category)


Now I think society as a whole, may include golf in either, or nascar in either... but the rest I think we can agree on (if we were all of society) right?

Why Playing Halo 2, or any other type of recreational game for money, is not work or a job

Now lets start off by saying this... If these select elite MLG guys are being paid to show up at conventions, train other people, speak at conferences, all for a paycheck.. then yes it is a job. The actual playing of Halo 2, is not, because they are not just getting paid to play halo 2. Agree?
Winning tournaments is not a job, winning money in competitions is not a job. If this was true, then almost everyone in Vegas would be considered 'working' at their 'job'.

Is it hard work? not in the slightest. Why?

My opinion: Doctors, construction workers, bankers, IT consultants, lawyers, mcdonald's employees, janitors, professional athletes (from the sports category above) all work hard. You cannot combine the mental exhaustion of being a halo 2 player to that of a doctor, banker, or IT consultant. They've gone through years and years of schooling, anxiety, work pressure, deadlines etc etc... things of which a Halo 2 player will never have to endure. Construction workers, pro atheletes, (mcdonalds, janitors on a lesser level) must have extreme physical endurance to do the same thing everyday, 8 hours a day, 300 days a year. Ask any one of them if playing Halo 2 is hard work. You guys have said it yourselves, when these guys are done playing, they will concentrate on a career. If Halo 2 is a job and hard work, and they are good at it, then why don't they just do that forever?


Even though I know I can't speak for society as a whole, I believe we can all agree on the general interpretation of what people would view MLG as being. We can't be that naive... can we?

*Side note, I just threw all my thoughts out here as quickly as possible, if you see flaws in my argument, please point them out and I will respond. I was typing this up and attempting to work at the same time*

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Posted by: Navillus13
Posted by: Zach The One
For someone who talks of maturity, you called us tards for giving you a point of view you never had and will never see. And i have no idea what you're trying to say for an argument other than. NO YOUR WRONG. NOPE YOUR WRONG TOO. YOU HAVE NO SAY IN THIS. YOUR WRONG AND A MORON. At what point are you going to make an argument Mr. Perfect working class american. I found my sarcasm very entertaining, and your constant belief that your just super for no apparent reason. I still don't know how old you are, what you have for a job, any credentials, you still havn't explained why playing halo2 professioanlly is only recreation after 15 pages of this argument, and who the FUDGE appointed you as the voice of the american public. Because unlike Linkin Park, you havn't gotten any awards that I know you're any sort of reproduction of the public's oppinion.

lol talking in sarcasm is childish while calling people tards and morons without even attempting to make an argument isnt. Yet another strong argument from the anti-Halo as a Job side of this debate. You guys should probably bench this guy.


First off, I called YOU the tard, not everyone else, and since you can not add 2+2, I will spell everything out for you to easily interpret:

Why Playing Halo 2, or any other type of recreational game for money, is not a sport

By Webster definition, (dictionary.com is not a credible source) lets take a look at the 3 following words and then logically compare it to how the American (I cant speak for the British) society logically interprets these phrases: Sport, Athlete, Recreation.

Sport - I choose the only definition that really matters
1 a : a source of diversion : RECREATION b : -blam!- play c (1) : physical activity engaged in for pleasure (2) : a particular activity (as an athletic game) so engaged in.

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Recreation -
: refreshment of strength and spirits after work; also : a means of refreshment or diversion : HOBBY

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Athlete -
: a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina

---------------------------------

Now lets be honest here, according to the definition of 'Sport', according to the dictionary, playing video games whether for competition or not, falls under the category of being a sport. By that SAME definition, so does whacking off, taking a dump, swinging from trees... etc etc. We all know how the American society sees things, if some people cant grasp it, then you honestly have to be blind. You can't deny societies effect on everything around us, can you? Do you guys think society sees professional gaming as a 'Sport'? I.e. This means you should be able to take a 10,000 person random survey, and more than 50% of the people would say yes, it is a sport. Hypothetically, I just don't see that happening.

If a doctor explains to you that you need to go out more, be more active, and play some sports, is the first thing that pops in your head "I do play sports Doc, I play Halo 2 all the time"? I am providing you guys with an unbiased opinion right now. Take a step back and look at this how the world looks at it.

Now onto Athlete. Is it possible that a Halo 2 gamer is an athlete solely because he plays Halo 2? According to me - No. According to society - probably not. Can you deny that? Can a Halo 2 player ALSO be an athlete? OF course they can! The offensive line for the Arizona Cardinals play all the time (maybe they should concentrate more on their blocking skills though since they are terrible). Playing Halo 2, playing cards, playing board games, taking a dump, whacking off - these are all non-athletic activities. Would you agree that the general public agrees with this? I think its undeniable.

Now for my personal opinion, being someone who's played all different kinds of sports, for competition, money, for fun, I think it can be broken down thusly:
Sports: football, basketball, soccer, baseball, hockey, volleyball, tennis, water polo, track & field, any type of racing (not with cars) and a few others which slip my mind right now.
Recreation: Playing poker, darts, pool, playing video games, bowling, golf, (NASCAR is a tossup and think it should get its own category, anything that involves life threats should have its own category)


Now I think society as a whole, may include golf in either, or nascar in either... but the rest I think we can agree on (if we were all of society) right?

Why Playing Halo 2, or any other type of recreational game for money, is not work or a job

Now lets start off by saying this... If these select elite MLG guys are being paid to show up at conventions, train other people, speak at conferences, all for a paycheck.. then yes it is a job. The actual playing of Halo 2, is not, because they are not just getting paid to play halo 2. Agree?
Winning tournaments is not a job, winning money in competitions is not a job. If this was true, then almost everyone in Vegas would be considered 'working' at their 'job'.

Is it hard work? not in the slightest. Why?

My opinion: Doctors, construction workers, bankers, IT consultants, lawyers, mcdonald's employees, janitors, professional athletes (from the sports category above) all work hard. You cannot combine the mental exhaustion of being a halo 2 player to that of a doctor, banker, or IT consultant. They've gone through years and years of schooling, anxiety, work pressure, deadlines etc etc... things of which a Halo 2 player will never have to endure. Construction workers, pro atheletes, (mcdonalds, janitors on a lesser level) must have extreme physical endurance to do the same thing everyday, 8 hours a day, 300 days a year. Ask any one of them if playing Halo 2 is hard work. You guys have said it yourselves, when these guys are done playing, they will concentrate on a career. If Halo 2 is a job and hard work, and they are good at it, then why don't they just do that forever?


Even though I know I can't speak for society as a whole, I believe we can all agree on the general interpretation of what people would view MLG as being. We can't be that naive... can we?

*Side note, I just threw all my thoughts out here as quickly as possible, if you see flaws in my argument, please point them out and I will respond. I was typing this up and attempting to work at the same time*



And I stand corrected,you've gotta a nerd if you'd take that much time typing a websters dictionary definition of MLG....

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Now I'm not getting back into this arguement, I will just state the gametypes and maps that are played at MLG. So there wont be any sniper whoring on Ascention ;).

Open Bracket
CTF Classic - Midship
CTF Classic - Warlock
Team Ball - Midship
Team Slayer - Beaver Creek
Team Slayer - Lockout
Team Slayer - Midship
Team Slayer - Warlock

Championship Bracket
CTF Classic - Midship
CTF Classic - Sanctuary
CTF Classic - Warlock
Neutral Bomb - Midship
Team Ball - Lockout
Team Ball - Midship
Team Slayer - Beaver Creek
Team Slayer - Lockout
Team Slayer - Midship
Team Slayer - Sanctuary
Team Slayer – Warlock

Now, look at those. Every single one of those games is fair. If you have the right settings either team can win, it is not a messed up game. And before you say "YEA BUT WHAT ABOUT AUTO AIM AND..." ......no.... everyone has all of these advantages, not making them advantages.

EDIT: And HarlemPitt, your a nerd if you come of forums calling people nerds.

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No not really i come on these forums to see if anybody has anything interesting to say and all i read is ima MLG pro blah blah blah blah blah blah screw you're damn mlg playtypes geek go strap up and get in some ugly fat chicks pants dum ass

  • 06.27.2007 10:00 AM PDT

GTNukem v3

GTNukem v2

GTNukem

"Well I think the thread creator is stupid... plus he's fat and his mom rocks out on my weiner"

I've heard most pros are stuck up s.o.b.'s. I try not to play with them since they spend the whole game fillin the game with crap about how good they are.

  • 06.27.2007 10:21 AM PDT

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Kevin's post = breath of fresh air.
Take it from this guy people, he knows what he's talking about.

Second accounts are NOT cheating:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=13824

Posted by: Navillus13
Posted by: Zach The One
For someone who talks of maturity, you called us tards for giving you a point of view you never had and will never see. And i have no idea what you're trying to say for an argument other than. NO YOUR WRONG. NOPE YOUR WRONG TOO. YOU HAVE NO SAY IN THIS. YOUR WRONG AND A MORON. At what point are you going to make an argument Mr. Perfect working class american. I found my sarcasm very entertaining, and your constant belief that your just super for no apparent reason. I still don't know how old you are, what you have for a job, any credentials, you still havn't explained why playing halo2 professioanlly is only recreation after 15 pages of this argument, and who the FUDGE appointed you as the voice of the american public. Because unlike Linkin Park, you havn't gotten any awards that I know you're any sort of reproduction of the public's oppinion.

lol talking in sarcasm is childish while calling people tards and morons without even attempting to make an argument isnt. Yet another strong argument from the anti-Halo as a Job side of this debate. You guys should probably bench this guy.


First off, I called YOU the tard, not everyone else, and since you can not add 2+2, I will spell everything out for you to easily interpret:

Why Playing Halo 2, or any other type of recreational game for money, is not a sport

By Webster definition, (dictionary.com is not a credible source) lets take a look at the 3 following words and then logically compare it to how the American (I cant speak for the British) society logically interprets these phrases: Sport, Athlete, Recreation.

Sport - I choose the only definition that really matters
1 a : a source of diversion : RECREATION b : -blam!- play c (1) : physical activity engaged in for pleasure (2) : a particular activity (as an athletic game) so engaged in.

---------------------------------
Recreation -
: refreshment of strength and spirits after work; also : a means of refreshment or diversion : HOBBY

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Athlete -
: a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina

---------------------------------

Now lets be honest here, according to the definition of 'Sport', according to the dictionary, playing video games whether for competition or not, falls under the category of being a sport. By that SAME definition, so does whacking off, taking a dump, swinging from trees... etc etc. We all know how the American society sees things, if some people cant grasp it, then you honestly have to be blind. You can't deny societies effect on everything around us, can you? Do you guys think society sees professional gaming as a 'Sport'? I.e. This means you should be able to take a 10,000 person random survey, and more than 50% of the people would say yes, it is a sport. Hypothetically, I just don't see that happening.

If a doctor explains to you that you need to go out more, be more active, and play some sports, is the first thing that pops in your head "I do play sports Doc, I play Halo 2 all the time"? I am providing you guys with an unbiased opinion right now. Take a step back and look at this how the world looks at it.

Now onto Athlete. Is it possible that a Halo 2 gamer is an athlete solely because he plays Halo 2? According to me - No. According to society - probably not. Can you deny that? Can a Halo 2 player ALSO be an athlete? OF course they can! The offensive line for the Arizona Cardinals play all the time (maybe they should concentrate more on their blocking skills though since they are terrible). Playing Halo 2, playing cards, playing board games, taking a dump, whacking off - these are all non-athletic activities. Would you agree that the general public agrees with this? I think its undeniable.

Now for my personal opinion, being someone who's played all different kinds of sports, for competition, money, for fun, I think it can be broken down thusly:
Sports: football, basketball, soccer, baseball, hockey, volleyball, tennis, water polo, track & field, any type of racing (not with cars) and a few others which slip my mind right now.
Recreation: Playing poker, darts, pool, playing video games, bowling, golf, (NASCAR is a tossup and think it should get its own category, anything that involves life threats should have its own category)


Now I think society as a whole, may include golf in either, or nascar in either... but the rest I think we can agree on (if we were all of society) right?

Why Playing Halo 2, or any other type of recreational game for money, is not work or a job

Now lets start off by saying this... If these select elite MLG guys are being paid to show up at conventions, train other people, speak at conferences, all for a paycheck.. then yes it is a job. The actual playing of Halo 2, is not, because they are not just getting paid to play halo 2. Agree?
Winning tournaments is not a job, winning money in competitions is not a job. If this was true, then almost everyone in Vegas would be considered 'working' at their 'job'.

Is it hard work? not in the slightest. Why?

My opinion: Doctors, construction workers, bankers, IT consultants, lawyers, mcdonald's employees, janitors, professional athletes (from the sports category above) all work hard. You cannot combine the mental exhaustion of being a halo 2 player to that of a doctor, banker, or IT consultant. They've gone through years and years of schooling, anxiety, work pressure, deadlines etc etc... things of which a Halo 2 player will never have to endure. Construction workers, pro atheletes, (mcdonalds, janitors on a lesser level) must have extreme physical endurance to do the same thing everyday, 8 hours a day, 300 days a year. Ask any one of them if playing Halo 2 is hard work. You guys have said it yourselves, when these guys are done playing, they will concentrate on a career. If Halo 2 is a job and hard work, and they are good at it, then why don't they just do that forever?


Even though I know I can't speak for society as a whole, I believe we can all agree on the general interpretation of what people would view MLG as being. We can't be that naive... can we?

*Side note, I just threw all my thoughts out here as quickly as possible, if you see flaws in my argument, please point them out and I will respond. I was typing this up and attempting to work at the same time*


"You guys have said it yourselves, when these guys are done playing, they will concentrate on a career. If Halo 2 is a job and hard work, and they are good at it, then why don't they just do that forever?"

Well, like any other athlete with the exception of Roger Clemens people get past their playing prime. As human beings get older their reaction times, memory and hand eye coordination start to fail. Thats why they cant play this forever.

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Posted by: HarlemPiff
No not really i come on these forums to see if anybody has anything interesting to say and all i read is ima MLG pro blah blah blah blah blah blah screw you're damn mlg playtypes geek go strap up and get in some ugly fat chicks pants dum ass


1. Find me one post, where anyone seriously claimed to be an MLG Pro.
2. Nice job calling us dumbasses, while spelling dumb wrong. Need I mention it would be "screw your". Oh, and 'playtypes', way to make up a word.
3. You would think it an accomplishment to get in a fat girl's pants, but the rest of probably wouldn't. Good luck with that though.

  • 06.27.2007 10:26 AM PDT

Posted by: S2K ViP3R
there is not point in saying hey i got a 40- HIGH RANK MEANS NOTHING, it means you either bridged host or cheated...and the skillfull player like myself have 27s cause of cheating.

Gamertag: StlcKs <-- i is an "L"

Posted by: Ix ReX xI
I will say this right now, in a neat organized list. *I know almost every pro personally in real life*

Final Bosses Tags:

Walshy - Yhslaw
OGRE 1 - FB og1/ESEA OGRE 1
OGRE 2 - FB OGRE 2/FB og2
StrongSide - StrongSide


Carbons Tags:

Ghandi - Scandi
Karma - Traumaone
ShocKWav3 - The ShocKWav3
GH057ayame - CbN GH057ayame

Perfect Storms Tags:

Legit - TuLegitimate
Naded - Naded (LiL Naded is his brother)

On the other topic.

Gaming is classified by the Federal Government as a sport. That is unarguable.

A gamer is considered an athlete as well because he meets the following criteria:
They are entertainment for an audience/fanbase.

They require specific physical features to make them above average professionals of their craft, such as Hand-eye-coordination and superior reflexes as well as intelligence.

It is also obviously a job seeing as how they are being payed to do a specific task, and they carry it out according to a contract signed with the employer. (MLG)



Dude Nightmare, this is StlcKs. I've played with you a few times.....

Nevermind, just checked the games. But it's kind of weird that Walshy was gone for 20 days....

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  • 06.27.2007 10:43 AM PDT
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Im not tryn to be mean but who really cares?

  • 06.27.2007 10:45 AM PDT

Posted by: HarlemPiff
No not really i come on these forums to see if anybody has anything interesting to say and all i read is ima MLG pro blah blah blah blah blah blah screw you're damn mlg playtypes geek go strap up and get in some ugly fat chicks pants dum ass


Why would you go into an MLG thread looking for interesting things to read that DON'T deal with MLG?

Oh yeh, I forgot that according to you, debating also constitutes as being a nerd. Since you decided to join in the debate, wouldn't you yourself, by your own definition, be considered a nerd now?

  • 06.27.2007 10:53 AM PDT

Posted by: KEVINBROCK
"You guys have said it yourselves, when these guys are done playing, they will concentrate on a career. If Halo 2 is a job and hard work, and they are good at it, then why don't they just do that forever?"

Well, like any other athlete with the exception of Roger Clemens people get past their playing prime. As human beings get older their reaction times, memory and hand eye coordination start to fail. Thats why they cant play this forever.


Yes, but they have retirement packages and still get money after they are playing.

  • 06.27.2007 10:54 AM PDT

My YouTube Channel. Just getting into the Machinima business.

I used to play with SmokedYeti on Halo 2 I think. Might have even had him on my friends list at a time.

  • 06.27.2007 10:56 AM PDT

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Kevin's post = breath of fresh air.
Take it from this guy people, he knows what he's talking about.

Second accounts are NOT cheating:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=13824

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Posted by: KEVINBROCK
"You guys have said it yourselves, when these guys are done playing, they will concentrate on a career. If Halo 2 is a job and hard work, and they are good at it, then why don't they just do that forever?"

Well, like any other athlete with the exception of Roger Clemens people get past their playing prime. As human beings get older their reaction times, memory and hand eye coordination start to fail. Thats why they cant play this forever.


Yes, but they have retirement packages and still get money after they are playing.


Keep in mind though that this is still a fledgling sport. In the future as the sport grows they may offer something like that. This sport is only about 4 years old. Baseball and Football didnt have retirment or HOF or even a draft when they were that young, but they were still a sport.

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Every single pro, every single one, and quote me on this, is nice. There is not one pro that is stuck up at all, and you wouldn't know that because you've never met any of them in real life or online. So don't be ignorant and label all pros as stuck up when you have no idea what your talking about.

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I thought I was playing a pro 1v1, but he was porbably just a copycat, but you never know.

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Posted by: RL King
I thought I was playing a pro 1v1, but he was porbably just a copycat, but you never know.


Link?

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Posted by: Ix ReX xI
Every single pro, every single one, and quote me on this, is nice. There is not one pro that is stuck up at all, and you wouldn't know that because you've never met any of them in real life or online. So don't be ignorant and label all pros as stuck up when you have no idea what your talking about.
Get off the pros nuts... I know what they don't want is some kid grabbin on to there nuts all day.

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Posted by: Ix ReX xI
Posted by: RL King
I thought I was playing a pro 1v1, but he was porbably just a copycat, but you never know.


Link?


Very old game, probably at least 1 1/2 years old. I don't have it anymore. It wasn't even on my account.

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Posted by: Deceiver196_
Posted by: Sketto
Posted by: Ix ReX xI
Posted by: Sketto
Posted by: Ix ReX xI
Ok, none, however, gaming is included....


Do you find that controversial though?

I mean I can call myself an athlete, when I'm morbidly obese , because I play Halo 2?


If your a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, agility, or stamina.


So a morbidly obese person can be called an athlete, under your "interpretation" of the definition.

I don't think that's right.


So a fat person cannot be an athlete?
If that is the case a few proffesional football players aren't athletes......
Haha, Critical isnt an athlete.

  • 06.27.2007 12:01 PM PDT