- last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT
Posted by: Captiosus
Ah, this thread is still around. I have been gone for several days and figured it would have been long gone.
So much FUD to respond to, so little time to do so. All I'll say is UXB is pretty much dead accurate in every one of his posts.
For the record, defeating the Vista-only limitation of the installer is a violation of section 6 of the H2V and Shadowrun EULA. Look it up. It says you will not bypass the technical limitations of the software. Welllllllllll.. forcing it to require Vista is a limitation. And if Microsoft plans on keeping any integrity regarding their Live services, they will patch both games to prevent them from running on XP. Use these mods at your own risk, but don't come complaining when they get patched and you can't play anymore unless you want a nice big bold "I told you so".
But enough of this. Everyone is so "pissed off" about H2V and Shadowrun being put on Vista only when people should be pissed about the fact that DX10 is Vista only. People in this thread saying XP will be around for a long time to come? Not if you want to play future PC games it won't be. Once things start using DX10, your complaints about H2V and Shadowrun being Vista only will be the TIP of the iceberg.
So, yeah, XP will still be around for some time to come. In homes of folks still using older computers or in businesses that can't afford or are too leery to upgrade. But if you ever want to play a game that requires DX10, enjoy getting Vista. And yes, UXB is completely right. XP will cease to be manufactured on 01/2008 and support (patches, updates, service packs) will no longer be made come 01/2009.
Posted by: SPARTACVS
All I know is that for me in Vista, Halo 2 ran about 20-30fps at 1024x768 on Low with no AA. On XP, it runs at about 30-45fps at 1280x720 on Medium with 2xAA, not to mention LOADS IN A QUARTER OF THE TIME ON AN INCREASED DETAIL LEVEL.
Aww, poor baby. Do you want a cookie because Vista takes more system resources?
I get a kick out of every person who -blam!-es about Vista being more of a resource hog than XP because people made the exact same complaints about XP when it came out, 2K when it came out and 98 when it came out. Sorry your computer sucks too much to run Vista and play H2V. But that doesn't give you the right, implied or otherwise, to defeat the programmed limitation of the game to run it on XP.
For the record, I'm running Vista Ultimate Edition on a Pentium E6700 with 3 GB of Crucial Ballistix RAM on a eVGA GeForce 7900GS/512MB PCIe card and I've had to manually turn vsync on because on medium at 1280x1024 with 4xAA, I was getting an average of 160 FPS. Doesn't sound like a Vista problem to me, sounds like someone's not up to date on their hardware and unrealistically expects a recent release to work flawlessly.
I think your missing the bigger picture here pal. While I do agree with most of what you said, I also find you wrong. These people have every right to be angry at Microsoft. Also, don't degrade others items and boasting yours just because there not as good as yours, even if they complain with/about it. It does not look good for ones character.
Look, the big picture of it all is people are low on money these days. You can thank the government and its new radical ideas like the Rumsfeld Doctrine for that. More people are unemployed, and more people are concerned about losing there jobs because of high competition, not to mention invasion of the immigrates willing to work cheaper. But judging by your competence, you most likely already know this.
Vista can cost anywhere from 150-500 dollars, and now a days thats just to much for the blow joe to spend. Remember back when OS's costed 99-200 dollars? You had a good OS, that was innovative, and it was only 100 bucks-200.
Now a days OS's are not as innovative, and yes, I am going to say that Vista is not that innovative. My proof lies with all the other OS's that are out there, like Tiger, Linix, etc. MS took many of those features including styles or looks, and put it in there product, then calling it innovative. If you want more proof, just look it up on youtube.com for for more information. I know Vista has some really good features, but it is not as good as it is touted to be. It is also way over priced, and most people can not get the XP upgrade because they need the XP CD if I remember correctly to upgrade, and most PC packages come with recovery disks.
Also, this time around it is not just the OS that needs to be added in for the price. Hardware is a must to if anyone wants to get anything off the ground with Vista. This can be anywhere from 400-1000 dollars more, on top of that 150-500 dollar OS. Sorry, but Vista is not worth it, and people have every right to get angry at MS when they claim that You could never run Halo 2 well on XP, or as efficantly vrs Vista. On both accounts, yes we take note that Vista demands more on CPU, but on both counts, MS lied. Plus on top of all of this, they want us to shell out a lot of money to pay for these lies.
I challenge you to go down to your local Social Security Center and see all the people in there. Many are crazy, but nice crazy. When I went down there, it changed my life. I heard a man begging and crying because he had to borrow money because Social Security at first would not cover some things for him. His wife had a heart attack, and he had to pay a but load of Medical bills. He eventually went into debt, and started borrowing money so he could get everything to work. Fancy having to -blam!- a old man of is money because we in America can not even have a decent medical coverage. Thats the number one way Americans go into debt in fact.
I think that it would do your character some good if you went down there and see some of the people who are born poor and try to live it through. There are more of them then you think, but America does a good job of hiding it. Some of these people might be on this board right now, saving up 50 dollars just so they can buy there fav. game halo 2 on the PC. They prob. saved up for months for it, and where to cheep to get it on the console. Now they can play with it on XP, on one of there cheep computers, and in the mean time simply say they are angry that another person is trying to rob them of the little bit of money they have, to enjoy some of the things we as Americans take for granted.
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