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Posted by: Captiosus
For the record, defeating the Vista-only limitation of the installer is a violation of section 6 of the H2V and Shadowrun EULA. Look it upI wasn’t even going to bring that subject up. The concept of EULA’s and gamers is never a good mix. Even copyright lawyers have problems interpreting them. Besides everyone knows you do not purchase and own software you just license it under the terms of the End User License Agreement (EULA), everyone but gamers that is <laugh>.
Posted by: Aktins_Diet
Look, the big picture of it all is people are low on money these days.
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Vista can cost anywhere from 150-500 dollars, and now a days thats just to much for the blow joe to spend. Remember back when OS's costed 99-200 dollars? I also remember when gas was 28 cents a gallon, sue me I’m old. Regardless, there is no inalienable right for people to play computer games. It costs what it costs. If your situation is such that you can’t afford it, and excuse me for being blunt, then you do without. You have no inalienable right to it. Besides, $190.00 for an OS is not much compared to the life of the product. XP is 9 year old technology. You will probably have Vista for at least 5 years that’s $38.00 a year or 11 cents a day.
Posted by: Aktins_Diet
Sorry, but Vista is not worth it, and people have every right to get angry at MS when they claim that You could never run Halo 2 well on XP, or as efficantly vrs Vista. Bungie and Microsoft said that Halo 2 was being developed for Vista and not for XP. How did they lie? They developed it for Vista and not for XP. It requires an unsupported third party hacked emulation for it to run on XP in some form. People who are mad are upset because they can not reconcile what they percieved was being said with what was actually said. They made assumptions based on misconceptions and now faced with he reality of the situation instead of being upset with themselves are venting that inner frustration on Microsoft. (Spooky huh?) Either that or they are just to darnn cheap and rather spend it at MacDonalds or on designer sneakers or concert Tee shirts.
Posted by: Aktins_Diet
His wife had a heart attack, and he had to pay a but load of Medical bills. He eventually went into debt, and started borrowing money so he could get everything to work. Fancy having to -blam!- a old man of is money because we in America can not even have a decent medical coverage. Thats the number one way Americans go into debt in fact.
Everyone has a sob story and I feel for them, I have mine, and I am acutely familiar with the cost of uninsured medical care to the tune of six figures, but that has absolutely nothing to do with this subject. Not only is it not part of the picture it’s not part of the “big picture.”
XP is 9 year old technology and the best that I can tell is that most of the people complaining have never known anything else. They grew up with XP, most had it given to them buy their parents, and now they are resistant to 1) change and 2) spending their own money. With the increase in technological innovation and the dropping costs of hardware and software there is no excuse for this level of complaints. If you don’t have the money then I am sorry but Halo 2 is not a minimum requirement for the standard of living. It should not even be a concern for you much less something to complain about.
As I have said in other posts I can find many other logical reasons to complain about Microsoft, and I do - often, but this is not one of them. Vista is a better operating system than XP. Its cost is minimal compared to the long term savings in IT support and I cannot blame MS for adopting a Vista only policy. After all it is what they are betting their business on in the coming years.
How did MS lie (not bungie)
1) MS said Halo 2 Could not Run on Windows XP, or the very least, very good.
2) MS said that Halo 2 would run better on Vista, and it was streamlined more for vista.
Both accounts are not true. The 3rd party only proves that MS could get it to work on XP, and very well in fact.
I hate to say it, but I feel you are completely wrong on this my friend.
Everyone has a sob story and I feel for them, I have mine, and I am acutely familiar with the cost of uninsured medical care to the tune of six figures, but that has absolutely nothing to do with this subject. Not only is it not part of the picture it’s not part of the “big picture.”
It is part of the picture because it shows that some people out there are stuck in hard places, and I wanted to show the person that there is something more in the world then Big rig computers and high priced items, and why people are angry at MS for this.
Again, I feel you missed what I was saying.
XP is 9 year old technology and the best that I can tell is that most of the people complaining have never known anything else. They grew up with XP, most had it given to them buy their parents, and now they are resistant to 1) change and 2) spending their [b]own money.
Who said that Everyone had to be 12-18 who complain? Or even worse, know nothing else. The statement you said of "most people" tends me to think that you are very concerned with the word "me" and not with the rest of the world. A lot of people complain who are parents my friend. Vista is to expensive, and the hardware changes are also expensive. Children are in fact, the minority in the general complaints.
With the increase in technological innovation and the dropping costs of hardware and software there is no excuse for this level of complaints. If you don’t have the money then I am sorry but Halo 2 is not a minimum requirement for the standard of living. It should not even be a concern for you much less something to complain about.
Actually, there is room to complain. Microsoft controls most of the market for OS. MS choose to make the price as high as it was, as well as how much vista was going to demand from hardware. Ever used linix? It can have more features, and use less horse power then Vista. The down side is that it is not as pretty. Research it yourself if you do not believe me. Microsoft is clearly targeting the Commercial industry first, and waiting for a trickle down to happen with the average joe. MS is also threatening to stop support with XP very soon, adding the the pressure. And the last sentence is complete tunnel vision. You do not set the standards for what people think my young friend. It sounds like a good thing too, because if what you are thinking is the standard, then we might as well all shut up when we feel that we might be getting suckered by the big guy, and live with the fact some people can get it because there more rich, and thus we should not complain.
As I have said in other posts I can find many other logical reasons to complain about Microsoft, and I do - often, but this is not one of them. Vista is a better operating system than XP. Its cost is minimal compared to the long term savings in IT support and I cannot blame MS for adopting a Vista only policy. After all it is what they are betting their business on in the coming years.
Well there is something I can for the most part agree with you on. I hope you do not take anything I said offensive, but I do intend on trying to educate and open doors for people, as well as express my opinions respectfully, because it is the American thing to do in a free country.
-Aktins Diet
[Edited on 06.29.2007 2:44 PM PDT]