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Subject: To everyone who think button glitchers can't win without them.

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Posted by: Dante Hicks
[quote]Posted by: hellodeadman

1.)[...] You are so incredibly ignorant. [...]
2.)[...]It is a tool in close range combat to take someone out quickly, and that's all it is.[...]
3.)[...]Gtliches aren't even as big as you think they are. They are not mods.[...]
4.)[...]They don't have any effect on the power or range of your weapons or anything like that.[...]
5.)[...] Everyone can do them, and most choose to.[...]
6.)[...]#1. Because they are bad #2. Because they think that the only reason they are losing is because the other team button glitches, and don't bother to get any better.[...]

Alright...let's look at the idiotic statements one by one. First one...well we'll get to that. Let's move on for right now, I'll come back to this one. For 2.), the BR is not suppose to be a good weapon at close range. Using animation glitches ruins weapons balance for the BR. If you have a BR, you are SUPPOSE to lose the majority of the times to the sword, shotgun, dual-wields. Using an animation glitch breaks gameplay, plain and simple. For 3, there are more people cheating in MM using animation glitches currently than there are modders. Modders are caught within at least 8 hours while people who cheat by using animation glitches are hardly ever caught. However...both of them are cheating. 4.) The use of animation glitches change the effectiveness of the BR, it allows someone to be effective at a range where they are not suppose to be (close range). See #2. For #5, this goes back to you being ignorant. You do realize that not everyone can use glitches right? RIGHT? You couldn't be that deliciously ignorant....no that would be too easy. Bungie/XBL have said countless times that not everyone can use glitches (animation or physics) which is one of the big reasons why it is considered cheating to use in MM on XBL. #6, Nice ad hominem, how can I possibly argue against this? No, the majority of people who don't use button glitches don't use them because THEY DON'T WANT TO CHEAT!! See how that works? I know how to use animation glitches, but I don't use them because I DON'T WANT TO CHEAT!!! As soon as someone exploits a glitch in either the physics engine or the animation system, the game is ruined. Because someone did something that essentially "broke weapons balance" or "broke map balance".

Now...I would suggest you stop talking OP, and stop criticizing (especially me) about being ignorant when you have only demonstrated how little you understand about the subject. Not everyone can glitch. Not everyone who doesn't glitch are bad at the game.


2.) So If I have a BR out, walk around the corner and see a sword guy standing there, that is supposed to be the end of me? No chance to fight back at all, the same thing would happen if I spun around in circles while he lunged at me? This DOES happen most of the time, but with BxR if you are fast enough, you still have a chance. A small one, but it's there.

3.) When i said "big" I meant gameplay changing. BxRing will not win most matches for you, neither will doubleshot. It still depends on your skill at aiming and thinking,

4.) See number 2

5.) Not everyone can use them? Some people have a physical disability that prevents them from pressing B X and R in that order? That's news to me.

6.) It may be considered cheating, but it is borderline. The player has to go to no extra effort to button glitch. It is in the game, and usable by a simple combination of button presses. You cannot get banned for it.

I know some people who don't button glitch are good. Just MOST aren't.

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Posted by: hellodeadman
Posted by: Dante Hicks


Good for you, you think you're good at a video game, I'm sure your mum is soooo proud of you. If you were a good player your aim, accuracy, and strategy should be sufficient to win without the exploitation of animation glitches. But I guess since you feel that occasionally your ability and skill is lacking, go ahead and use cheap glitches. I'm sure that means you're good enough to practice glitches instead of practicing the game.


You guys don't understand. You are so incredibly ignorant. I don't go around, hiding around corners so I can BxR people, and nothing else. I don't think about it. It's as part of the game to me as sniping or BRing. It is a tool in close range combat to take someone out quickly, and that's all it is. I NEVER rub in it someones face after I BxR them. It's so easy to do, it's just like normal meleeing, just faster. Same thing goes with all the other glitches.

Gtliches aren't even as big as you think they are. They are not mods. They don't have any effect on the power or range of your weapons or anything like that. Everyone can do them, and most choose to. People who don't do them, still have the same chance of out bring me, but they don't, because I don't ever "practice" button glitching, I practice using my BR and strafe and setups. Most Anti button glitchers don't #1. Because they are bad #2. Because they think that the only reason they are losing is because the other team button glitches, and don't bother to get any better.

*Note: I am not talking about EVERYONE at Bungie.net, ujst the ones who think they could win. You guys know you aren't, and some have posted here.


Are you just saying you're better than everyone else who doesn't button glitch? Cause if you're not (this is what I hope) please clarify. I don't care if people button glitch, but just because I don't doesn't mean I'm bad at the game like you seem to imply.

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Is it considered legal to use button glitches in MLG?

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I know some people who don't button glitch are good. Just MOST aren't.


Okay, I tried to think neutral about you, but after I read this I just have to think to myself, you are a stupid -blam!-.

  • 06.28.2007 4:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: hellodeadman
I am sick and tired of the idiots on here that think that everyone who button glitches is the only thing they can do. They continuously say that they would beat them if they didn't use them, they are noobs, they have serious life issues(WTF? For glitching in a video game? Get a grip on reality, jesus). Also, it is absolutely absurd what you guys say about pros and MLG. You think they are only there because they can button glitch. You are just wrong. I would bet my life you couldn't beat them with their handicap on.

You know what? I can do all the glitches when I want to. I'll bet I can beat anyone on here who wants to challenge me, and I won't use the glitches.

Lockout or Warlock, Rifles, your host unless it's horrible, then it's mine. Leave your GT here, I'll send you a FR.

This is meant to get all those stupid delusions out of your stupid little heads that everyone who button glitches can't win without them. Hopefully most of you will realize you are wrong.



lets see if your glicthes save you in halo3


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Alright OP, let me tell you something. You came on here with somewhat good intentions, trying to defend yourself.

Now you're just attacking everyone else. Shut the -blam!- up. Why the hell do you think almost everyone who doesn't button glitch sucks? You don't have to be in MLG to be good, you know.

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ok button glitches are cool and all dont really care either way...but please...please...quit with the whole bad kid thing...that is by far the stupidest comeback i have ever heard...you sound like a 3 year old callin someone else a poo poo head...there is your downfall...is callin someone a bad kid...sounds like something my mom would say when i was a kid or a elementary school teacher...YOU HAVE BEEN A BAD KID!....lmao...get outta here and learn somethin better

  • 06.28.2007 4:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: hellodeadman
Posted by: Dante Hicks
[quote]Posted by: hellodeadman

1.)[...] You are so incredibly ignorant. [...]
2.)[...]It is a tool in close range combat to take someone out quickly, and that's all it is.[...]
3.)[...]Gtliches aren't even as big as you think they are. They are not mods.[...]
4.)[...]They don't have any effect on the power or range of your weapons or anything like that.[...]
5.)[...] Everyone can do them, and most choose to.[...]
6.)[...]#1. Because they are bad #2. Because they think that the only reason they are losing is because the other team button glitches, and don't bother to get any better.[...]

Alright...let's look at the idiotic statements one by one. First one...well we'll get to that. Let's move on for right now, I'll come back to this one. For 2.), the BR is not suppose to be a good weapon at close range. Using animation glitches ruins weapons balance for the BR. If you have a BR, you are SUPPOSE to lose the majority of the times to the sword, shotgun, dual-wields. Using an animation glitch breaks gameplay, plain and simple. For 3, there are more people cheating in MM using animation glitches currently than there are modders. Modders are caught within at least 8 hours while people who cheat by using animation glitches are hardly ever caught. However...both of them are cheating. 4.) The use of animation glitches change the effectiveness of the BR, it allows someone to be effective at a range where they are not suppose to be (close range). See #2. For #5, this goes back to you being ignorant. You do realize that not everyone can use glitches right? RIGHT? You couldn't be that deliciously ignorant....no that would be too easy. Bungie/XBL have said countless times that not everyone can use glitches (animation or physics) which is one of the big reasons why it is considered cheating to use in MM on XBL. #6, Nice ad hominem, how can I possibly argue against this? No, the majority of people who don't use button glitches don't use them because THEY DON'T WANT TO CHEAT!! See how that works? I know how to use animation glitches, but I don't use them because I DON'T WANT TO CHEAT!!! As soon as someone exploits a glitch in either the physics engine or the animation system, the game is ruined. Because someone did something that essentially "broke weapons balance" or "broke map balance".

Now...I would suggest you stop talking OP, and stop criticizing (especially me) about being ignorant when you have only demonstrated how little you understand about the subject. Not everyone can glitch. Not everyone who doesn't glitch are bad at the game.


2.) So If I have a BR out, walk around the corner and see a sword guy standing there, that is supposed to be the end of me? No chance to fight back at all, the same thing would happen if I spun around in circles while he lunged at me? This DOES happen most of the time, but with BxR if you are fast enough, you still have a chance. A small one, but it's there.

3.) When i said "big" I meant gameplay changing. BxRing will not win most matches for you, neither will doubleshot. It still depends on your skill at aiming and thinking,

4.) See number 2

5.) Not everyone can use them? Some people have a physical disability that prevents them from pressing B X and R in that order? That's news to me.

6.) It may be considered cheating, but it is borderline. The player has to go to no extra effort to button glitch. It is in the game, and usable by a simple combination of button presses. You cannot get banned for it.

I know some people who don't button glitch are good. Just MOST aren't.


its not a disability. some people doesnt cant glitch at all because of their game. my friend cant super bounce or do any of the button glitches no matter what.

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Posted by: hellodeadman

5.) Not everyone can use them? Some people have a physical disability that prevents them from pressing B X and R in that order? That's news to me.

6.) It may be considered cheating, but it is borderline. The player has to go to no extra effort to button glitch. It is in the game, and usable by a simple combination of button presses. You cannot get banned for it.



I'm only going to address these 2 things, because they prove that your an idiot. You do realize that there are certain TV settings that do not allow for the use of glitches. Right? RIGHT? Yeah, I'm sure you knew about that because you wouldn't talk about something without knowing all the facts about it.

It's not borderline! Bungie/XBL say it's cheating. How is that borderline? They are the authority, they make the rules. There are no gray areas when the 2 people that have authority says it's cheating!

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Posted by: Dante Hicks
[quote]Posted by: hellodeadman

1.)[...] You are so incredibly ignorant. [...]
2.)[...]It is a tool in close range combat to take someone out quickly, and that's all it is.[...]
3.)[...]Gtliches aren't even as big as you think they are. They are not mods.[...]
4.)[...]They don't have any effect on the power or range of your weapons or anything like that.[...]
5.)[...] Everyone can do them, and most choose to.[...]
6.)[...]#1. Because they are bad #2. Because they think that the only reason they are losing is because the other team button glitches, and don't bother to get any better.[...]

Alright...let's look at the idiotic statements one by one. First one...well we'll get to that. Let's move on for right now, I'll come back to this one. For 2.), the BR is not suppose to be a good weapon at close range. Using animation glitches ruins weapons balance for the BR. If you have a BR, you are SUPPOSE to lose the majority of the times to the sword, shotgun, dual-wields. Using an animation glitch breaks gameplay, plain and simple. For 3, there are more people cheating in MM using animation glitches currently than there are modders. Modders are caught within at least 8 hours while people who cheat by using animation glitches are hardly ever caught. However...both of them are cheating. 4.) The use of animation glitches change the effectiveness of the BR, it allows someone to be effective at a range where they are not suppose to be (close range). See #2. For #5, this goes back to you being ignorant. You do realize that not everyone can use glitches right? RIGHT? You couldn't be that deliciously ignorant....no that would be too easy. Bungie/XBL have said countless times that not everyone can use glitches (animation or physics) which is one of the big reasons why it is considered cheating to use in MM on XBL. #6, Nice ad hominem, how can I possibly argue against this? No, the majority of people who don't use button glitches don't use them because THEY DON'T WANT TO CHEAT!! See how that works? I know how to use animation glitches, but I don't use them because I DON'T WANT TO CHEAT!!! As soon as someone exploits a glitch in either the physics engine or the animation system, the game is ruined. Because someone did something that essentially "broke weapons balance" or "broke map balance".

Now...I would suggest you stop talking OP, and stop criticizing (especially me) about being ignorant when you have only demonstrated how little you understand about the subject. Not everyone can glitch. Not everyone who doesn't glitch are bad at the game.


When I started playing Halo 2 MM I was the same as you. I knew how to button glitch but I didn't because I felt it was a cheap way to get kills. After a few weeks of getting BxRed or BxBed I got fed up and started glitching. Anymore, the majority of Halo players glitch and there is not stopping it. Glitching does give you a major advantage against someone that doesn't glitch in close-range combat BUT it is still counterable. I don't think I have ever BxRed a sword that is lunging at me or a shotty that's in my face if the player is decent and is aware that I am there and is going for me. Bottom line, the glitches have CHANGED the game...not ruined it. If you are too stubborn to start glitching because the game HAS changed then keep getting BxRed and complain. There's no stopping the glitching and no one that glitches wants to stop...not because they're bad...but because the game has CHANGED! It's just like anything else in life...you get bored of the same old thing and try to change the way you do something or play something. And all that about people not being able to glitch...that's a load of bs...if they can't glitch then they are physically incapable of doing it or they just need to get a new TV.

Start glitching and stop complaining about us because we're the majority now and you can't do anything about it



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Wow, you guys are arguing over who's better than one another at a video game. Do you guys honestly have lives?

  • 06.28.2007 4:48 PM PDT

Posted by: Dante Hicks
Posted by: hellodeadman

5.) Not everyone can use them? Some people have a physical disability that prevents them from pressing B X and R in that order? That's news to me.

6.) It may be considered cheating, but it is borderline. The player has to go to no extra effort to button glitch. It is in the game, and usable by a simple combination of button presses. You cannot get banned for it.



I'm only going to address these 2 things, because they prove that your an idiot. You do realize that there are certain TV settings that do not allow for the use of glitches. Right? RIGHT? Yeah, I'm sure you knew about that because you wouldn't talk about something without knowing all the facts about it.

It's not borderline! Bungie/XBL say it's cheating. How is that borderline? They are the authority, they make the rules. There are no gray areas when the 2 people that have authority says it's cheating!

First off, the only glitch people with "certain TV settings" (aka PAL) are super jumps. EVERYONE can do button glitches no matter what TV type they have.

Secondly, Bungie can say it is cheating all they want. As long as they don't do anything about, nothing is going to keep people from doing them. People won't take Bungie seriously about button glitches being considered cheating until they do something about it.

The ignorance regarded button glitching by the "Anti-Button Glitching" is amazing. Before you bash people for what they do, understand what/how it is they are doing.

Regardless, people need to stop saying that people who do certain things suck. It just embarrasses your self, no one else. It makes you look foolish.

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I have a couple friends who live in Europe and have PAL TVs. They can superbouce fine. Saying that no one with PAL is just being ignorant...like most people in this thread.

I can win in THC without glitches. Actually, I can win without shooting...

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  • 06.28.2007 5:20 PM PDT

Posted by: I SacramenT I
I have a couple friends who live in Europe and have PAL TVs. They can superbouce fine. Saying that no one with PAL is just being ignorant...like most people in this thread.

Either way, everyone can button glitch no matter what kind of TV they have. I will say I was wrong about PAL TV's and super jumping. I based it off of everything I've researched about the subject.

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Posted by: OG Fastforward
Posted by: I SacramenT I
I have a couple friends who live in Europe and have PAL TVs. They can superbouce fine. Saying that no one with PAL is just being ignorant...like most people in this thread.

Either way, everyone can button glitch no matter what kind of TV they have. I will say I was wrong about PAL TV's and super jumping. I based it off of everything I've researched about the subject.

I wasnt trying to correct you or anything, just making a point about the ignorant people in this thread.

:)

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Posted by: hellodeadman
I am sick and tired of the idiots on here that think that everyone who button glitches is the only thing they can do. They continuously say that they would beat them if they didn't use them, they are noobs, they have serious life issues(WTF? For glitching in a video game? Get a grip on reality, jesus). Also, it is absolutely absurd what you guys say about pros and MLG. You think they are only there because they can button glitch. You are just wrong. I would bet my life you couldn't beat them with their handicap on.

You know what? I can do all the glitches when I want to. I'll bet I can beat anyone on here who wants to challenge me, and I won't use the glitches.

Lockout or Warlock, Rifles, your host unless it's horrible, then it's mine. Leave your GT here, I'll send you a FR.

This is meant to get all those stupid delusions out of your stupid little heads that everyone who button glitches can't win without them. Hopefully most of you will realize you are wrong.


get above a 30 without using them kid

  • 06.28.2007 5:29 PM PDT

Posted by: I SacramenT I
Posted by: OG Fastforward
Posted by: I SacramenT I
I have a couple friends who live in Europe and have PAL TVs. They can superbouce fine. Saying that no one with PAL is just being ignorant...like most people in this thread.

Either way, everyone can button glitch no matter what kind of TV they have. I will say I was wrong about PAL TV's and super jumping. I based it off of everything I've researched about the subject.

I wasnt trying to correct you or anything, just making a point about the ignorant people in this thread.

:)


Alright. I wasn't sure.

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Heres how you beat button glitchers.

POV = QsK Icy

Im in there too.

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SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!

Button glitches, or "system manipulation" are defined as cheating according the the xbox Live ToU. The Bungie.net CoC and ToU forbids discussing or advocating cheating on these forums. Ergo, this thread is now locked.

Whether or not someone who glitches can beat someone who can't or won't glitch is not my concern. This debate will never end. The naysayers will continue on as they always have, and the pro-glitch people will continue on as they always have too. And, I'll continue locking these played out and pointless discussions as I see them.

The world keeps turning...

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