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Subject: Should we PAY for the maps?

were already paying for xbl so i think they should be free.

  • 07.04.2007 4:47 PM PDT

No, we need to buy to support the Halo 1,2, ,3, and Wars. there are "about" 40,000 ppl that play halo 2 and about 3/4 of them purchased map pack. Multiply $4.50 times 3/4 of the ppl and that be alot of money. That will help Bungie.

  • 07.04.2007 6:18 PM PDT

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they shouldnt be free because all the babies out there who cant afford 4 dollas need to get a job


Says the kid who's mom bought him the maps..


Lmao!

  • 07.04.2007 6:22 PM PDT
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no, maps take a lot of time and energy to make, they shouldn't be free as soon as they are released. though they definately SHOULD fix all these problems people are having instead of ignoring them.

  • 07.04.2007 7:30 PM PDT
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I'm more than willing to pay for the maps. I totally believe in helping support Bungie or whoever is providing real services, but I keep getting the "installation of content failed" message. No one at tech support can help me and I want to play all of matchmaking, not to mention use the new maps.

  • 07.04.2007 10:19 PM PDT

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i dont understand how people dont have credit cards. you need one to start your account. i understand if its not yours, but then you should just ask whoever's it is to pay for it. give them 5 bux and have them charge it on a credit card. as far as people not being old enough, this is a mature rated game, so people should be old enough to have a credit card if they play halo 2

  • 07.04.2007 10:28 PM PDT

Its not only "Cause we dont have credit cards" but because we have better things to buy then a pair of damn maps for a game we already paid for. And yes, 4 bucks is a lot to waste in this world compared to gas college, bill, etc. Some of us just dont have 4 bucks to throw away on a damn game. So we wait for it to be free, and we have waited for about a month now without being able to play 3/4s of matchmaking, so I think we should get our -blam!- game back.

You have a credit card, good. I have a credit card and a life, but not 4 bucks to throw on a pair of half-assed maps. And yes, they are half-assed from all that I hear, so I am not wasting 4 bucks, and im not starting now.

Go head, flame me, at least I dont have to run to my parents for credit cards like half of you did. Also note maps will say 4.50, but add tax, and the tax the CC company charges also.

[Edited on 07.04.2007 10:53 PM PDT]

  • 07.04.2007 10:52 PM PDT

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I will agree the maps do suck. and its your choice not to buy the maps if you dont want to spend the 4.50. But dont come on here and complain about them. you paid for halo 2, and what came on the disc. unless you can find me where on a reciept or in the game where it says includes new maps later on, then you dont deserve to get the maps free. The maps are a new product completely.

As far as having other things to spend 4 bux on, that seems like total BS. I have to pay for college, gas, etc. and 4 dollars is not the big of deal. find a job that you can work, that pays you well, and work there, 4 bux wont be such a big deal. also how do you pay for xbox live, which is 50 bux if you cannot afford the 4 bux for the new maps?

oh and as far as comparing the 4 bux to gas, thats a gallon and a half, at very top most. so 4 bux for maps is comparable to a gallon or two of gas.

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  • 07.04.2007 11:05 PM PDT

The world isnt free it costs money to make stuff. Getting the maps for free is like moving into a house without paying. Like downloading music Why drive to the store when my computer is on. If you want everything to be free, can i have your xbox, and how about a car while your at it.


Also there were map packs for sale so you didnt need a cc for them

  • 07.04.2007 11:15 PM PDT

Posted by: KandenSF
were already paying for xbl so i think they should be free.



Where may I ask does it say that Bungie gets payed when you pay for xbl. They are 2 differnt companies with 2 different groups of workers. So you would rather people not get payyed becasue your poor ass cant pay $4.

This is why people Hate America

  • 07.04.2007 11:22 PM PDT


As far as having other things to spend 4 bux on, that seems like total BS. I have to pay for college, gas, etc. and 4 dollars is not the big of deal. find a job that you can work, that pays you well, and work there, 4 bux wont be such a big deal. also how do you pay for xbox live, which is 50 bux if you cannot afford the 4 bux for the new maps?


Correct, and its more of "I dont want to spend 4 bucks, which is going to turn out lie 7 when I get the bill after the additional charges." And you do not live my lifestyle, you dont know me personally, and you cannot say that its BS, cause its not. I am going to a top-nouch college and paying for dorms at 7g a semster minus the meal plans. I do not have a priority to spend 4 bucks on a pair of maps when I can put it to better use. Now that I have moved, I have to find a job after leaving the 2 i already worked in my previous location. Dont judge people, cause you cant and you suck at it.

  • 07.04.2007 11:47 PM PDT
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hehehe 14 ppl voted "no' - looks like we have 14 credit cards user here ;)
there will be no such problem with Halo 3 - MS points are good idea... shame that they dont work with Halo 2... :(

  • 07.05.2007 12:17 AM PDT
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Posted by: da gamer
i dont understand how people dont have credit cards. you need one to start your account. i understand if its not yours, but then you should just ask whoever's it is to pay for it. give them 5 bux and have them charge it on a credit card. as far as people not being old enough, this is a mature rated game, so people should be old enough to have a credit card if they play halo 2


prepaid xbox live cards idiot...
dont need a credit card to sign up for xbox live

  • 07.05.2007 12:33 AM PDT
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Posted by: da gamer
i dont understand how people dont have credit cards. you need one to start your account.

as far as people not being old enough, this is a mature rated game, so people should be old enough to have a credit card if they play halo 2


First of all, no. You dont need a credit card to start up Xbox Live. You can go to your local Wal-Mart/Best Buy, and buy the 1 Month/3/year memberships.

As for people not being old enough. You must be an ESRB lover. Them biggots up there just cant stand the fact that people want to see violence, and they need to slap labels on games with a little bit of animated blood. Who cares.

Last but not least, if your 17, you can still get M rated games, but cant get a Credit Card.

  • 07.05.2007 12:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: XNerdymikeyX

prepaid xbox live cards idiot...
dont need a credit card to sign up for xbox live


Thank you.

  • 07.05.2007 12:37 AM PDT

The only reason they didn't use MS points is so that ALL halo 2 players could purchase the maps - including the ones on the original xbox. That was a good thing to do, and you guys -blam!- about it? There are ways to get round the credit card problem, and if you're too cheap to buy the maps then you've got no cause to -blam!- because they will be free soon. You're lucky to even get maps for such an old game, let alone for free.

Posted by: KandenSF
were already paying for xbl so i think they should be free.

You're paying Microsoft for a subscription to the Xbox Live Network. You're not paying anyone to make maps for you. If nobody paid, then new maps would not be made for this nearly 3-year old game.

  • 07.05.2007 1:53 AM PDT
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Posted by: da gamer
i dont understand how people dont have credit cards. you need one to start your account. i understand if its not yours, but then you should just ask whoever's it is to pay for it. give them 5 bux and have them charge it on a credit card. as far as people not being old enough, this is a mature rated game, so people should be old enough to have a credit card if they play halo 2


For anyone on a 360, all it takes is making an account, no credit card required, just a valid email, and it gives you one month free of Live.

They also have the prepaid cards for 1, 3, or 12 months of Live at places like Best Buy and Circuit City, so a credit card isn't needed at all.

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  • 07.05.2007 7:49 AM PDT

Here is the thing that people who buy the maps should know.

I understand that it costs time and money to make some maps, even if they are substandard and poorly done.
Ms and bungie feel they should be paid for these maps which is fair enough. I have no problems with a supply and demand market.
Thats not a problem for me, thats okay, i understand these issues and i find them fair enough, even though I think they should be free to begin with since this is fleecing your hardcore fanbase for their money, but you have the right to do that (unfortunately)

But the REAL problem, and essentially the issue here for me is the fact that some of the initial reasons that I bought this game has become limited, and effectively removed from me untill I pay more money to bungie and MS. They want me to pay them to retain full functionality into a product i already owned.

Yes, I didn't buy Halo 2 with the knowledge that new maps become free.
But I DID buy Halo 2 with the knowledge that I would have access to a full set of options which includes different playlists.

You see what you are buying is not just 2 Maps, your buying the right to have previous features you had work again. And thats not just an insult its a disgrace. I have a credit card, but I wouldn't pay a company to give me something I once had free to work again. Playlists I can no longer play unless I have these maps I don't want. You can sell what you want and I can buy what I want, but i shouldn't be punished if i do so. I pay money for xbox live so I can play these games fully online. Why do you want me to pay more money to experience these games fully online. If you know that making these new maps will cut off your people from using current features, then they should have made them free, or not make them at all, or not put them onto the matchmaking system. But they knew that no one would buy the maps once word got out that they were not as good as in Halo 1 and nostalgia wore off, so they effectively made it a must purchase. They can pull this off now because halo 2 is old, but if they try this on halo 3, they will get a rude awakening.

So there you have it.

As for the ERSB supporters, if your parents say its okay for you to play a title then the ESRB notice means nothing. 5 years old can LEGALLY play halo 2 online, as long as their parents are okay with it. So your arguments for the age limit means -blam!-.

  • 07.05.2007 9:02 AM PDT

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As far as having other things to spend 4 bux on, that seems like total BS. I have to pay for college, gas, etc. and 4 dollars is not the big of deal. find a job that you can work, that pays you well, and work there, 4 bux wont be such a big deal. also how do you pay for xbox live, which is 50 bux if you cannot afford the 4 bux for the new maps?


Correct, and its more of "I dont want to spend 4 bucks, which is going to turn out lie 7 when I get the bill after the additional charges." And you do not live my lifestyle, you dont know me personally, and you cannot say that its BS, cause its not. I am going to a top-nouch college and paying for dorms at 7g a semster minus the meal plans. I do not have a priority to spend 4 bucks on a pair of maps when I can put it to better use. Now that I have moved, I have to find a job after leaving the 2 i already worked in my previous location. Dont judge people, cause you cant and you suck at it.


i too am going to a top college, 15k a year, for room, and tuition. but really think about it, does 4.50 really matter when thousands of dollars are going into college? not really the difference wont ever be known.

as far as not needing a credit card, i did not know that people dont need credit cards anymore to make accounts, when i made mine i needed one.

  • 07.05.2007 9:56 AM PDT

We should'nt pay for the maps, bungie is making so much cash i don't think it'll make a difference. Also, the matchmaking is going really bad right now, and i think that making them free would just increase the popularity back and the fun either. And by the way, i don't think bungie should make that a big problem just for two maps!! and only around 80 days before halo 3. I mean c'mon. Anyway nobody will try to pay for them so why not put them free?

  • 07.05.2007 11:33 AM PDT
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Or if we have to pay for them, @ least let us use MS points. The whole first half of my summer (minus the Beta) was shot as far as H2 goes geez.....

  • 07.05.2007 12:30 PM PDT
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Wow, your a jerk. If a credit card doesn't work for you (You have a credit card on your account(with money), and it won't work) then you should have to wait like 4 months or so? just because someone CAN'T download maps doesn't make them poor.

  • 07.05.2007 4:27 PM PDT

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