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Subject: Come on, Is it really a noob combo or smart playing
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Its just a weapon combo like any other. In my opinion its just as easy to use as the sniper. It is a smart thinking combo, and I have no problem with it. The Sword is the real noob weapon, infinate ammo and the ability to lock on and lunge 10 yards is rediculous.

  • 07.16.2007 3:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: Viper7070
Using a method that doesn't allow your opponent to defend themself, at ALL, is just cowardly, and on top of that the method itself takes no skill, which is why most people hate it. Hell, I'd love it if tomorrow Bungie announced the PP is gone forever from matchmaking.

Is it not possible for them to tone down the homing ability in a patch? I wouldn't have a problem with it at all then. That crap follows you around corners for Christ's sake. It's like a built-in one hit kill gameshark code, which is why I hate it.

Mainly I don't use it because there's no challenge to it, you don't feel like you accomplished anything when they're dead, challenge is what makes a game fun. I like BR all the way, or snipe.
actualy there is a way to defend urself from the noob combo its pretty simple actualy all uv gotta do is grab a dual weild of any kind and wen the PP shot comes at u press melee at the rite time and ul throw ur second weapon at it and it will blok it kina like a wall

  • 07.16.2007 3:40 PM PDT
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i think its smart playing because anybody will try to kill at any means possible

  • 07.18.2007 12:58 PM PDT
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I can own you easily with a noob combo but i refuse im not cheap. I learned to play through halo1 and 2 without it thanks. Keep using it your really bad. Lrn2play. Im out.

  • 07.18.2007 1:18 PM PDT
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Yes. it is just the noob combo. I never use it. I think bungie even said that if you run around in MM w/ the noob combo, you are just a douche. LOL. Stop using it just to get fast kills. It is th sole reason beaver creek and elongation suck.

  • 07.18.2007 2:36 PM PDT

It completely ruins ranked games. That's why MLG only has human weapons on map, no plasma pistols or swords.

  • 07.18.2007 2:57 PM PDT
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plasma pistol and br is a evil combo

  • 07.18.2007 5:10 PM PDT
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I just played a game on beaver creek where someone used this combo for nearly the entire round. Go figure he got 1st place. Now I see why people hate it so much, it definitely needs to be toned down in the next update. If not, it'd better be fixed in Halo 3. As far as the original question, it's all of the above: cheap, smart, really annoying to be killed by, and cheap. Did I say cheap twice?

  • 07.30.2007 9:09 AM PDT
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It is easy to use and it isn't hard to get a headshot. It is just annoying to be killed by the same guy over and over again until his plasma pistol runs out of plasma just to go get another plasma pistol. It becomes a noob combo when they abuse it.

  • 07.30.2007 9:57 AM PDT

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noob combo is pretty cheap... I only use it if I have to, like if my team is down a few kills.

I'd rather lose in a BR duel or beat someone out in a BR duel.

  • 07.30.2007 9:58 AM PDT

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i think it's hilarious that the people are so upset by this combo. is it really that bad? i think it sucks when i get plasma pistoled and battle-rifled all the time, but it sucks just as bad to get rocketed every 5 seconds or sniped or sworded. they're all weapons in the game and you have to learn to get around them instead of -blam!-ing all the time. i refuse to call it a noob combo because half the people who just started playing this game cannot even use it. i see them pick up the rockets or sword more than anything. but yeah, keep complaing about the combo because it's sooooo cheap. i think using glitches in the game is cheap, not using a combo of two weapons placed in the game : /

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  • 07.30.2007 10:48 AM PDT
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Are you calling Walshy and every other MLG pro a n00b? cause they use it all the time. and during tournaments they consider the PP a power wep which it is, if you control it you have an advantage over the other team just like any other power wep. Also I think it takes a little bit more skill than a sword or rocket. because you have to get a headshot the first shot because they are usually running for cover. If i see one i pick it up and I will use it, but yes if thats all a person uses it is kinda cheap and lowers the quality of the game. but for some clutch kills here and there its alright with me.

  • 07.30.2007 10:57 AM PDT
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Ok i have used said "Noob combo" many times, and i have been killed by it many times. And i think that it is just a really smart combo. And its not as easy as it seems because even though the plasma shot can lock on, it can be stopped by rocks and such, also, the headshot on the first shotaint the easiest thing in halo either. If the noob combo is cheap, then what about BXR, Double shot, quad shot, double melee, etc? Are they cheap too? I dont think so, and if u think its cheap, its probably becuz u always get killed by it or u cant use it. So to all halo2 players out there, i say, go ahead, use it, becuz anything you can do to stay alive and get kills is smart playing.

One other point, super bouncing can also be applied to this theory, becuase everyone in the game can do it, its just a matter of knowing how, same as BXR or double shot, so if those arent considered cheating, why is super bouncing?

  • 08.14.2007 4:51 PM PDT
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Using the "noob" combo is absolutely smart playing. The one of the most basic things about combat is that you use any and all advantages you have to achieve victory. Sure, it may be annoying but it's certainly not invincible, especially for a team that works together. For all of you who will or have said the combo is unfair and noobish, by the same token you would have to argue that Sniper Rifles and BR's are noobish as well because they provide the same advantage of a noob combo. Think about this. When you play Halo you're fighting a war. It may be a virtual, fantasy war, but it's still a war. All wars are decided by "unfair" advantages. Take the Romans for example. They conquered by having the most advanced society, the best tacticians, the best weaponry, the best trained soldiers, and an unmatched highway system that allowed the army to travel quickly throughout the empire. By the same argument you employ against the "noob" combo the Romans should have given up all of these advantages to the Gauls and the Carthaginians and the Spanish and the Britons.

Remember: All's fair in love and war.

  • 08.14.2007 7:03 PM PDT
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i mean why do people call bxring and double shotting cheatinf IF ITS IN THE GAME, USE IT!!! thats what i believe in.

  • 08.14.2007 7:08 PM PDT
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Plasma Pistol/ Battle Rifle combo may be easy to "use" but its easily avoided as well, round a corner, jump off a small edge, kill them first. Its just strategical more than anything else In the game I think.

  • 08.14.2007 8:06 PM PDT

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Well, I think it's n00bish. It's certainly legal, but it's cheap, and pushing the limit. You won't make many friends.
What I do is use it only in a game that I'm already losing and especially want to win. And i'd never use it if I outnumber the other team. It's not very fair otherwise.
PP and SMG combo is fair, however. PP & Magnum is borderline.

  • 08.14.2007 8:51 PM PDT
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If it takes down an overshield, locks on to people, takes no skill, lowers popularity like it's out of style, and is regarded as the same cheapness as bouncing and standbying, then the real question is "Should it even be considered as a kill?". I personaly think not.

  • 08.14.2007 9:20 PM PDT

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I don't go looking for a plasma pistol when I have a BR or visa-versa, but if it's available, I have no problem using it. I don't see anything wrong with taking full advantage of the weapons available on the map.

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  • 08.14.2007 9:32 PM PDT
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no it's a noob combo do you see MLG using it noop in halo 3 there is no noob combo, well there is but it doesn' work

  • 08.14.2007 9:32 PM PDT
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It takes as much skill to use the combo as to do a search on bungie to see the countless threads on it.

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Posted by: blahdude1303
no it's a noob combo do you see MLG using it noop in halo 3 there is no noob combo, well there is but it doesn' work


In MLG sanctuary with some previous settings, there were noob combos. MLG DID use it. Way to fantasize about pros and know nothing. kthx.

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  • 08.14.2007 10:37 PM PDT

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I say that if you use something the way Bungie originally intended it to work (unlike BXR, super bouncing, etc) then its fair game and I use it.

That said, it really pisses me off when someone blasts me with it.

I usually stick to one rule with the Plasma Pistol: don't use it when you outnumber the other team...that's just -blam!- up.

  • 08.14.2007 11:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: RhythmKiller
It's just called that because it's so easy to use I think. I wouldn't say you could call it playing smart, it's not a hard decision to use such an easy and powerful combo.


With it being an "easy and powerful combo" are people considered noobs for passing it up? I see people with BR's pass the PP all the time and I snag it right up most of the time. I have only recently started using it on a regular basis, mostly b/c it has been used on me so much. What I hate most of all is after getting an overshield (added protection) and it takes the entire shield down just as easily. I'm amazed at just how far it can lock on even when I know they didn't have a red reticule it still steers itself my way.

  • 08.14.2007 11:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: Viper7070
Using a method that doesn't allow your opponent to defend themself, at ALL, is just cowardly,

i've said this before, that if the above is true then....
NOOBS USE SNIPERS

being shot at from a mile away by a sniper? the ultimate cowards weapon and in my eyes the noobiest!
it takes no skill to shoot someone in the head once when they don't even know you are there, and being spawn sniped is by far more annoying than being plasma/BR'd.

  • 08.15.2007 1:04 AM PDT

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Plasma pistol = shield drain strategy
Plasma pistol + beatdown = deserving if they let you get that close...
Plasma pistol + SMG = skill if u manage to kill a br with that
Plasma pistol + Br = noob because thats death from half way across the map in less than .5 seconds
see common sense, noob combo is called that for a reason, 'Combo' with out the br it's just another weapon.

  • 08.15.2007 3:08 AM PDT