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Subject: Come on, Is it really a noob combo or smart playing

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i only use it to hear the greatest sound in the world

the sudden shout of anger as my opponent dies

FTW

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light of speed, u really shouldnt b on the forums because the only people that dont link their gamertag to their name are the people that have -blam!- stats so they're too embarrased to do it, go cut ur self

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People are foolish for not using it. If it's that powerful of a weapon, and it helps you achieve a victory, then use it.

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Posted by: FKxPandemic
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people call all power weapons "noob" weapons, noob combo, noob cannon (rockets) noob stick (sword) etc.


Funny thing is that it takes skill to use rockets and sword. The noob combo, all you have to do is line up the bolt of plasma and shoot the guy once in the head.


LOL.

Shooting a guy once in the head, is just as hard as getting a rocket kill. Neither take much skill

People who complain about it fail. Its a weapon on the map, you can use it, so do. if you choose not to, you have no right to complain about the people that do. If you CARE that much about it, pick it up, and keep it secondary just so they can't use it. If I have a BR w/o another Power weapon, and I walk over the PP, you bet I'm picking it up.

Not to mention, its not that hard to dodge at all, unless you're way out in the open.


So you're saying...it takes skill to get one headshot...on a 3 shot burst-weapon...that has minor autoaim...and can be used to sweep snipe in this situation?

Skill...one headshot...ever played SWAT?

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It's cheap, easy to do, and annoying. I never use it.

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I personally never use this combo and get very annoyed when its used on me, but ..its in the game and you have to take into consideration that people enjoy and are better at different weapons and weapon combos...so no, i wouldn't consider it "noobish"

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Posted by: nickyfour92
i only use it to hear the greatest sound in the world

the sudden shout of anger as my opponent dies

FTW


Exactly

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Posted by: nickyfour92
i only use it to hear the greatest sound in the world

the sudden shout of anger as my opponent dies

FTW


Exactly


The best is the postgame after games on Beaver Creek where kids, who used the combo just as much as anybody else, claim the only reason they lost was because the other team comboed it.

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Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: RL King
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people call all power weapons "noob" weapons, noob combo, noob cannon (rockets) noob stick (sword) etc.


Funny thing is that it takes skill to use rockets and sword. The noob combo, all you have to do is line up the bolt of plasma and shoot the guy once in the head.


LOL.

Shooting a guy once in the head, is just as hard as getting a rocket kill. Neither take much skill

People who complain about it fail. Its a weapon on the map, you can use it, so do. if you choose not to, you have no right to complain about the people that do. If you CARE that much about it, pick it up, and keep it secondary just so they can't use it. If I have a BR w/o another Power weapon, and I walk over the PP, you bet I'm picking it up.

Not to mention, its not that hard to dodge at all, unless you're way out in the open.


So you're saying...it takes skill to get one headshot...on a 3 shot burst-weapon...that has minor autoaim...and can be used to sweep snipe in this situation?

Skill...one headshot...ever played SWAT?



Obv, taking a dump takes skill.

It doesn;t take much at all, but I guess you missed the whole point. Neither does killing one person with a rocket.

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Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: RL King
Posted by: TheNewDarkStorm
people call all power weapons "noob" weapons, noob combo, noob cannon (rockets) noob stick (sword) etc.


Funny thing is that it takes skill to use rockets and sword. The noob combo, all you have to do is line up the bolt of plasma and shoot the guy once in the head.


LOL.

Shooting a guy once in the head, is just as hard as getting a rocket kill. Neither take much skill

People who complain about it fail. Its a weapon on the map, you can use it, so do. if you choose not to, you have no right to complain about the people that do. If you CARE that much about it, pick it up, and keep it secondary just so they can't use it. If I have a BR w/o another Power weapon, and I walk over the PP, you bet I'm picking it up.

Not to mention, its not that hard to dodge at all, unless you're way out in the open.


So you're saying...it takes skill to get one headshot...on a 3 shot burst-weapon...that has minor autoaim...and can be used to sweep snipe in this situation?

Skill...one headshot...ever played SWAT?



Obv, taking a dump takes skill.

It doesn;t take much at all, but I guess you missed the whole point. Neither does killing one person with a rocket.


It takes skill to use a rocket against a guy across the battle field on maps like Coag.

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Posted by: RL King
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: RL King
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: RL King
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: RL King
Posted by: TheNewDarkStorm
people call all power weapons "noob" weapons, noob combo, noob cannon (rockets) noob stick (sword) etc.


Funny thing is that it takes skill to use rockets and sword. The noob combo, all you have to do is line up the bolt of plasma and shoot the guy once in the head.


LOL.

Shooting a guy once in the head, is just as hard as getting a rocket kill. Neither take much skill


Ever try using a rocket against a gauss hog or a tank or even agaisnt a BR guy at longer ranges?


Would the noob combo be effective against a gauss hog, or a tank. At longer ranges, I've 4 shotted kids before they got the BR shot off from their noob combo.


Ever think that maybe they were noobs? And actually, in Halo 3, the PP will be effective against vehicles ;)


....I can 4-shot them, making them noobs? I can 4-shot people that are quite good, and better than me actually.

Way to bring up an irrelevant point, since we are talking about Halo2.


You don't get it do you? Your saying the combo is pointless because you, just you, can pull a 4 shot off before they pull off that 1 BR shot? If that is the case they obviously aren't that good, or did this happen once and you are recalling it?


please, tell me where I said the combo was pointless....Oh, yes, I didn't. This entire discussion was about how rockets require just as little skill as the combo.

So, obviously, you don't get it. The combo is a power weapon, but its not unbeatable, and just as easy to beat as say, Rockets. That's what this entire discussion was about. i don't know where you came up with it being pointless......

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Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: RL King
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: RL King
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: RL King
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: RL King
Posted by: TheNewDarkStorm
people call all power weapons "noob" weapons, noob combo, noob cannon (rockets) noob stick (sword) etc.


Funny thing is that it takes skill to use rockets and sword. The noob combo, all you have to do is line up the bolt of plasma and shoot the guy once in the head.


LOL.

Shooting a guy once in the head, is just as hard as getting a rocket kill. Neither take much skill


Ever try using a rocket against a gauss hog or a tank or even agaisnt a BR guy at longer ranges?


Would the noob combo be effective against a gauss hog, or a tank. At longer ranges, I've 4 shotted kids before they got the BR shot off from their noob combo.


Ever think that maybe they were noobs? And actually, in Halo 3, the PP will be effective against vehicles ;)


....I can 4-shot them, making them noobs? I can 4-shot people that are quite good, and better than me actually.

Way to bring up an irrelevant point, since we are talking about Halo2.


You don't get it do you? Your saying the combo is pointless because you, just you, can pull a 4 shot off before they pull off that 1 BR shot? If that is the case they obviously aren't that good, or did this happen once and you are recalling it?


please, tell me where I said the combo was pointless....Oh, yes, I didn't. This entire discussion was about how rockets require just as little skill as the combo.

So, obviously, you don't get it. The combo is a power weapon, but its not unbeatable, and just as easy to beat as say, Rockets. That's what this entire discussion was about. i don't know where you came up with it being pointless......


Isn't it obvious when you said that you could easily 4-shoot people with the combo that you are implying that it is useless, at least to people like you?

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Posted by: RL King
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: RL King
Posted by: TheNewDarkStorm
people call all power weapons "noob" weapons, noob combo, noob cannon (rockets) noob stick (sword) etc.


Funny thing is that it takes skill to use rockets and sword. The noob combo, all you have to do is line up the bolt of plasma and shoot the guy once in the head.


LOL.

Shooting a guy once in the head, is just as hard as getting a rocket kill. Neither take much skill

People who complain about it fail. Its a weapon on the map, you can use it, so do. if you choose not to, you have no right to complain about the people that do. If you CARE that much about it, pick it up, and keep it secondary just so they can't use it. If I have a BR w/o another Power weapon, and I walk over the PP, you bet I'm picking it up.

Not to mention, its not that hard to dodge at all, unless you're way out in the open.


So you're saying...it takes skill to get one headshot...on a 3 shot burst-weapon...that has minor autoaim...and can be used to sweep snipe in this situation?

Skill...one headshot...ever played SWAT?



Obv, taking a dump takes skill.

It doesn;t take much at all, but I guess you missed the whole point. Neither does killing one person with a rocket.


It takes skill to use a rocket against a guy across the battle field on maps like Coag.


Again, try to noob combo someone across Coag.............

Every situation you've come up with for the rocket taking more skill, is just as hard to do with the noob combo, therefore negating it completely.

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Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: RL King
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: RL King
Posted by: TheNewDarkStorm
people call all power weapons "noob" weapons, noob combo, noob cannon (rockets) noob stick (sword) etc.


Funny thing is that it takes skill to use rockets and sword. The noob combo, all you have to do is line up the bolt of plasma and shoot the guy once in the head.


LOL.

Shooting a guy once in the head, is just as hard as getting a rocket kill. Neither take much skill

People who complain about it fail. Its a weapon on the map, you can use it, so do. if you choose not to, you have no right to complain about the people that do. If you CARE that much about it, pick it up, and keep it secondary just so they can't use it. If I have a BR w/o another Power weapon, and I walk over the PP, you bet I'm picking it up.

Not to mention, its not that hard to dodge at all, unless you're way out in the open.


So you're saying...it takes skill to get one headshot...on a 3 shot burst-weapon...that has minor autoaim...and can be used to sweep snipe in this situation?

Skill...one headshot...ever played SWAT?



Obv, taking a dump takes skill.

It doesn;t take much at all, but I guess you missed the whole point. Neither does killing one person with a rocket.


It takes skill to use a rocket against a guy across the battle field on maps like Coag.


Again, try to noob combo someone across Coag.............

Every situation you've come up with for the rocket taking more skill, is just as hard to do with the noob combo, therefore negating it completely.


I don't think the PP has that kind of range in the first place buddy :)

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Posted by: RL King
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: RL King
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: RL King
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: RL King
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: RL King
Posted by: TheNewDarkStorm
people call all power weapons "noob" weapons, noob combo, noob cannon (rockets) noob stick (sword) etc.


Funny thing is that it takes skill to use rockets and sword. The noob combo, all you have to do is line up the bolt of plasma and shoot the guy once in the head.


LOL.

Shooting a guy once in the head, is just as hard as getting a rocket kill. Neither take much skill


Ever try using a rocket against a gauss hog or a tank or even agaisnt a BR guy at longer ranges?


Would the noob combo be effective against a gauss hog, or a tank. At longer ranges, I've 4 shotted kids before they got the BR shot off from their noob combo.


Ever think that maybe they were noobs? And actually, in Halo 3, the PP will be effective against vehicles ;)


....I can 4-shot them, making them noobs? I can 4-shot people that are quite good, and better than me actually.

Way to bring up an irrelevant point, since we are talking about Halo2.


You don't get it do you? Your saying the combo is pointless because you, just you, can pull a 4 shot off before they pull off that 1 BR shot? If that is the case they obviously aren't that good, or did this happen once and you are recalling it?


please, tell me where I said the combo was pointless....Oh, yes, I didn't. This entire discussion was about how rockets require just as little skill as the combo.

So, obviously, you don't get it. The combo is a power weapon, but its not unbeatable, and just as easy to beat as say, Rockets. That's what this entire discussion was about. i don't know where you came up with it being pointless......


Isn't it obvious when you said that you could easily 4-shoot people with the combo?


How many points are you gonna try to make by putting words in my mouth, I'm just wondering.

"I've 4 shotted kids before they got the BR shot off from their noob combo."

Where did I say it happened every time. I've said its happened. I never said it happened easily either.

So if I said I've stuck someone across Lockout, you would interpret that as I easily can stick people across lockout?

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Posted by: RL King
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: RL King
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: RL King
Posted by: TheNewDarkStorm
people call all power weapons "noob" weapons, noob combo, noob cannon (rockets) noob stick (sword) etc.


Funny thing is that it takes skill to use rockets and sword. The noob combo, all you have to do is line up the bolt of plasma and shoot the guy once in the head.


LOL.

Shooting a guy once in the head, is just as hard as getting a rocket kill. Neither take much skill

People who complain about it fail. Its a weapon on the map, you can use it, so do. if you choose not to, you have no right to complain about the people that do. If you CARE that much about it, pick it up, and keep it secondary just so they can't use it. If I have a BR w/o another Power weapon, and I walk over the PP, you bet I'm picking it up.

Not to mention, its not that hard to dodge at all, unless you're way out in the open.


So you're saying...it takes skill to get one headshot...on a 3 shot burst-weapon...that has minor autoaim...and can be used to sweep snipe in this situation?

Skill...one headshot...ever played SWAT?



Obv, taking a dump takes skill.

It doesn;t take much at all, but I guess you missed the whole point. Neither does killing one person with a rocket.


It takes skill to use a rocket against a guy across the battle field on maps like Coag.


Again, try to noob combo someone across Coag.............

Every situation you've come up with for the rocket taking more skill, is just as hard to do with the noob combo, therefore negating it completely.


I don't think the PP has that kind of range in the first place buddy :)


Really, but Rockets do? Its still irrelevant though. It doesn't prove anything to your initial argument that rockets take more skill than the noob combo.

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Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: RL King
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: RL King
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: RL King
Posted by: TheNewDarkStorm
people call all power weapons "noob" weapons, noob combo, noob cannon (rockets) noob stick (sword) etc.


Funny thing is that it takes skill to use rockets and sword. The noob combo, all you have to do is line up the bolt of plasma and shoot the guy once in the head.


LOL.

Shooting a guy once in the head, is just as hard as getting a rocket kill. Neither take much skill

People who complain about it fail. Its a weapon on the map, you can use it, so do. if you choose not to, you have no right to complain about the people that do. If you CARE that much about it, pick it up, and keep it secondary just so they can't use it. If I have a BR w/o another Power weapon, and I walk over the PP, you bet I'm picking it up.

Not to mention, its not that hard to dodge at all, unless you're way out in the open.


So you're saying...it takes skill to get one headshot...on a 3 shot burst-weapon...that has minor autoaim...and can be used to sweep snipe in this situation?

Skill...one headshot...ever played SWAT?



Obv, taking a dump takes skill.

It doesn;t take much at all, but I guess you missed the whole point. Neither does killing one person with a rocket.


It takes skill to use a rocket against a guy across the battle field on maps like Coag.


Again, try to noob combo someone across Coag.............

Every situation you've come up with for the rocket taking more skill, is just as hard to do with the noob combo, therefore negating it completely.


I don't think the PP has that kind of range in the first place buddy :)


Really, but Rockets do? Its still irrelevant though. It doesn't prove anything to your initial argument that rockets take more skill than the noob combo.


Fine I'll say it this way, imagine trying to use a rocket against a guy with the noob combo. By the time you turn to look at him, you are dead, it takes skill to counter and blow him up, especially at longer ranges. It takes skill because you need timing and good judgement to make your only rocket count.

[Edited on 07.06.2007 2:08 PM PDT]

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On an open map like coag a noob combo would beat the rockets from mid-long range.

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Posted by: Done DL
On an open map like coag a noob combo would beat the rockets from mid-long range.


Exactly what I'm saying.

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Posted by: RL King
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: RL King
Posted by: FKxPandemic
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Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: RL King
Posted by: TheNewDarkStorm
people call all power weapons "noob" weapons, noob combo, noob cannon (rockets) noob stick (sword) etc.





Funny thing is that it takes skill to use rockets and sword. The noob combo, all you have to do is line up the bolt of plasma and shoot the guy once in the head.


LOL.

Shooting a guy once in the head, is just as hard as getting a rocket kill. Neither take much skill

People who complain about it fail. Its a weapon on the map, you can use it, so do. if you choose not to, you have no right to complain about the people that do. If you CARE that much about it, pick it up, and keep it secondary just so they can't use it. If I have a BR w/o another Power weapon, and I walk over the PP, you bet I'm picking it up.

Not to mention, its not that hard to dodge at all, unless you're way out in the open.


So you're saying...it takes skill to get one headshot...on a 3 shot burst-weapon...that has minor autoaim...and can be used to sweep snipe in this situation?

Skill...one headshot...ever played SWAT?



Obv, taking a dump takes skill.

It doesn;t take much at all, but I guess you missed the whole point. Neither does killing one person with a rocket.


It takes skill to use a rocket against a guy across the battle field on maps like Coag.


Again, try to noob combo someone across Coag.............

Every situation you've come up with for the rocket taking more skill, is just as hard to do with the noob combo, therefore negating it completely.


I don't think the PP has that kind of range in the first place buddy :)


Really, but Rockets do? Its still irrelevant though. It doesn't prove anything to your initial argument that rockets take more skill than the noob combo.


Fine I'll say it this way, imagine trying to use a rocket against a guy with the noob combo. By the time you turn to look at him, you are dead, it takes skill to counter and blow him up, especially at close ranges. It takes skill because you need timing and good judgement to make your only rocket count.


yes, I'll give you that. But look at the opposite. A rocket guy walks up behind a comboer, and the comboer never sees him. As we all know, the best way to dodge rockets would be to jump. Well he doesn't see him, its an easy shot for the rocket guy. If they both see each other at the same time, the rocket guy could probably get a shot off, but would maybe die before it hit, and they both end up dying.

It's essentially all about situation. Each has its advantages in certain situations. As DL said, on Coag, in the open, the noob combo would win. if there was cover, the rocket would have the advantage. All in all, neither requires muck skill at all, since there's so much room for error, with the plasma's tracking, and the rocket's huge splash damage.

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Posted by: FKxPandemic
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Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: RL King
Posted by: TheNewDarkStorm
people call all power weapons "noob" weapons, noob combo, noob cannon (rockets) noob stick (sword) etc.





Funny thing is that it takes skill to use rockets and sword. The noob combo, all you have to do is line up the bolt of plasma and shoot the guy once in the head.


LOL.

Shooting a guy once in the head, is just as hard as getting a rocket kill. Neither take much skill

People who complain about it fail. Its a weapon on the map, you can use it, so do. if you choose not to, you have no right to complain about the people that do. If you CARE that much about it, pick it up, and keep it secondary just so they can't use it. If I have a BR w/o another Power weapon, and I walk over the PP, you bet I'm picking it up.

Not to mention, its not that hard to dodge at all, unless you're way out in the open.


So you're saying...it takes skill to get one headshot...on a 3 shot burst-weapon...that has minor autoaim...and can be used to sweep snipe in this situation?

Skill...one headshot...ever played SWAT?



Obv, taking a dump takes skill.

It doesn;t take much at all, but I guess you missed the whole point. Neither does killing one person with a rocket.


It takes skill to use a rocket against a guy across the battle field on maps like Coag.


Again, try to noob combo someone across Coag.............

Every situation you've come up with for the rocket taking more skill, is just as hard to do with the noob combo, therefore negating it completely.


I don't think the PP has that kind of range in the first place buddy :)


Really, but Rockets do? Its still irrelevant though. It doesn't prove anything to your initial argument that rockets take more skill than the noob combo.


Fine I'll say it this way, imagine trying to use a rocket against a guy with the noob combo. By the time you turn to look at him, you are dead, it takes skill to counter and blow him up, especially at close ranges. It takes skill because you need timing and good judgement to make your only rocket count.


yes, I'll give you that. But look at the opposite. A rocket guy walks up behind a comboer, and the comboer never sees him. As we all know, the best way to dodge rockets would be to jump. Well he doesn't see him, its an easy shot for the rocket guy. If they both see each other at the same time, the rocket guy could probably get a shot off, but would maybe die before it hit, and they both end up dying.


Well if you put it that way, any weapon could take out a comboer from behind like that. And you're right, the situation does matter.

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Posted by: Prince2007
I know everyone hates the plasma pistol/Battle Rifle (PP/BR) combo but is it really a noob's choice of weapon's or noob combo or a smart choice. The combo is great for short, mid and long range, in most cases you can out kill someone with a sword with a plasma punch (Plasma shot and melee) before they've had a chance to lock on or swing twice and over long range apart from a sniper nothin' kills quicker. Can you also really call someone a noob if all there kills are with head shots or a high majority of them anyway with this combo most peolpe i find are quite skilled and usually kill me with one burst from the BR to my head not 2/3 bursts to the body. Has it got the name Noob combo for the fact people hate being owned by it i know i do. Thinking about it i wouldnt leave behind a rocket launcher, or miss an overshield to snap up some quick easy kills but usually never pick up the noob combo (Whick is quicker than anything killing someone with an overshield) partly 'cause hearing the constant moaning about your a noob but mostly just never tried it.

Saying all this i love that its been toned down for Halo 3 will make games more balanced, but its there now why not use it.



Ok here it goes...They call it a noob combo when come one else has these weapons, but this does not make them a noob. This is a way of playing not a way of noobs. So to all of you people that think this is unfair well its not. Would bungie alow it into the game if it was unfair? THE AWNSER IS NO! Exept for the scarab gun if that was in multiplayer then it would be crazy. They put the scarab gun into single player for fun.

  • 07.06.2007 2:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: nickyfour92
i only use it to hear the greatest sound in the world

the sudden shout of anger as my opponent dies

FTW


Ode to the sounds of Halo...

"OH -blam!-!!!"

"-blam!-"

[Edited on 07.06.2007 2:41 PM PDT]

  • 07.06.2007 2:41 PM PDT

i think ANY use of the plasma pistol is nooby. a one shot homing shield dropper, takes no skill. we already have the sword, snipe, shotty, n rocket launcher that kills in one shot, can't we just let this one sit on the ground? if you want one hit wonders, pick something up that requires at least a little skill, thats my opinion.

  • 07.06.2007 3:12 PM PDT

Greatest of all time

quote pyramids ftw!

  • 07.06.2007 3:16 PM PDT