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Subject: Come on, Is it really a noob combo or smart playing
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Posted by: nickyfour92
quote pyramids ftw!


Nah, they weren't quote pyramids, they were back and forth statements.

  • 07.06.2007 3:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: RL King
Posted by: nickyfour92
quote pyramids ftw!


Nah, they weren't quote pyramids, they were back and forth statements.


i liked both your arguments xD

  • 07.06.2007 3:30 PM PDT

SiZe MaTtErS!!!!!

Posted by: angry0lbgrampa
yes.


.....in my opinion the only thing noobier is modding.



This is why your Kill to death ratio is under 1 lol why do you even look in these forums if you havent played since april!!!

  • 07.06.2007 4:07 PM PDT

Die all covie bastards!
*suidice difficulty pic*

its a noob's combo.
my only word of advice is: try BXRing.
its fun, hard, and cheeky.
I've tried double and quad shotting, but BXRing is the only thing that i grasped.
LOL TAKE IT EASY

  • 07.06.2007 4:23 PM PDT
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The first person who came up with it was smart

everyone else is a noob

  • 07.06.2007 4:27 PM PDT
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I only use if its there. I dont see any reason why not to. Not bragging but I can get my kills just fine without it. I have faith in my 4 shot to get me out of the majority of situations. So no, I dont think its noobish. It doesnt take much skill to use most people can kill almost as easy without it.

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the only ones who complain about it are the ones who run around in the open like morons and get ran over by people who know that Halo 2 is a game of "map control." the combo is just as balanced as every other power weapon in the game; Halo 2 doesn't take much skill at all to aim, it's about map control, and if you control weapon and power up spawns the entire game you're gonna win. so whoever is talking about "oh it doesn't take skill blah blah," it takes pretty much the same amount of skill as everything else in the game; just because you're getting beaten by it doesn't mean it doesn't take skill.

  • 07.06.2007 4:58 PM PDT

Posted by: MATTtheMAN
the only ones who complain about it are the ones who run around in the open like morons and get ran over by people who know that Halo 2 is a game of "map control." the combo is just as balanced as every other power weapon in the game; Halo 2 doesn't take much skill at all to aim, it's about map control, and if you control weapon and power up spawns the entire game you're gonna win. so whoever is talking about "oh it doesn't take skill blah blah," it takes pretty much the same amount of skill as everything else in the game; just because you're getting beaten by it doesn't mean it doesn't take skill.

What are you smoking? It takes ZERO skill to use the BR/PP combo. Oh look I shoot you with a HOMING shot that takes down all your shields and then pop you in the head SWAT style with the BR. That's nub-tastic! The PP and SMG isn't bad because they have to be near you to use it. Whoever thinks that spawn-killing is skill is also retarded. Halo 2 is a game of strategy not map or weapon control. A bunch of mediocre players with all the weapons but no strategy against a group of skilled players will get owned every time.

  • 07.06.2007 9:35 PM PDT
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I just strafe behind a wall and poof thier little charg of doom is powerless.

  • 07.06.2007 10:09 PM PDT
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if you think it's cowardly, you must never use the sniper rifle, rockets, or sword. depending on how they're used they're all cowardly!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 07.06.2007 11:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: Fatteous
if you think it's cowardly, you must never use the sniper rifle, rockets, or sword. depending on how they're used they're all cowardly!!!!!!!!!!!

with that thinking i guess someone who doesn't use any weapons and only melees is a "non-cowardly" player....thats just stupid...i'm sure your not going to that extreme but even what you suggested is stupid.

  • 07.07.2007 7:01 AM PDT
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Posted by: Viper7070
Using a method that doesn't allow your opponent to defend themself, at ALL, is just cowardly, and on top of that the method itself takes no skill, which is why most people hate it. Hell, I'd love it if tomorrow Bungie announced the PP is gone forever from matchmaking.

Is it not possible for them to tone down the homing ability in a patch? I wouldn't have a problem with it at all then. That crap follows you around corners for Christ's sake. It's like a built-in one hit kill gameshark code, which is why I hate it.

Mainly I don't use it because there's no challenge to it, you don't feel like you accomplished anything when they're dead, challenge is what makes a game fun. I like BR all the way, or snipe.


The tracking is toned down in H3. However, we've got H2 and its been out for a while now so lets just remember that things aren't going to change. Their
focus is H3 only. With that being said.....

-Theres nothing noob about it. If you play by a non existant honor system then you deserve to lose for limiting your options. The best players know how to counter anything, use all weapons well, and use discretion. I've seen people who know a guy has a sword run at him over and over again, same with the PP/BR, use cover and find another way to take em down. The noob combo only works against 1 person. If people used teamwork, it wouldn't be a problem. 4<1+1+1+1.

If its in the game, use it. If you wanna play by some honor system thats fine but that means 2 things. 1. Don't -blam!- if you lose. 2. It doesn't make you better or more honorable to use it. Do you think MM is a popularity contest? Do you think this is feudal japan? There is no reason to limit yourself.

If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.
- Sun Tzu, the Art of War

  • 07.07.2007 8:12 AM PDT
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Halo 2 is a game of strategy not map or weapon control.

Weapon control comes from strategy. You have to kill the other team first, take the good weapons and get into position to control the power weapons. That usually takes a team working together to pull that off.

  • 07.07.2007 8:14 AM PDT
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Smart playing because why else would the plasma pistol would be in there? It's there so its not n00b. Just because you get pwned by it everysingle time doesn't meen it is noobish. It means you either stink or your not halo smart. Every time im here I see "sword is to strong" or "bungie take this and that out"
Just chill out! I use the combo and I don't care it gets me some kills so its effeicent

  • 07.07.2007 8:16 AM PDT

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Posted by:[quote]Halo 2 is a game of strategy not map or weapon control.

That is the opposite of what strategy is.

So your saying strategy is running out into the open throwing grenades and shooting like crazy? Well that sure as hell isn't strategy. Strategy is knowing how to put yourself into a position that keeps your opponent from killing you and making it easier to kill your opponent. Weapon control is needed because if you don't grab the power weapons guess who is gunna grab them....

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  • 07.07.2007 8:17 AM PDT
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I hope you mean pistol/smg.

  • 07.07.2007 8:29 AM PDT
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a noob combo is bxb or bxr, people who need to cheat to win are noobs.

  • 07.07.2007 8:33 AM PDT
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its a cheap tactic using the plasma pistole and battle rifle combo, i may use it once a match if i have the wepons, but i wouldnt use it for all my kills

  • 07.07.2007 8:55 AM PDT

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Posted by:[quote]Halo 2 is a game of strategy not map or weapon control.

That is the opposite of what strategy is.

So your saying strategy is running out into the open throwing grenades and shooting like crazy? Well that sure as hell isn't strategy. Strategy is knowing how to put yourself into a position that keeps your opponent from killing you and making it easier to kill your opponent. Weapon control is needed because if you don't grab the power weapons guess who is gunna grab them....


Wow. Can you read at all? Yeah I run out and frelling lob grenades and spin around in a circle firing a single SMG. No, I go find the weapons I'm GOOD with not just run for the first rocket launcher or sword I see. Usually I grab a BR and take up a position to lay down fire. If I happen across a "power" weapon, sure I'll pick it up. But if I know I'm not good with said weapon, what I do is pick up the power weapon and then drop it for a team mate. I'm better with base weapons anyhow. The only weapon I've found I've gotten skill at is the rockets. I know exactly when to fire off that homed rocket to do the maximum damage. I've also found that sniping is a skill that I don't currently posses I don't posses the required patience for such a task. You're just stupid for insuating that just because I don't advocate using the newb combo that I'm a horrible player.

  • 07.07.2007 9:24 AM PDT

Posted by: XxARKmasterxX
Smart playing because why else would the plasma pistol would be in there? It's there so its not n00b. Just because you get pwned by it everysingle time doesn't mean it is noobish. It means you either stink or your not halo smart. Every time im here I see "sword is to strong" or "bungie take this and that out"
Just chill out! I use the combo and I don't care it gets me some kills so its effeicent



There's about two ways to defend yourself against PP/BR combo. Get hit and die or evade the PP shot. Now if the guy shoots you from behind with the PP shot (which of course homes in on you while you're running) then you're screwed. And that's how most people use it. As a way to make it one giant game of SWAT. Just beacuse you get killed by the newb combo does NOT mean you stink. It means the other player is too lazy or too poor of a player to pick up something that takes more skill. The sword does take skill, you have to know when to use it and zip and when to put it away in favor of another weapon. Same with the rockets, shotgun, and sniper rifle. The PP/BR and the other PP weapon combos take the skill and fun out of Halo 2. Thus why in H3 the PP's homing is alot more general and is easier to escape. Because Bungie recognized the fact that the PP was being exploited.

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  • 07.07.2007 9:28 AM PDT

no, my gamertag doesnt mean i am in MLG. It states that I am an MLG terminator.. terminating MLG .. get it ?

Posted by: Prince2007
@GezaB forgot to add quote

the same can be said for the sword, but there are players that can hold the sword on lockout for the whole match gettin' many kills which in my eyes takes skill or those that get 0,1 or 2 kills. Is there a point when it becomes skilled. Is there a point when u can call some skilled with the noob combo lets say in a team slayer match they get 20 kills 18 of which are head shots and they died twice.



ya ... i think you think too much of head shots in halo 2. How hard is it to get a head shot in halo 2? Its very easy. Almost as easy as using the noob combo because most people who would normally get out BRed by the person they are combo-ing yet they still manage to get one head shot kill becasue you dont need to be a good player to get a head shot in halo 2 with the BR. Halo 3 ---- talk about balance =)---- so, it is called the noob combo because everyone can use it ... it easier used than avoided... and your a BK if you try and justify that it isn't a newbish weapon. You can say you use it all the time Blah blah blah about strategy and it being an outlet for ur bad Br skills but atleast admit that it is newbish since everyone can use it =)

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  • 07.07.2007 10:10 AM PDT
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Posted by: XxARKmasterxX
Smart playing because why else would the plasma pistol would be in there? It's there so its not n00b. Just because you get pwned by it everysingle time doesn't mean it is noobish. It means you either stink or your not halo smart. Every time im here I see "sword is to strong" or "bungie take this and that out"
Just chill out! I use the combo and I don't care it gets me some kills so its effeicent



There's about two ways to defend yourself against PP/BR combo. Get hit and die or evade the PP shot. Now if the guy shoots you from behind with the PP shot (which of course homes in on you while you're running) then you're screwed. And that's how most people use it. As a way to make it one giant game of SWAT. Just beacuse you get killed by the newb combo does NOT mean you stink. It means the other player is too lazy or too poor of a player to pick up something that takes more skill. The sword does take skill, you have to know when to use it and zip and when to put it away in favor of another weapon. Same with the rockets, shotgun, and sniper rifle. The PP/BR and the other PP weapon combos take the skill and fun out of Halo 2. Thus why in H3 the PP's homing is alot more general and is easier to escape. Because Bungie recognized the fact that the PP was being exploited.

Sorry about that i was just reading another thread about it and i just went balistic... I hope you understand.

  • 07.07.2007 10:14 AM PDT

If I had a Rocket Launcher...

Shut up and get behind me... Sir!

The cable. I'm going to cut it.

Awesomeness would ensue.

The Plasma Pistol was designed to do what it does. As was the Battle Rifle.
People just don't like others winning because they thought of a way to get an easy kill.

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  • 07.07.2007 10:21 AM PDT
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Posted by: Prince2007
@GezaB forgot to add quote

the same can be said for the sword, but there are players that can hold the sword on lockout for the whole match gettin' many kills which in my eyes takes skill or those that get 0,1 or 2 kills. Is there a point when it becomes skilled. Is there a point when u can call some skilled with the noob combo lets say in a team slayer match they get 20 kills 18 of which are head shots and they died twice.



ya ... i think you think too much of head shots in halo 2. How hard is it to get a head shot in halo 2? Its very easy. Almost as easy as using the noob combo because most people who would normally get out BRed by the person they are combo-ing yet they still manage to get one head shot kill becasue you dont need to be a good player to get a head shot in halo 2 with the BR. Halo 3 ---- talk about balance =)---- so, it is called the noob combo because everyone can use it ... it easier used than avoided... and your a BK if you try and justify that it isn't a newbish weapon. You can say you use it all the time Blah blah blah about strategy and it being an outlet for ur bad Br skills but atleast admit that it is newbish since everyone can use it =)


Fair enough thats why i added only died twice aswell with the auto/sticky aim your right it not the hardest thing. But the player in question only died twice with his only weapons being the noob combo for the majority of the game. So lets say... he PP/BR someone then just flat out BR'd someone one on one, with the damage he had taken threw a grenade and BR'd a next person killed him and now has time to charge his PP again why hie shield rebuilds. This person knows how to play and doesn't entirely rely on the combo he could out BR you 9 out of 10 times.

Now the game continues like this and he die's twice, when does it become skilled?

EDIT. E.G. the sniper rifle, shooting 2 times and killing somone isn't skill, but if you kill 11 people out of the 12 shot's you get your skilled with that weapon, whats the number of kills you need to get with your 12 ammo before your skilled with the sniper, 8,9,10.

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  • 07.07.2007 11:13 AM PDT

Posted by: XxARKmasterxX
Posted by: THX 1386
Posted by: XxARKmasterxX
Smart playing because why else would the plasma pistol would be in there? It's there so its not n00b. Just because you get pwned by it everysingle time doesn't mean it is noobish. It means you either stink or your not halo smart. Every time im here I see "sword is to strong" or "bungie take this and that out"
Just chill out! I use the combo and I don't care it gets me some kills so its effeicent



There's about two ways to defend yourself against PP/BR combo. Get hit and die or evade the PP shot. Now if the guy shoots you from behind with the PP shot (which of course homes in on you while you're running) then you're screwed. And that's how most people use it. As a way to make it one giant game of SWAT. Just beacuse you get killed by the newb combo does NOT mean you stink. It means the other player is too lazy or too poor of a player to pick up something that takes more skill. The sword does take skill, you have to know when to use it and zip and when to put it away in favor of another weapon. Same with the rockets, shotgun, and sniper rifle. The PP/BR and the other PP weapon combos take the skill and fun out of Halo 2. Thus why in H3 the PP's homing is alot more general and is easier to escape. Because Bungie recognized the fact that the PP was being exploited.

Sorry about that i was just reading another thread about it and i just went balistic... I hope you understand.


Yeah I understand. No worries. I know what you mean. I'm not suggesting that Bungie take out the PP just because some people use it as a way to get quick kills. It's part of the game, and you have to learn to defend yourself against it..but sometimes you cant so you just gang up on the dude using it lol.

  • 07.07.2007 1:04 PM PDT