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Subject: MUWHAHAHAHA i got the proof !!!!
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The handgun will definitly get back in halo2 , maybe for some its not a big news but for other's..... Ah yes the proof of what i advance is right on the halo 2 render http://www.bungie.net/Games/Halo2/Gallery.aspx?Gallery=Render s&page=3 and click on the chief animation (green one) and look the gun he have in his hand.

  • 04.15.2004 3:10 PM PDT
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I don't see any gun...

  • 04.15.2004 3:12 PM PDT
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what? you see the e3 video? its an SMG..plus theres nothing in his hand..

  • 04.15.2004 3:12 PM PDT
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dude...
Thats the SMG........ Didn't you watch the Demo?

  • 04.15.2004 3:13 PM PDT
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ok, i don't see what you are talking about

  • 04.15.2004 3:14 PM PDT
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i think he means this one

  • 04.15.2004 3:16 PM PDT

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I'm guessing you're talking about the animation rig models, the flat green and grey ones near the bottom of the list, this one in particular.

I hate to disappoint, but... Does this look familiar?

Those animation rig renders are from the animation files made for the Halo 2 E3 demo last year. Rather than import more models than necessary while animating, character animators often take a shortcut by using since outlines to act as props that aid in positioning for animation. What I believe you're looking at is the prop Nathan and John (and the other animators, I'm not sure how many of them are character animators) use to represent the SMG when creating animations for cinematics.

Keep in mind, this doesn't prove or disprove the pistol's place in the game. It just means that we don't have any evidence to prove that it is, yet. =)

  • 04.15.2004 3:19 PM PDT
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It's called a SMG

  • 04.15.2004 3:21 PM PDT
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If any one can actually see there an outline of the pistol

  • 04.15.2004 3:24 PM PDT

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Very nice find, Archangel.

For those of you who cant see it, look at the render of the chief in the kneeling pose. You'll notice the outline of a handgun (in yellow lines) by his hand. Huzzah!

It doesnt look like the old pistol though... funny.

  • 04.15.2004 3:32 PM PDT
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i know

  • 04.15.2004 3:34 PM PDT
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It's a SMG dude... sorry.

  • 04.15.2004 3:34 PM PDT
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yea thats definantly an smg. Its from the E3 trailor " I bet you cant stick it"

  • 04.15.2004 3:35 PM PDT
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This Picture

In that picture, it's also a SMG. That render is also from the last year e3, he just got up after sliding on the ground from after his ghost exploded...

  • 04.15.2004 3:37 PM PDT
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crap...i really wish it was a pistol ( i dont see how he didnt know it was an SMG)

  • 04.15.2004 3:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: AzuR ArchAngel
The handgun will definitly get back in Halo 2 , maybe for some its not a big news but for other's..... Ah yes the proof of what i advance is right on the halo 2 render http://www.bungie.net/Games/Halo2/Gallery.aspx?Gallery=Render s&pag e=3 and click on the chief animation (green one) and look the gun he have in his hand.



Posted by: Maraxus6
Very nice find, Archangel.

For those of you who cant see it, look at the render of the chief in the kneeling pose. You'll notice the outline of a handgun (in yellow lines) by his hand. Huzzah!

It doesnt look like the old pistol though... funny.


Sorry guys but you have'nt proven anything, because that can't be an outline of a pistol because all those yellow lines come from a rig plugin for maya (the program the animators are using to animate for halo 2) the plugin helps manipulate the joints of the character, not to surve as an outline for a gun etc.

Here is what I suggest: Enjoy the screenshots and take it all in, dont analyze the -blam!- out of every pic.

-Deja Vu

[Edited on 4/15/2004 3:58:42 PM]

  • 04.15.2004 3:45 PM PDT
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sorry to tell you Deju Vu but Bungie uses 3D Studio Max to create Halo and Halo 2 not Maya but yes you are right about there will not be a pistol in Halo 2, if you all did not know Linkin Park went to Bungie right before Christmas of '03 and posted what they got to see and play on Halo 2. No pistol, new levels, some old levels like Sidewinder, Hang Em High and they had 2 Halo PC levels Danger Canyon and Death Island on Halo 2.....other stuff like vehicles weapons and multiplayer were also expland on the post..

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  • 04.15.2004 4:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: tempe5t
sorry to tell you Deju Vu but Bungie uses 3D Studio Max to create Halo and Halo 2 not Maya but yes you are right about there will not be a pistol in Halo 2, if you all did not know Linkin Park went to Bungie right before Christmas of '03 and posted what they got to see and play on Halo 2. No pistol, new levels, some old levels like Sidewinder, Hang Em High and they had 2 Halo PC levels Danger Canyon and Death Island on Halo 2.....other stuff like vehicles weapons and multiplayer were also expland on the post..

tempe5t


tempe5t I think you should re-read what I said, I said that they are using Maya to ANIMATE the characters for Halo 2, the animators said it themselves on 'so you want to be an animator' on the old bungie site, dont know if they still have that article...

[Edited on 4/15/2004 4:19:12 PM]

  • 04.15.2004 4:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: tempe5t
sorry to tell you Deju Vu but Bungie uses 3D Studio Max to create Halo and Halo 2 not Maya but yes you are right about there will not be a pistol in Halo 2, if you all did not know Linkin Park went to Bungie right before Christmas of '03 and posted what they got to see and play on Halo 2. No pistol, new levels, some old levels like Sidewinder, Hang Em High and they had 2 Halo PC levels Danger Canyon and Death Island on Halo 2.....other stuff like vehicles weapons and multiplayer were also expland on the post..

tempe5t


Don't believe everything you read. That post made at Linkin Parks fan site was not made by any of the band members. It was just a prank made by some guy with a bad sense of humor. With that said, I don't know if the pistol will be in the game or not. I'm just a forum moderator.

[Edited on 4/15/2004 4:24:41 PM]

  • 04.15.2004 4:16 PM PDT

Yeah, that Linkin Park thing....didnt really happen; it was a bad hoax. You think Bungie would actually let them spill the beans over 4 months ago about the biggest game in recent history (along with Half-life 2 and Doom 3) on some internet discussion board?

The render is, like so many have stated before, the SMG, not the pistol. Heck, even the SMG could be ditched before release. We really dont know much about Halo 2.

  • 04.15.2004 4:32 PM PDT

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The render is, like so many have stated before, the SMG, not the pistol. Heck, even the SMG could be ditched before release. We really dont know much about Halo 2.

I'd say that since Bungie is still posting screens with the SMG this late in development, that the SMG isn't going anywhere. =)

  • 04.15.2004 4:36 PM PDT
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I agree, and they put it in the e3. They wouldnt toss it, its too cool, plus there is no reason to.

  • 04.15.2004 4:46 PM PDT