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Subject: A way to fix tombstone !!!!!
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hi all

There are a lot of threads about how badly tombstone and desolation are playing in MM, and its rightly deserved i guess. Now ive only ever played tombstone in MM so i can only comment on this map. Most of us know its a horrible map to play on, what with the bad spawns, host advantage etc....Now host advantage will always remain on any map and there is not a damn thing any of us can do about that, but on the other hand we can suggest ways to try and fix the problem with this map.

Well its a large enough map to which there are 2 bases at each end........Because of a poorly designed map, everyone plays from both bases.......the big open valley in the middle is pointless......hardly anyone uses this part of the map, its overlooked !!! you only use it, cos you spawn there and even then your basically -blam!- ed.

Now ive been thinking about how to change the map. My best idea is that at the back of each base a teleporter should be added ( as in beaver creek ).
That would stop camping as each base ( not cos we want to, but cos of a badly designed map.......its forced us too ).
It would also make force us to use the middle of the map too. Introducing these teleporters would make players move around the map more and use different tactics, instead of spawning at the bases and camping cos you don't wanna get owned by the one sniper from across the map or even the host who has the BR and can shoot great distances.........

  • 07.06.2007 11:08 AM PDT
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Maybe a big wall in the middle of the two bases would help. Or they can retire the maps too, that would be my #1 choice

  • 07.06.2007 12:13 PM PDT
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tombstone is like the 3rd best map in the game. Lockout, Sanctuary, Tombstone. But Desolation, well that map is just dull and boring.

if you dont start with Br's then you go hopping around until you get close enough to someone to kill them with the SMG or whatever other weapon you have.

If it is BR start then you have to hide in the corners of stuff to shoot people. If you dare to walk out into the middle you will get blasted from all sorts of directions.

  • 07.06.2007 12:27 PM PDT
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aaah. Tombstone is one of the best maps in H1 and should have been in the origional release. Desolation is like 3 other crappy maps and is just another encarnation or relic or the other crap-hole with the 4 rooms. Tombstone is designed for big-team CTF or Snipers. slayer br on containment or water works is just as stupid as it is on tombstone. you dont use the middle of the map b/c u dont know how. there are 2 or 3 really good sniping points on the floor that i use regularly. and i end the game with a 12 kill 5 death score. a teleporter would ruin the map and its sneek and gorilla tactics that it was built for. should there be a teleporter @ buiral mounds? didnt think so.

on the note of snipers... when is waterworks or colosis ever gonna be in snipes MM???

  • 07.06.2007 12:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: REBEL SST
aaah. Tombstone is one of the best maps in H1 and should have been in the origional release. Desolation is like 3 other crappy maps and is just another encarnation or relic or the other crap-hole with the 4 rooms. Tombstone is designed for big-team CTF or Snipers. slayer br on containment or water works is just as stupid as it is on tombstone. you dont use the middle of the map b/c u dont know how. there are 2 or 3 really good sniping points on the floor that i use regularly. and i end the game with a 12 kill 5 death score. a teleporter would ruin the map and its sneek and gorilla tactics that it was built for. should there be a teleporter @ buiral mounds? didnt think so.

on the note of snipers... when is waterworks or colosis ever gonna be in snipes MM???


dude........i don't ever recall anyone saying anything bad about burial mounds. So burial mounds doesn't need fixing..........................

I do recall however a hell of a lot of people complaining about tombstone. ive seen hundreds about how bad tombstone is.......9 times out of 10 when the map is chosen online and its tombstone ( and i always go in alone ) always moans about how -blam!- the map is. Your that 1 in 10............

to answer your question.........collossous used to be in team snipers a while ago but was taken out in an update, due to the fact the spawn system was horrible. I remember a sniper game on that map and everytime i spawned ( in the same spot everytime ) , the very same guy would just headshot me........there aint no fun in that, which was why it was taken away.

Waterworks in my opinion would be too large a map for 4 v 4. I do however agree that maybe some maps could be installed in the playlist and should be.

i quite like the idea of swapping beaver creek for midship............and ascension for gemini........

  • 07.07.2007 3:02 AM PDT