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Subject: Is it really worth it?

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Hello Maw! I have been playing Halo: Pc from time to time for about 2 1/2 years now and have had countless hours of fun on it. I've been looking forward to buying Halo 2 Vista since it was announced and now I have recently upgraded to Vista (which is absolutely great) so now I finally have the chance. But everytime I come to post here I see nothing but problems and horrid news of the game.

So my question: Is it really worth it? Despite all of the complaints, will my 4.2 rated rig give me an enjoyable experiance?

  • 07.06.2007 8:39 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Just remember that the people most vocal about the game are the ones complaining about it. ;) It's a good game, what brings your score down to a 4.2 though?

  • 07.06.2007 9:12 PM PDT
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TBH I can't judge your rig well with the Vista score because of lack of reference (just know mine's 4.8 w/E6600, 8800GTS 640MB, and 2GB ram), but if you really like H2 (and aren't tired of it yet) then I'd go ahead and get H2V. Otherwise wait for Crysis.

Like static said, many people without problems aren't posting on these forums.

[Edited on 07.07.2007 12:29 AM PDT]

  • 07.07.2007 12:28 AM PDT

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Well, the 4.2 rated rig is from the lowest sub-score.
Mine is the same because my Processor is a AMD Athlon 3200+ ~2.2Ghz which Vista rates it at 4.2
Everything Else:
RAM: 2Gb of PC3200 (OCZ OC'ed) - 4.4
Graphics Card: ATi x1950 Pro 256mb (dxdiag says about 350mb...?): Desktop- 5.9/Gaming 5.7
Primary hard disk: Standard ATA 160gb (AKA: unknown Seagate)- 5.3

Post Specs, I can tell you what it can probably run like.

[Edited on 07.07.2007 6:35 AM PDT]

  • 07.07.2007 6:33 AM PDT
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LOL, Your all got better computers than me and Vista rates my machine at 5.4 :-) hehe

  • 07.07.2007 6:59 AM PDT

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Posted by: Fake
LOL, Your all got better computers than me and Vista rates my machine at 5.4 :-) hehe


define better?
post specs or GTFO

  • 07.07.2007 9:14 AM PDT

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I must say I love Vista but I'm very unimpressed with the Vista rating system. It should be the average of the scores or a deeper scan should be performed to find the true power of the machine. Oh and here are my specs for anyone interested:

X1950 GT Graphics Card - 5.9
400GB HDD - 5.9
2Gb Memory - 5.2
P4 3.0Ghz Processor - 4.1

Everything on my rig is 5+ except my processor, I think it would be fair to average that out to a 4.8 - 5.0. Anyone else dissapointed with the rating system? Also to those that own the game and possibly a similar rig, will this be an enjoyable experiance on my machine?

  • 07.07.2007 9:38 AM PDT
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Posted by: cullisonjason
Posted by: Fake
LOL, Your all got better computers than me and Vista rates my machine at 5.4 :-) hehe


define better?
post specs or GTFO


Well your very nice, perhaps you need some therapy???

When it comes to gaming, I believe graphics cards play the most important role, I mean its not like your gonna get someone to put an 1950XT or an 8800GTS into a P3 machine, so I highly doubt a P4 can bottleneck a high end card to a mid range level.

Specs for me are:

Processor: AMD X2 5000+...................5.4
Memory: 2x1GB G.Skill DDR2 800.....5.9
Graphics: ASUS 7600GT (Desktop)..5.9
Gaming:...................................................5.4
Primary Hard Drive:...............................5.6

Posted by: Çäspër
X1950 GT Graphics Card - 5.9
400GB HDD - 5.9
2Gb Memory - 5.2
P4 3.0Ghz Processor - 4.1
will this be an enjoyable experiance on my machine?


Your graphics card is like twice as powerful as mine and at some stages I can run H2V at 1280-1024 max detail with 4xAA at 30-40+fps, but my graphics card can't handle it so good outside so it drops to about 20fps. Yous should be able to run it all maxed out atleast 40-50fps, so its a pretty good experience imo.

[Edited on 07.07.2007 10:05 AM PDT]

  • 07.07.2007 9:52 AM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

No the scored arent supposed to be averaged and it's a good idea. Say someone has a reall crappy GPU, say an intel integrated solution that scores a 1, while everything else scored a 5.9. That averages out to ~4.9. There is no chance of such computer playing H2V. Just like in your case the p4 is a very weak CPU these days and a 4.1 is very generous.

Posted by: Fake
When it comes to gaming, I believe graphics cards play the most important role, I mean its not like your gonna get someone to put an 1950XT or an 8800GTS into a P3 machine, so I highly doubt a P4 can bottleneck a high end card to a mid range level.
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I could easily believe this, hell my athlon x2 4400 bottlenecks my 8800 GTX to slightly better than an x1950 series card. The solution to CPU bottlenecking has always been to run the game in an extremely high resolution with AA so the card has more to process than any cpu could realistically give it.

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  • 07.07.2007 9:54 AM PDT

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2. Lofty; sublime; noble
3. Exaggerated; inflated

Your graphics card is like twice as powerful as mine and at some stages I can run H2V at 1280-1024 max detail with 4xAA at 30-40+fps, but my graphics card can't handle it so good outside so it drops to about 20fps. Yous should be able to run it all maxed out atleast 40-50fps, so its a pretty good experience imo.
Not totally true, I get alot of bottle necking at my RAM and Processor. I can get my computer running @ 1280x1024 4xAA.
I can get it running at 8xAA forcefully on the controll center but drops the FPS studders because H2V doesn't support 8xAA and has some strange errors. (Along with forceful AF)
At mostly 60-75fps it is usually smooth with the occasional hiccup.
Your lowest subscore is your graphics card/Processor when it scored the same as mine. (except my processor)
So no, your computer is a little better. (Plus I am running my card in an AGP slot, I am guessing you are running yours on a PCI-E16x)

  • 07.07.2007 10:10 AM PDT
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Posted by: staticx576
I could easily believe this, hell my athlon x2 4400 bottlenecks my 8800 GTX to slightly better than an x1950 series card. The solution to CPU bottlenecking has always been to run the game in an extremely high resolution with AA so the card has more to process than any cpu could realistically give it.


I Apologize than, I've never owned a high end card before so I could never really tell. My graphics card was always the one to bottleneck my computer, never my cpu. I just recently went from a 6200 to a 7600GT and was more than happy with the results. Can't exactly afford an 8800, and getting a GTX with a X2 4400 wasn't exactly the smartest idea, than again, any dual core processor will bottleneck an 8800.

But still, any X1950 is twice as powerful as my 7600GT :-), not to mention an X1950 isn't exactly a mid range card like I was trying to tell you.

Posted by: cullisonjason
(Plus I am running my card in an AGP slot, I am guessing you are running yours on a PCI-E16x)


Yep, I am, but I don't think it will make much of a deal, I don't think last generation GPU's took full advantage of PCI-E 16x, and the benchmarks i've seen between the 7800 AGP vs 7800 PCI-E 16x, same card, different slot, showed the AGP version beat the PCI-E 16x in almost everything, by very, very little of cause, but it was still faster :-)


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  • 07.07.2007 10:10 AM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Posted by: Fake
Can't exactly afford an 8800, and getting a GTX with a X2 4400 wasn't exactly the smartest idea, than again, any dual core processor will bottleneck an 8800.

I knew my 4400+ would bottleneck it in all but the highest resolutions, but I plan on carrying it over to my next build hopefully by the end of this year or beginning of next.
Posted by: Fake
But still, any X1950 is twice as powerful as my 7600GT :-), not to mention an X1950 isn't exactly a mid range card like I was trying to tell you.

the x1950 is very midrange in terms of performance. Sure at higher resolutions the x1950 could easily outperform the 7600GT but anytime the game becomes very cpu bound it wont be much faster at all.

[Edited on 07.07.2007 11:28 AM PDT]

  • 07.07.2007 11:27 AM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

I got a 4.2 and can't even play the damn game. Waste of money for me. Maybe you'll get better mileage.

  • 07.07.2007 5:59 PM PDT