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Okay I'm so sick of racism... I have a friend I play with, we haven't gone for more than two games without running into racism. He has a gamertag that includes the name of his country(which is not a green light to make racist remarks). It doesn't fail that we end up with comments for whatever reason. I guess these players find it important to bash him, so they might feel better bout themselves. That's sad:( Anyways I have noticed the increase in racist, rude, crude and so on comments the last few months. It doesn't make for a fun game. Yes i realize I can mute them, but i shouldn't have to. During the first year H2 was out things seemed to be a lot better and it has taken a nose dive. During the few weeks of the H3 beta things were nice there as well. Obviously there were some that made the remarks but they were far less than in H2. Anyways what I'm getting at is lets have fun and show a little respect. This doesn't mean that there can't be friendly trash talk in a game that has a lot of competition. Thanks for letting me get that out...and lets leave all the crap at the door for H3 09252007 woo hoo!!!

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  • 07.07.2007 11:47 PM PDT
Subject: so so so sick of it!!!

Send A Friend Request to Schloxictonkey if you need a good teammate and you are good

haha guatamelee. i would make fun of that. i dont even know what colour guatamallans are. wheres your other buddy portugrenade?

  • 07.07.2007 11:54 PM PDT
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mmm hmmm thats what im talkin about kinda lame but its not the name that matters make fun of the name its when someone is taking shots in a personal manner that just isn't called for period

  • 07.07.2007 11:57 PM PDT

Send A Friend Request to Schloxictonkey if you need a good teammate and you are good

they cant sell us microphones and say we cant use certain words. i can say -blam!- but not -blam!-. gimme a break. i have the right to be racist, im not one to go around calling people names for no reason, but it shouldnt be something they can ban you for. its freedom of speech

  • 07.08.2007 12:00 AM PDT
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I'm no legal scholar, but it seems to me that it IS something they can ban you for, because when we signed up for XBL we all agreed not to behave in that manner. XBL is a private service run by a publicly traded company, and as a result they have the right to present their product in a manner they deem reasonable. Nowhere in the agreement we are all subject to does it say that guatamelee has to put up with bullcrap from some jerk who's lacking between the legs, rather they say explicitly that racist or illegal behavior is not acceptable. In some sense, you using racist language over XBL is violating Microsoft's freedom of speech, as they have to right to determine what is NOT said on their service as part of how they present a product.
Furthermore, the issue of whether or not racist speech is protected under the first ammendment is a little vague. The 1st ammendment is often interpretted such that while the content of a person's speech cannot be legislated, the effects that said speech creates can be, hence it is illegal to incite a riot or to shout fire in a crowded theater. Some jurists argue that hate speech is incitement to racism, which would allow it to be considered in the same way are inciting a riot. It's not exactly so black and white.
You're right in saying that you have a right to be racist, but it goes both ways; I have the right to not be racist or experience it from you.

All that being said, I agree with the underlying implication that you make, which is that we all need to chill out about all this racism thing. There are people out there that will hate you for being what you are, no matter what you are, so let's all just call that guy a jerk, and put it out of our lives.

Bigotry can only hurt you if you let it hurt you. Don't be angry at these people, feel sorry for them.

  • 07.08.2007 12:37 AM PDT
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Racism sucks, but I just hate trash talkers in general. Everyone just shut your *blam!* mouths.

  • 07.08.2007 12:41 AM PDT
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Yeah, I hate it when people shell out racist slurs like ignorant a-holes. My GT is Nigi and my actual name is Nigi so many bigots end up calling me the N word. What is funny about the whole situation is that I am an Assyrian, and not an African-American.

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  • 07.08.2007 1:56 AM PDT
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they cant sell us microphones and say we cant use certain words. i can say -blam!- but not -blam!-. gimme a break. i have the right to be racist, im not one to go around calling people names for no reason, but it shouldnt be something they can ban you for. its freedom of speech


xbl term and conditions

go to section 6 but maybe you should read the whole thing

6. USE OF COMMUNICATION FACILITIES

Your use of the Service is subject to the Code of Conduct. You also agree not to do any of the following while being connected to the Service:

Defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten, or otherwise violate the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others.
Publish, distribute, or disseminate any inappropriate, profane, defamatory, infringing, obscene, indecent, or unlawful topic, name, material, file or information.
Publish, distribute or disseminate any topic, name, material, file or information that incites discrimination, hate or violence towards one person or a group because of their race, religion, nationality, -blam!- status, -blam!--blam!- status or HIV/AIDS status, or that insults the victims of crimes against humanity by contesting the existence of those crimes.

All of us have the right to enter a game and not hear this kind of garbage.

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  • 07.08.2007 9:01 AM PDT
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Okay it just went down again droppin N words and all that I can not believe this stuff regular cursin doesn't bother me so much but this racial stuff is killin me... i wanna start postin gamertags i swear... is that agianst the rules


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  • 07.09.2007 9:43 PM PDT
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Why isn't there a report option for "racism." There's screaming, harassment, threats, and offensive name but no racism. And XBL even makes light of the fact that racism is not tolerated, kinda funny when they have no way of telling if someone has been racist or not.

  • 07.09.2007 10:01 PM PDT
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move to canada. hardly any racism here. but on live i go in a game with a canadian symbol and americans piss me off so much. for no reason. they just think there better than all of us. i dont care ill let them think that. but i know the truth.

  • 07.09.2007 10:39 PM PDT

my other account, if you are gonna send me an FR, send it to this account and my Main GT.

i can honestly say i have never yelled a racial slur to anyone. on xbl or real life. how is a mexican or a black man any different from a white man. to me that has always just seem like an idiodic thing to resort to, i mean, calling someone a name based on a physical trait they have no control of. real mature. i also think that narrow minded people judge an entire race off of stereotypes and a few bad people they know of that race. its like saying " one time i saw a black gangster, i don't like black people anymore " thats just stupid. if people think like that then why don't they think white people just steal land and force their beliefs upon people.
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move to canada. hardly any racism here. but on live i go in a game with a canadian symbol and americans piss me off so much. for no reason. they just think there better than all of us. i dont care ill let them think that. but i know the truth.


you are no better than the racist. you are singling out a group of people as racist. hmmm. you can't judge all americans based on the few morons who yell out racial slurs over the internet. so americans love their country, doesn't mean they think of yours or anybody elses as inferior.

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  • 07.09.2007 11:37 PM PDT
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im sick of that too im tired of being called: beaner terrorist iraki mexican garbage etc etc etc and im not even mexican...

  • 07.09.2007 11:54 PM PDT
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Havent any of you ever heard Chris Rock's stand up comedy, "N*** vs. Black people" ? if you havent, you really should. because it clears up a lot of things. if you listen to it you will understand that N*** isn't a race, it is a lifestyle. so when someone uses it, they are attacking a lifestyle. btw, not all N*** are black, and not all black people are N***, so how is it a racial threat?

  • 07.09.2007 11:56 PM PDT
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Havent any of you ever heard Chris Rock's stand up comedy, "N*** vs. Black people" ? if you havent, you really should. because it clears up a lot of things. if you listen to it you will understand that N*** isn't a race, it is a lifestyle. so when someone uses it, they are attacking a lifestyle. btw, not all N*** are black, and not all black people are N***, so how is it a racial threat?

Wow. Just wow.

We are trying to reduce the "N" word usage, not encourage it.

  • 07.10.2007 12:00 AM PDT
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Posted by: ToxicSchlonkey
they cant sell us microphones and say we cant use certain words. i can say -blam!- but not -blam!-. gimme a break. i have the right to be racist, im not one to go around calling people names for no reason, but it shouldnt be something they can ban you for. its freedom of speech


You stupid ingrate. You have as much a right to be a racist as I do to shove my foot up your ass. It's not freedom of speech, it's idiocity at it's highest level, and the freedoms that you go about quoting have a stopping point; racism being far beyond that point. I hope you carry along that attitude for the rest of your life, so that some day you say the wrong thing to the wrong person and they put your sniveling pathetic ass in its rightful place.

. . . sorry about that folks, clearly, I hate racism. Knock that stuff off, for real - on XBL, in real life, in all situations. . . you'll be a better person for it.

  • 07.10.2007 12:20 AM PDT
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First, I would like to congratulate the posters on this thread for their posts that have actually had some intellectual merit.

Some people apparently get confused when they discuss their Constitutionally guaranteed freedoms. The right to free speech gives you the right to SAY it, NOT the right to avoid the consequences if what you say causes someone harm. That is the basis for "hate-based" legislation in regards to ethnic slurs and other inflammatory speech.

You can say it, just be prepared for the consequences. Getting banned from the usage of a private businesses service for one, a crack in the jaw for another. Besides, to say something inflammatory with the hope of causing someone emotional pain over the network where you are guaranteed not to get the aforementioned cracked jaw is cowardly. If your going to say it, say it to their face. If not, you're not only a jack-hole but a cowardly jack-hole.

  • 07.10.2007 1:57 AM PDT

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Posted by: MLG KaLmAdA
move to canada. hardly any racism here. but on live i go in a game with a canadian symbol and americans piss me off so much. for no reason. they just think there better than all of us. i dont care ill let them think that. but i know the truth.


you are no better than the racist. you are singling out a group of people as racist. hmmm. you can't judge all americans based on the few morons who yell out racial slurs over the internet. so americans love their country, doesn't mean they think of yours or anybody elses as inferior.


No, he was refering to the people who were racist on Live, not Americans in general.

  • 07.10.2007 2:24 AM PDT

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I know a guy that is on my friends friends list (Don't know freaking why). And EVERY time he comes he's racist about any kind of person that isn't white, christian, American, and a bunch of other crap. I report him EVERY time I play with him. And the people who join our party even say there going to leave something on him. And yet I see him almost EVERYDAY. It's ridiculous that people have to run in to a freaking mod our something just to get banned.

  • 07.10.2007 7:37 AM PDT
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I can offer you no solution to this problem, but it is a shame that it has penetrated our leisure activities.

  • 07.10.2007 8:15 AM PDT
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i've never met an intelligent racist, or any that were actually good at gaming. they probably all have tiny -blams-, and need to talk smack to compensate for sucking at life in general. mute is a wonderful invention.

  • 07.10.2007 8:52 AM PDT

I live in Georgia, and the area in which I live in gets the name:"Chicken Capital of the World" *sighs* haha. I don't know if it's official or unofficial, but a vast majority of Mexican immagrites, legal and illegal, come to work at the chicken plants. Thus, our school is about 50% Mexican, 49% White, and 1% other-black, Asian, Guatamalen. This, causes severe segregation between the whites and the Mexicans. The Mexicans will just talk trash about people in the Lunch-Line-unprovoked, in Spanish. I don't mind, I am friends with many of the Spanish people, I don't see them as any different, and sadly I get many people/friends asking me why I'm hanging out with the beaners. I don't like to think of them as different, but everybody else does. The sad part is, is I'm in High-School. Seems like people would be mature enough to accept they are just like us.

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