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One thing i don't understand about you, Ipjuunin, is that you defend Halo PC as if it were the best port out there, saying stuff like 'GearBox FTW! XD' ect. But it is a fact that H2V is a better port than Halo 1 PC and yet you despise it and think of it as the worst game ever.

Whats the matter? Mommy not buying Vista for you?

  • 07.10.2007 2:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: staticx576

And Crysis' engine is coded better, whats the point? DIFFERENT GAMES...


The problem is it's not just Crysis. It's nearly every single other PC game out there that is coded better. Both of the Halo ports are coded terribly the whole way through. They ARE different games, that doesn't give Halo an excuse to be mediocre and still have a ton of players! I don't understand why the fact that they are different games is relative at all, of course they're different games lol.

  • 07.10.2007 2:46 PM PDT

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*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

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Posted by: staticx576

And Crysis' engine is coded better, whats the point? DIFFERENT GAMES...


The problem is it's not just Crysis. It's nearly every single other PC game out there that is coded better. Both of the Halo ports are coded terribly the whole way through. They ARE different games, that doesn't give Halo an excuse to be mediocre and still have a ton of players! I don't understand why the fact that they are different games is relative at all, of course they're different games lol.


Well somewhere out there there is a game that scales better than any other game, should I -blam!- that all of the other games run like crap? Don't be stupid, not every game is perfect. They are different games, leave it at that.

[Edited on 07.10.2007 4:42 PM PDT]

  • 07.10.2007 4:25 PM PDT

Posted by: Nessy

The bungie.net community is the halo PC community that is renowned for being unbelieveably sucky.

The bad optimization argument is so tired. Same blah blah with Halo PC when it launched. You know what? Halo PC still has some of the best DX9.0 features of any game and it was by far the most advanced when it launched. If anything, H2V has significantly better hardware available to run it than Halo PC did in late 2003/early 2004. My 9800pro struggled with that game, and that was THE video card at the time. Furthermore, the game was almost unplayable with the other high end video card on the market, the FX 5800.

[Edited on 07.10.2007 4:34 PM PDT]

  • 07.10.2007 4:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Well at least the FX5800 doubled as a leaf blower. :P

  • 07.10.2007 5:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: staticx576

Well somewhere out there there is a game that scales better than any other game, should I -blam!- that all of the other games run like crap? Don't be stupid, not every game is perfect. They are different games, leave it at that.


No, but the Halo series scales really badly (nearly every other game currently out on the market scales better). Is it worth paying so much when there's a superior version on the console? That costs only around 25 bucks? And even if you don't want an xbox game, why go with Halo 2? Sure just because i'ts not perfect doesn't mean you shouldn't buy it. You shouldn't buy it because there are so many other really great choices for the PC that don't have Halo in the title. It's not a great decision IMO, and it's one of the reasons nobody plays.
If you want it that bad by all means go ahead I could care less. I don't have the game, nor Vista (another argument entirely). You're kind of making it into a personal thing when really, I'm just saying why I think nobody wants to buy H2V

  • 07.10.2007 9:01 PM PDT

Posted by: Nessy

The bungie.net community is the halo PC community that is renowned for being unbelieveably sucky.

I have no idea what you just said.

  • 07.11.2007 12:13 AM PDT
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My god was that a real guy? I don't believe someone could possible write something more incoherent.

  • 07.11.2007 10:53 AM PDT

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Posted by: fred_mognet
Juts shut the !@#$ up... my old Geforce 4 can run halo 1 perfectly, !@#$ if i know how old it is, but have ta be at leave 5 years old. and even if u had a duel graphic SLI configuration, they still have there limits and better still how do u know if it ur graphics card could be other rason... Geforce 4 minimum, 1 gig of ram, if u dont have enough ram the game run sluggish as if ur graphics card cant handle it... and may other reason... I pesonly recomend Nvidia all the way. If its not nvidia its a -blam!- card by far... Another point u should not have to have vista to play halo 2. about Halo on PC i never played it but Halo 1 is the best port u can get and a lump of -blam!- can handle it quite fine, providing u go Nvidia top class graphics. put it this way u be better with a geforce 2 than a geforce 4, half class... Buy ur self the best geforce 4 u can get but not a geforce 4 mx, go geforce 2... juat to tell u u dont trut the the minimum requirement on the game u gotta think for ya self... if the min req for a game say 500 mb ram and windows vista uses 500 mb ram, u gonna need a little more than 1 gb of ram 20% over. but these day all and all u just need 1 gig of ram to do almost anything u wanna do, not any bit less... Oh people who say they are good are not good cos they use a program calles "HaloHBF" it an autoaim tool thay can trac down any enemy on the map, even behind walls...

Oh just off the toppic i have a 500 australian doller reward or more if some can tech me how to do some programming... maining finding enemy coordinets. here is the code.

Poke 40034C A3 44 03 40 00 A1 48 03 40 00 89
Poke 400357 90 00 06 40 00 83 F8 50 74 05 83
Poke 400362 C0 04 EB 05 B8 00 00 00 00 A3 48
Poke 40036D 03 40 00 A1 44 03 40 00 89 1A 89
Poke 400378 42 04 6A 00 51 89 72 08 E9 7F DF
Poke 400383 15 00
Poke 55E2F9 E9 4E 20 EA FF 90 90 90 90 90 90

HaloHBF
what does it do, how do u find it knowing u cant use a debugger in halo 1.07.
email me at fred_mognet@hotmail.com

Wow. You are fairly far behind in conversation, but even with the hex you just gave us, I'm not sure what you want us to do. Btw, I'm American, oh please use english if you want to get your point across, we have more than enough Fuzzy Bunny(s) on this forum.

  • 07.11.2007 1:49 PM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

H2V uses way too much hardware power for a port of a game that ran on an 800mhz console. It has so many problems half the people who buy it can't even play it. The few lucky souls that did get it working keep defending it, but it's still garbage, and so is Vista.

  • 07.11.2007 2:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: Himura_Kenshin
Because it's a horrible game.

Why? Be specific in why it's horrible from your experience.

As for lack of players? Well it's simple. Lack of vista.. I made the jump but I built my system entirely around vista so my exeperience has been awesome..

[Edited on 07.11.2007 3:22 PM PDT]

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Posted by: staticx576
The Halo pc part was for lpjjujijn, now that thats out of the way.

How simple can I put this? I know exactly what his point and I am not defending this port for it's graphics performance. It's just that the logic he uses is completely out of place. It doesn't matter how you think HL2 and FEAR looks because they are NOT THE SAME GAME. You can't say hey this old game runs really well on my old outdated hardware and then say this new game which my specs don't even meet the minimum requirements should run just as well.

Posted by: Ryanman7
Halo 2, on the other hand, gets framerate problems when you use an 8800GTX. THAT was flapjack's point, THAT was what all of you misunderstood, and THAT is why nobody plays H2v.


I should go tell my 8800 GTX that it should run halo 2 like crap because it seems to be running the game just fine.


It's amusing how you always, intentionaly, misspell my b.net name. One second, it's something along the lines of lpjujujujujujujunininin, and in another, it's lpjujjin. Does it offend me? No, but I know you're trying oh so hard to make me look illiterate by "pointing" out not much people have the intelligence to type/spell out my name. Although I can't say you're one of them, I'll point out you're one desperate little pizzaman trying to not only defend the worst port of the century, but at the same time trying to "offend" your enemies. You do decent in the first one, but you fail in the second.

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H2V uses way too much hardware power for a port of a game that ran on an 800mhz console. It has so many problems half the people who buy it can't even play it. The few lucky souls that did get it working keep defending it, but it's still garbage, and so is Vista.


I think that's aimed right at your forehead staticx, IMO. Describes you well.

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  • 07.11.2007 4:52 PM PDT
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Its a new game let it slowly gereate its puplic, I havn't had any bugs at all. Not a single one.

"Everything I don't understand is stupid, so there!" quotes from a three-year-old

Just because its new and costs money dosn't mean its garbage. When you get your next computer Vista will already be on it.
And the Windows LIVE dosn't work too well yet, but its praticaly the public-alpha, its hard for me to join a game. I have tried to join around a hundred servers, and have only played one four, one which didn't have anyother players.

[Edited on 07.11.2007 8:43 PM PDT]

  • 07.11.2007 8:38 PM PDT
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This is an easy question to answer...

1) It needs Vista (however not with recent cracks...MS will patch that eventually)
2) Need a pretty decent gfx card let alone a pretty decent computer. (Good computer cost $$$)
3) The Halo series is meant to be a console game.


I think once Windows XP is killed out by the end of the year (Microsoft is pulling it off the shelves around Xmas time) we will start to see people playing it more and more. Probably around Xmas time we will see an increase in H2V gamers, once XP is no longer an option on Dells and such PC companies and people are forced to purchase Vista we will see more H2 gamers. The game is still early in its life as well, and MS/Bungie/Hired Gun put absolutely no hype into it either...

P.S. - The game rocks

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  • 07.11.2007 9:26 PM PDT
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Halo 2 runs fine, vista doesn't. A friend of mine hacked it on XP, runs fine for him and his specs are only half as good as mine. He kicks it too everything up high on 1600 x 1200. I run the same thing just on 720p with a 7600gt (and thats only cause I got 2.5 gigs of RAM). It's all about RAM. H2v uses nearly a gig, Vista uses a whole gig. Meaning, if you want to run it, you need at least 1.5 gigs if not 2. Vista is poorly optimized not the game.

My point is that every game that comes out for vista from now till the release of Dx10 WILL be poorly optimized.

And too all the H2v haters out there, (Ipjuunin). Halo 2 is better than Halo 1 in every aspect. The only thing it lacks is the way the campaign feels. Despite all the upgrades it's not epic. However, that doesn't make the game crap. Halo 2 blows Halo CE out of the water in game play. As in epic feel, not so much.

[Edited on 07.11.2007 9:36 PM PDT]

  • 07.11.2007 9:32 PM PDT

Posted by: Nessy

The bungie.net community is the halo PC community that is renowned for being unbelieveably sucky.

XP uses about 375mb of system memory. Vista uses about 500mb from my experience. Not too much of a difference.

Saying Vista is poorly optimized for gaming is a gross inaccuracy. Guru3d.com has done plenty of video card tests with both Vista and XP and generally there is no difference or max of 5% in either direction.

H2 is not better than Halo. As much as I like H2, they are different games with different gameplay, but upon comparison there is no comparison. My opinion.

DX10 was out as soon as Vista shipped, and DX10 compliant video cards are out as well. But of course H2V does not use DX10 hardware accelerated features anyway.

Also something very odd is that using Vista I get graphics corruption playing Halo PC, but H2 runs perfectly all day...

  • 07.11.2007 11:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: Himura_Kenshin
Because it's a horrible game.



Yea Halo 2 Vista looks so stupid because of all the bugs and glitches and crap and its also just diffrent from Halo 2 on the xbox.

  • 07.12.2007 12:38 AM PDT

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I actually think that DX10 is some of the problem, sure it can give us the best visuals known to man, but has anyone looked at it's resources?

[Edited on 07.12.2007 5:08 AM PDT]

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DX10 has nothing to do with it since Halo 2 Vista doesn't use it.

The only time Vista uses a Gig of RAM is when it is booting up. After that, I'm running consistantly at between 400 and 500Meg.

I have no problems running Vista or Halo 2 on my cheap little $600 system that I built. I also have no problems connecting to Live or connecting to online servers. I would say that the problem isn't the game, but the computer illiterate people trying to play it lol.

  • 07.12.2007 6:34 AM PDT
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Posted by: CVScorp
DX10 has nothing to do with it since Halo 2 Vista doesn't use it.

The only time Vista uses a Gig of RAM is when it is booting up. After that, I'm running consistantly at between 400 and 500Meg.

I have no problems running Vista or Halo 2 on my cheap little $600 system that I built. I also have no problems connecting to Live or connecting to online servers. I would say that the problem isn't the game, but the computer illiterate people trying to play it lol.


H2 defenders goes out of their way to blurt out "its not the game lolol, its your sucky c0mp mang, lawl!1". Sure, some, hell, maybe even most, people out there with mediocre specs tries to run H2, and complains. But what you H2-lovers don't understand is that many people have the SAME/SIMILAR specs as you, but it still doesn't work. Then, they have the rights to complain don't they?

Because after all, CVScorp, you say your computer can run H2v just fine. All is hunky dory. Let's say someone that knows about the same as you about computers, and at the same time, has very similar specs as you, just happened to start complaining about how bad this game was ported. Is HE "computer-illiterate" as you say? Just because YOU (I'm not saying your computer, because you can't blame the complainers when they have the same specs as you, I'm saying YOU) can run H2v with no problems at all, doesn't mean the "complainers" are computer-illiterate, or their rigs "sucks". It just means that you're undeservingly lucky, and you're not making this better by merely assuming everyone else that can't get it to work are 3 year olds.

And I'm saying this to the rest of you H2lovers as well.

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hey, im always good on CE, and im sure a lot more people are going to go on H2 once they start to become more aware about its release on PC

  • 07.12.2007 7:05 AM PDT
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That's so sad Ipjunnin (see I even spelt it rite lol), you must have overlooked the LOL at the end of what I typed.

  • 07.12.2007 7:19 AM PDT
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Most of the PC issues posted here are the result of PEBKAC.

Posted by: lpjuunin
Posted by: CVScorp
DX10 has nothing to do with it since Halo 2 Vista doesn't use it.

The only time Vista uses a Gig of RAM is when it is booting up. After that, I'm running consistantly at between 400 and 500Meg.

I have no problems running Vista or Halo 2 on my cheap little $600 system that I built. I also have no problems connecting to Live or connecting to online servers. I would say that the problem isn't the game, but the computer illiterate people trying to play it lol.


H2 defenders goes out of their way to blurt out "its not the game lolol, its your sucky c0mp mang, lawl!1". Sure, some, hell, maybe even most, people out there with mediocre specs tries to run H2, and complains. But what you H2-lovers don't understand is that many people have the SAME/SIMILAR specs as you, but it still doesn't work. Then, they have the rights to complain don't they?

Because after all, CVScorp, you say your computer can run H2v just fine. All is hunky dory. Let's say someone that knows about the same as you about computers, and at the same time, has very similar specs as you, just happened to start complaining about how bad this game was ported. Is HE "computer-illiterate" as you say? Just because YOU (I'm not saying your computer, because you can't blame the complainers when they have the same specs as you, I'm saying YOU) can run H2v with no problems at all, doesn't mean the "complainers" are computer-illiterate, or their rigs "sucks". It just means that you're undeservingly lucky, and you're not making this better by merely assuming everyone else that can't get it to work are 3 year olds.

And I'm saying this to the rest of you H2lovers as well.


Reevaluate that post before I tear it apart.

  • 07.12.2007 8:43 AM PDT

Posted by: Nessy

The bungie.net community is the halo PC community that is renowned for being unbelieveably sucky.

A lot of people around here do not even know how to adjust settings in their graphics control panel, or how to install display drivers...or how to force v-sync on.

So, you either educate yourself and become a PC gamer or go play the Xbox.

There really isn't "luck" involved with getting H2V to run. PC gamers and PC users for that matter need to learn how to troubleshoot their machines. That has been true since some of us were typing "run win" at a dos prompt.

  • 07.12.2007 11:25 AM PDT