Halo 1 & 2 for PC
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Actualy, vista isn't bad, its actually works very well with my laptop. You gotta remember, what your complaining about vista doing is what you did to XP when it came out.

  • 07.12.2007 11:46 AM PDT
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Because H2V for ONLY Windows Vista was a terrible move for M$ because noone wants to pay for Vista just to play a few Vista games when Vista has problems playing the hundreds of Windows XP games. Normaly it would not be bad, but because H2V does not connect to Xbox's or 360's, the Vista community is small.

  • 07.12.2007 2:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: lpjuunin
Posted by: CVScorp
DX10 has nothing to do with it since Halo 2 Vista doesn't use it.

The only time Vista uses a Gig of RAM is when it is booting up. After that, I'm running consistantly at between 400 and 500Meg.

I have no problems running Vista or Halo 2 on my cheap little $600 system that I built. I also have no problems connecting to Live or connecting to online servers. I would say that the problem isn't the game, but the computer illiterate people trying to play it lol.


H2 defenders goes out of their way to blurt out "its not the game lolol, its your sucky c0mp mang, lawl!1". Sure, some, hell, maybe even most, people out there with mediocre specs tries to run H2, and complains. But what you H2-lovers don't understand is that many people have the SAME/SIMILAR specs as you, but it still doesn't work. Then, they have the rights to complain don't they?

Because after all, CVScorp, you say your computer can run H2v just fine. All is hunky dory. Let's say someone that knows about the same as you about computers, and at the same time, has very similar specs as you, just happened to start complaining about how bad this game was ported. Is HE "computer-illiterate" as you say? Just because YOU (I'm not saying your computer, because you can't blame the complainers when they have the same specs as you, I'm saying YOU) can run H2v with no problems at all, doesn't mean the "complainers" are computer-illiterate, or their rigs "sucks". It just means that you're undeservingly lucky, and you're not making this better by merely assuming everyone else that can't get it to work are 3 year olds.

And I'm saying this to the rest of you H2lovers as well.

You act like Halo PC had the best compatibility ever when it came out.

  • 07.12.2007 2:13 PM PDT
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H2V is the first to use the Windows LIVE feature, and is the first game to be Vista Only. Expect more games to be Vista Only soon as well as window LIVE improvments.

  • 07.12.2007 5:15 PM PDT
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The only reason i dont like halo 2 vista is because the risk of cheaters is much greater than on xbox

  • 07.12.2007 11:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: Vella
The only reason i dont like halo 2 vista is because the risk of cheaters is much greater than on xbox


That may be true, but unlike with Halo 1 which has no control, of someone is caught cheating in Halo 2 Vista, just as on the Xbox, they can be banned from playing online.

  • 07.13.2007 5:58 AM PDT
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The game is dead, Soon cod 4 will be out.

  • 07.13.2007 8:59 AM PDT

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Posted by: Death2BlueCheese
im afraid im gonna have to confiscate your testicles.

What are you, the Cyber police? lol.

Posted by: mapleleaf
relax if ur talking about halo 2 more ppl will start to come once all the bugs are fixed with the installation, getting on live ect...

My words exactly. I plan on getting H2V this christmas, by then, probably all the bugs and glitches will be fixed... hopefully.

Gamer137 - wait a sec... I thought if you were a gold member on H2V you could possibly play with people who are on the Xbox...

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Posted by: DC Spartan
Posted by: mapleleaf
relax if ur talking about halo 2 more ppl will start to come once all the bugs are fixed with the installation, getting on live ect...

My words exactly. I plan on getting H2V this christmas, by then, probably all the bugs and glitches will be fixed... hopefully.

Gamer137 - wait a sec... I thought if you were a gold member on H2V you could possibly play with people who are on the Xbox...

H2V is not cross platform.

[Edited on 07.13.2007 1:18 PM PDT]

  • 07.13.2007 1:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: BlueWave
H2V is the first to use the Windows LIVE feature, and is the first game to be Vista Only. Expect more games to be Vista Only soon as well as window LIVE improvments.


Not True. Gears of War is coming to the PC and uses the Windows LIVE! service and is going to be on Vista AND XP. Face it Ms lied to us.

  • 07.13.2007 1:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: Frnksnbns
Back 10 years ago when I was the age many of you are now, PC games were much different. Multiplayer was just coming onto the scene and really Quake 2 led the online revolution in that respect. But my point is that we judged a game on its single player campaign. Online was always bonus. I still look at it that way in fact. Most of my favorite games I never really played online. Some had no online.

Halo PC was really the first game where I actually enjoyed the MP more than the campaign. For that, it will always be special.

H2V has a very good campaign IMO. Very good. Personally, I haven't gotten into the MP but that doesn't bother me b/c I still see it as a bonus feature.

People aren't playing H2V b/c it sucks though, it is an issue of economics.
I look at it on the other way around... haha. But still, what you say makes much more sense. Still, most of the time, I buy games for either one of the two: Campaign, or Multiplayer.

  • 07.13.2007 1:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: Frnksnbns
A lot of people around here do not even know how to adjust settings in their graphics control panel, or how to install display drivers...or how to force v-sync on.

So, you either educate yourself and become a PC gamer or go play the Xbox.

There really isn't "luck" involved with getting H2V to run. PC gamers and PC users for that matter need to learn how to troubleshoot their machines. That has been true since some of us were typing "run win" at a dos prompt.


I think you're right man, but Vista changed a lot to make it more user-friendly, more mac-like, dumbed down so the idiots who buy dells can do simple crap without thinking. This "easy to use" stuff makes it harder for computer literate guys to do what they're used to, IMO.

  • 07.13.2007 1:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: Ryanman7
Posted by: Frnksnbns
A lot of people around here do not even know how to adjust settings in their graphics control panel, or how to install display drivers...or how to force v-sync on.

So, you either educate yourself and become a PC gamer or go play the Xbox.

There really isn't "luck" involved with getting H2V to run. PC gamers and PC users for that matter need to learn how to troubleshoot their machines. That has been true since some of us were typing "run win" at a dos prompt.


I think you're right man, but Vista changed a lot to make it more user-friendly, more mac-like, dumbed down so the idiots who buy dells can do simple crap without thinking. This "easy to use" stuff makes it harder for computer literate guys to do what they're used to, IMO.
Well, true that Frnksnbns, luck has nothing to do with making it work. However, it's not all about "PC literacy". If I recall correctly, when Halo PC was launched in November 2003, I bought it a month later. my video card didn't make it work to a good potential. Now, it is like repeating history here. Some "lucky souls" have made it work fine, but most of us just haven't found the right specs nor video cards to make it work. I assume it must be a certain combination depending on your video card and specs or vice-versa. Back in 2003, I knew far less about PC's, including which video card I ran with. I somehow could run it with colours, shadows, blood, any specular, however, the video lagged like crazy. Perhaps, we have to wait for the end of XP, supposedly around Christmas, and more video card series to be released.
Now, I have Vista, but I still don't have Halo 2. I'll perhaps get it any time soon and try to see how it works with my current PC and it's adds.

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I forgot to add, I now play Garry's Mod, Counter-Strike: Source, and Half-Life² in a window at 600x800 to make them work fine. I know Halo 2 Vista is a different game, but I still don't know if to back up the people who bash Vista on being horribly coded, or wait and see what others say about it. I used to have Longhorn but a month ago. All my games, including Halo PC, Steam games, and The Sims, you name it, worked fine. As I just said, Steam games coded in the Source engine work horribly unless on a low res., don't know about The Sims, and I'm still trying to get my hands on another copy of Halo PC, so I'm trully just assuming things.

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  • 07.13.2007 2:05 PM PDT

Beowul7, I may be wrong but I believe longhorn was built on xp code, so you shouldnt have noticed much of a difference.

  • 07.14.2007 3:15 PM PDT
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One major reason that people are running this game like -blam!- is that because Vista isn't actually running DX9, it's emulating it. Everyone that has a decent PC could easily run this at a high FPS if it were XP. I remember playing Source games on XP at like, 500 FPS, then moving to Vista to see my frame rate drop to <100 like a lead weight. I can guarantee you that these -blam!-s at Hired Gun tested the game on Windows XP. $1000 says that they did. The only thing they probably used Vista for was to test the installation. This easily could have been avoided if

A: They ran it with DX10 or
B: Made it an XP game so we wouldn't be stuck with EMULATING the version of DirectX that H2V runs on.

Now, before anyone in this thread decides to use another game to compare to H2V again, understand that NOT EVERY GAME USES THE SAME DAMN ENGINE. Why do you think games like F.E.A.R. run "better" than H2V? God forbid that maybe games run on different engines, affecting their performance! Do you idiots even know what the "Source" part of "Counter-Strike: Source" means? Not every game runs the Blam engine (thank God). So before you consider using another game to support your argument, think about how you're using it. See how I used Source in the beginning of my argument? That was used to compare XP to Vista, which is perfectly reasonable because it shows that Vista doesn't actually run DX9. That was not pointing out H2V specifically, even though this does affect H2V. So in closing, stop using other engines in your probably terrible arguments, and understand that it's mostly Vista's fault that DX9 games run -blam!-tier now, not entirely Hired Gun's (they're really only responsible for what I pointed out earlier).

  • 07.14.2007 4:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: Death2BlueCheese
im afraid im gonna have to confiscate your testicles.

What are you, the Cyber police? lol.

Well even if it isnt, in a year or 2, it will be so huge its unbelievable, by that time, hopefully all the bugs and glitches will be fixed, the majority of people will finally have enough money to get a new PC and Vista and upgrade. H2V will grow. This is an odd way to put it but... H2V was just -born- so its small. But as time passes it grows and gets bigger and -smarter- (less bugs and glitches). Get it??

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Posted by: fred_mognet
There not going to fix up vista. and i dont think vista will get big, in fact i think think vista has already dead.
U try running all different games and programs and vista says. Do u really want to run this program, Do u really really want to run this program, Do u really really really want to run this program, Do u really really really really want to run this program. After all thost question of asking u want to run the program it finerly decides it cant handle it anyways.... for -blam!-s sake u cant even run Nero Burning Programs on Vista, u cant get as bad as that. Not only u cant run any game on vista, u cant run anything on vista. i had games like (Max Pain, Cid Myer's Rail Road) Vista incompatable and Rail Road is a fairly new game... Vista is a Gaming Free Operating System.... Halo 1 even pauses every 5 minutes and u lag out becouse u get these driver errors but it doesnt crash it just pauses for 1 minute or so... and yeah if u got less than 1 Gig of ram stop ur complaining, that is exactly ur problem y u got fram rate dropes.... Oh and Windows XP will never ever died becouse u need XP to run all ur software where vista is just made for looks but no go... Oh and 1 more thing Vista Doesnt even support OpenGL, and there are a lot of game written on OpenGL....


Wow out of the 2 posts you have made i cant seem to understand either of them. First off maybe Vista wouldn't be such a problem for you if you actually had a rig good enough to run it PROPERLY. Second off, its called UAC and it was implemented into Vista for idiots like you that cant quite figure out how to download and install programs without infecting your computer then infecting everyone else you email. Have a nice day any go to the library and do some reading.

  • 07.15.2007 2:39 AM PDT
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ROFL@fred_mognet.

You, sir, are officially this thread's resident moron.

"There not going to fix up vista. and i dont think vista will get big, in fact i think think vista has already dead." - Clearly you know nothing about Microsoft and how they release new product. As of 1 August this year, mass production of XP will be ceased. By February of 2008, sales of XP will stop and existing copies will be pulled from the shelves. In November of 2008, the two year mark of Vista (remember, Vista was made available to system builders 2 months earlier than retail), mainstream (free) OEM support for XP is discontinued. By January 1, 2009, OEM system builders (eg. Dell) will no longer be contractually able to offer XP as OS. All of these dates are verifiable at various Microsoft websites and is typical of how they roll out new OS's.

Whether you like it or not, Vista is here to stay. System builders, with exception to a very select few, only ship Vista with their machines. System builders who do still offer XP make it cost prohibitive in an attempt to ship out Vista instead (for example, if you take Vista Home Premium off of a system at Dell and want to add XP Pro, you'll end up taking on $100 to the system price). Oh, and, by the way, the first service pack for Vista is scheduled to be released in mid- to late-October. And I just got a notification two days ago to download about 11 critical updates for Vista. Still think they're not "fixing" it?

"Vista is a Gaming Free Operating System...." - Lay down the crackpipe. I play every game I own (with exception to old DOS games that are damn near 12 years old) on Vista and have absolutely no problem. The problem a lot of people are having is because of the emulated DX9 which DX10 provides. One major DX update and that'll be fixed. Then what will you say?

"Oh and Windows XP will never ever died becouse u need XP to run all ur software where vista is just made for looks but no go..." - Windows XP already has one foot in the grave. See above. It's being phased out. You won't be able to find it anywhere, except maybe eBay, after Feb. of 2008. Build a computer next summer and want to get a new OS? You get your choice of Vista, Vista and uh, Linux or FreeBSD. Yeah, that's about it.

"Oh and 1 more thing Vista Doesnt even support OpenGL, and there are a lot of game written on OpenGL...." - Uh, what? Most games running on Windows since Windows 98 have supported D3D and OpenGL. In the last couple of years, most developers have thrown OpenGL to the curb and are using D3D exclusively, which is why there was a need for programs like Cedega for Linux - to emulate the D3D environment.

How quickly people forget how PATHETIC Windows XP was when it first released. How quickly people forget that Windows XP didn't run worth a crap on computers until SP1 came out. How quickly people forget that XP had glaring compatibility issues with software and games until SP1 and DX upgrades.

If you truly think Vista is "dead" already, I hope you're planning on buying a Mac as your next new computer.

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  • 07.15.2007 10:29 AM PDT
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Halo 2 vista is way ahead of Halo PC in compatibility, I can tell you that much now. Neither games run well, but if you didn't have a good card back when Halo PC was out, you basically would end up with a half white screen or no textures at all. However, on Halo 2 Vista, you simply won't be running it on 1900 x 1200 with 4x AA and all the specs on high while running every other program possible in the background. Oh poor you.

I can run the game fine on 1280 x 720 with 4xAA and on high. And I have a 7600gt, which is only a mediocre card. I don't see what everyone is complaining about.

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Posted by: lpjuunin
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Because it's a horrible game.


Yessiree.


I would pay money to hear your right-wing reasoning behing this!

  • 07.15.2007 5:53 PM PDT
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Halo 2? Well, its usually for these three reasons, 1. People don't want to get a new OS just for a game or 2. People don't want Vista yet untill service pack 1 is released, (not sure if its already been) and 3. Waiting for bug fixes

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Posted by: xspade
Halo 2? Well, its usually for these three reasons, 1. People don't want to get a new OS just for a game or 2. People don't want Vista yet untill service pack 1 is released, (not sure if its already been) and 3. Waiting for bug fixes

Vista's problems shouldn't reflect if a game is good or bad. It should reflect on if vista is good or bad.

[Edited on 07.15.2007 7:27 PM PDT]

  • 07.15.2007 7:26 PM PDT
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Most of the PC issues posted here are the result of PEBKAC.

I'm beginning to get annoyed at the amount of ignorance and bigotry in this forum.

  • 07.15.2007 7:48 PM PDT
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Most of the PC issues posted here are the result of PEBKAC.

Posted by: No Refunds
Halo 2 vista is way ahead of Halo PC in compatibility, I can tell you that much now. Neither games run well, but if you didn't have a good card back when Halo PC was out, you basically would end up with a half white screen or no textures at all. However, on Halo 2 Vista, you simply won't be running it on 1900 x 1200 with 4x AA and all the specs on high while running every other program possible in the background. Oh poor you.

I can run the game fine on 1280 x 720 with 4xAA and on high. And I have a 7600gt, which is only a mediocre card. I don't see what everyone is complaining about.


Sorry about the double post, but I have the same card and I am running with the same settings and it runs fine. Most people with video problems are usually folks who bought brand new computers and don't know how to properly configure them for best performance.

  • 07.15.2007 7:49 PM PDT