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How about we keep out of their way, this is like the battle of the legends, round 2. Only thing that could make this better, is better internet (yes, I can pull the fact my internet sucks into any conversation at will), and some triple scoop Ice cream, and while I'm at it, a splash of Samuel Adams.

  • 07.19.2007 7:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: Omnios
Amidst all the arguing there is an answer: It sucks.


*worships*

[Edited on 07.19.2007 8:26 PM PDT]

  • 07.19.2007 8:26 PM PDT
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Well, myself and Static decided we both had valid points in our discussions and left it, but...

Posted by: fred_mognet
I cant remember who but some one said ur GPU will suffer when ur CPU is at 100... Must say ur wrong NVIDIA and ATI dont make graphics cards for the fun of it, the whole point in making graphic cards is to lower ur CPU cycle even cut it out all together


GPU's have special instruction sets for dealing with graphics that CPU's do not have, but then again they aren't used for dealing with anything non graphical. They're a supplement to a CPU, not a replacement.

GPU's haven't been around that long in terms of how long computers have been. As graphical demands grew, so the GPU was born I suppose.

CPU will nearly become useless as the graphic card will to all the calculation such as physics

I can't see the GPU being used for physics calculations anytime soon. There are already special physics cards on the market, but with dual cores/quad cores we may see these being used for more complex physics sooner or later.

Posted by: fred_mognet
The only reason the CPU is creases is its gotta go the the games code a lot farster, in saying thay it sill does not have any relation the graphics side of things....


Moderns games put a lot of extra load on a CPU because of far more advanced physics engines and AI requiring some quite complex maths solving.

[Edited on 07.19.2007 9:38 PM PDT]

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Actually Btcc all high end graphics cards can do physics... in some cases better than the Physx. cards.
Fred.... I can barely read what you write, but a GPU does graphics all by itself. It can't take cycles off a CPU because as Btcc said a CPU can't do graphics. A dedicated Ethernet card like the Killer NIC card, and sound cards like the XFI however WILL free up CPU cycles because they take over tasks the CPU usually does. Of course it also does AI and much of the physics... which is why physics cards are dying. Multi core CPU's can handle it.

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Posted by: Desert Fox RWTF
How about we keep out of their way, this is like the battle of the legends, round 2. Only thing that could make this better, is better internet (yes, I can pull the fact my internet sucks into any conversation at will), and some triple scoop Ice cream, and while I'm at it, a splash of Samuel Adams.


Why is it round 2?

  • 07.19.2007 10:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: fred_mognet
Bull -blam!- a CPU can do graphics, but rather slow process, that is y graphics card does all the graphics side of thing and soon thay will nearly take over the CPU side of thing as well as thay get some what rather advansed... The whole reason of a graphics card is ta simpley free up lotta CPU cycles.... And i mean a lot of CPU cycles by at least 1000% with ur latest new brute NVIDIA card SLI....

Same with a sound card, u could let ur CPU do all the work, but it be much farster for a sound card to do it.

Again all of this is to loosen the load of the CPU, couse y would manufactures design and build these cards just ta make ur computer look good....
I think you are confused.

[Edited on 07.20.2007 5:29 AM PDT]

  • 07.20.2007 5:28 AM PDT

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(Double post)- Go easy on the submit button.
But, if you can get a computer running with a gpu, then be my guest to "teach" us about how a cpu isn't needed, the fact is there are some things you don't know that are important to a cpu that isn't found in a gpu, and things a gpu uses that can't be found on a cpu, take for instance, the dvi or analog interface, just one of many things exclusive to the gpu.

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Posted by: fred_mognet
Havent u ever played some games using Software Rendering, i think the original Unreal supported this feature....

also there are some emulator such as playstation emulator also supported this feature, its rather slow but a cpu can do all the graphics...

Yes, I have played software rendered games, still do. I didn't say a cpu couldn't do it, but I'm also not the one who said "and soon thay will nearly take over the CPU side of thing as well as thay get some what rather advansed... ", which in short means, you think that cpus will be replaced by gpus, which isn't the case. Unless you can run a pc off of a gpu. And, you think, that just because a cpu can do software rendering makes it more capable than a gpu? There is a reason they made gpus after they came up with that, because gpus were way better than software renderings.

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Posted by: Omnios
Amist all the arguing there is an answer: It sucks.


Well, that's close. It (Vista or Halo 2) sucks unless you have a system designed to run it. ;-)

  • 07.20.2007 6:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: fred_mognet
Why doesn't anyone play this game?

So lets just some it up...

$100 for Halo2Vista
Not hardly.
$400 - $500 for Vista
$120 is more like it.
$1000 for a decent graphics card
Wow, you got ripped off, I got 2 8800 GTX Ultras for about $900.

kinda self explainatry if u ask me... So expesive to get H2V running...
My Geforce 4 cards would'nt even start H2V...
It's because it isn't even as the minimum, it is your own fault for not reading the requirements. And, it's not that expensive, you can get a decent pc for $600-$700, easy.

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So u need $1500 of ur hard earned cash just ta play a game, i hope thay added more graphics on the PC version for this cost....
Your cost is bogus.

[Edited on 07.20.2007 2:34 PM PDT]

  • 07.20.2007 2:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

I payed $50 and that was just for the game.

  • 07.20.2007 3:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: vincent5
This thread deserves facepalm.


I concur.

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Posted by: fred_mognet
Bull -blam!- a CPU can do graphics, but rather slow process, that is y graphics card does all the graphics side of thing and soon thay will nearly take over the CPU side of thing as well as thay get some what rather advansed... The whole reason of a graphics card is ta simpley free up lotta CPU cycles.... And i mean a lot of CPU cycles by at least 1000% with ur latest new brute NVIDIA card SLI....

Same with a sound card, u could let ur CPU do all the work, but it be much farster for a sound card to do it.

Again all of this is to loosen the load of the CPU, couse y would manufactures design and build these cards just ta make ur computer look good....


Okay to start CPU CAN'T do graphics. You're wrong, straight up. It can do 2d graphics, old "doom" 3d graphics, and that's it. Find one computer with no GPU that can run Call of Duty 2 and you get a cookie.
The only thing you're right about in that entire post is the sound card. Yes, you can get 7.1 surround sound with a CPU but it will kill your FPS.

  • 07.20.2007 4:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

As usual, ryanman is wrong. A CPU CAN DO graphics, just not well.

  • 07.20.2007 4:43 PM PDT

Posted by: staticx576
As usual, ryanman is wrong. A CPU CAN DO graphics, just not well.

  • 07.20.2007 4:56 PM PDT
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That's what I said. It can "do" crappy graphics with the support of a mobo chipset. Without a chipset on a motherboard, It can't. You keep completely misunderstanding my posts.

[Edited on 07.20.2007 6:27 PM PDT]

  • 07.20.2007 6:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

And you continue the march of ignorance. Yes you can run any graphics engine without ANY GPU what so ever. Go look it up. The whole purpose of the GPU is to do it FASTER.

  • 07.20.2007 6:46 PM PDT