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Posted by: Shadow2

just to name a few programs that dont work on vista, counter-strike 1.6 doesn't run in opengl, sound blaster drivers echo if its 5.1, fraps full version won't start, windows live messenger wont run with certain nvidia cards after a certain update, halo 1 PC you can't see text chat, sharing files over lan doesn't work with vista as it can't see XP comps, and vice versa, it runs games overall a little bit slower than in xp, more processes are running in background, etc, i could go on...

i just have xp and vista duel boot, never needed to find a reason to use vista except to play halo 2


I see text in Halo PC, I have no problem sharing files with either of my Xp rigs and i havent had any problems with Fraps working. Everyone said the same thing when Xp first came out, it has more processes running , its a memory hog, yadda ,yadda and yadda. Funny how the same ppl that bashed Xp when it first came out are now defending it, lol, i get a good laugh every time i read comments like these. Thank you.

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  • 07.16.2007 8:04 PM PDT
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buy a 360. buy halo 3. go have a -blam!- party

  • 07.16.2007 8:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: JustBringIt69


I see text in Halo PC, I have no problem sharing files with either of my Xp rigs and i havent had any problems with Fraps working. Everyone said the same thing when Xp first came out, it has more processes running , its a memory hog, yadda ,yadda and yadda. Funny how the same ppl that bashed Xp when it first came out are now defending it, lol, i get a good laugh every time i read comments like these. Thank you.


That's because it is now a great operating system!
After service packs, the bugs were fixed. Since computers are more powerful, it's a lightweight operating system that works quickly and the way you think it should. It has the highest compatibility on the planet, despite these unverifiable adectotes you hear from guys who bought Vista

Funny how some people treat XP like they they were running it on a Pentium Three with 64mb of RAM and the gaping issues in it before SP2 like Vista is now instead of like it is today. I laugh every time I read comments like that.

  • 07.16.2007 9:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Or maybe you just have no experience with Vista what so ever and assume since it's new it's a terrible operating system. The pure fact that you refuse to even try H2V discredits anything you have to say about it because guess what you don't have first hand experience with it. If there are 12 year olds playing H2V and believe me there are then there isn't any reason people should be having trouble with the game beyond something on their end.

  • 07.16.2007 9:25 PM PDT
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I HAVE used vista. I find it's new "security" features annoying, it pissed me off how it didn't let the person I was helping run an incredible basic program for warranty purposes on the new laptop (with a core 2 duo and a gig of RAM it was still laggy when running more than three things). I found it to be a great ripoff of some of the stupider Ideas from OSX. The aeroglass interface was nothing more than eye candy and was the only significant change, which was not worth 170 bucks. I have used it and I thought it was absolutely worthless.

As for Halo 2, it was a crap game to begin with. Just because I haven't actually experienced the bugs doesn't mean that everyone else that comes crying on this forum about it not working is lying through their teeth, while you and the two other guys that got it to work OBVIOUSLY had everything work for you perfectly the first time had before two doves land on your lap after H2V booted.

[Edited on 07.16.2007 9:45 PM PDT]

  • 07.16.2007 9:39 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Posted by: Ryanman7
I HAVE used vista. I find it's new "security" features annoying

Then turn it off, it's not rocket science here.
Posted by: Ryanman7
it pissed me off how it didn't let the person I was helping run an incredible basic program for warranty purposes on the new laptop (with a core 2 duo and a gig of RAM it was still laggy when running more than three things).

Well guess what, XP sucks with 1GB of ram as well.
Posted by: Ryanman7
I found it to be a great ripoff of some of the stupider Ideas from OSX.

Idea's in OSX? There isn't anything terribly original in OSX either.
Posted by: Ryanman7
The aeroglass interface was nothing more than eye candy and was the only significant change, which was not worth 170 bucks. I have used it and I thought it was absolutely worthless.

Then don't buy it, but whining isn't going to change anything, go start an online petition.
Posted by: Ryanman7
As for Halo 2, it was a crap game to begin with. Just because I haven't actually experienced the bugs doesn't mean that everyone else that comes crying on this forum about it not working is lying through their teeth,

The people with trouble make the most noise as the people that have it working are too busy playing it, guess what you hear the most of?
Posted by: Ryanman7
while you and the two other guys that got it to work OBVIOUSLY had everything work for you perfectly the first time had before two doves land on your lap after H2V booted.

It seems all of the people that had it not work were all the experts, gurus, professionals, and veterans with computers that can run any game released in the next ten years, oh yeah...

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Posted by: staticx576
Well guess what, XP sucks with 1GB of ram as well.

I honestly cannot understand why you could possibly say that. 1GB on XP is freakin amazing, it runs like butter.

Posted by: staticx576
Then don't buy it, but whining isn't going to change anything, go start an online petition.


Like I said before, I obviously didn't. It seems like quite a few other people also didn't want to upgrade either. I'm not whining, I'm trying to explain why I think the whole H2v situation is driving people away as bad as Halo 1 did.

Posted by: staticx576
Then turn it off, it's not rocket science here.


Why couldn't Vista ask if I was a total idiot before assuming so? Running a program and deleting a file are the REAL things that aren't rocket science.

and yeah I'm not close to an IT pro. I built my own computer and am pretty much midrange on computer literacy, that's pretty much it. : D



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  • 07.16.2007 10:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

You know what they say fred_mognet, ignorance is bliss.

  • 07.16.2007 10:58 PM PDT

Posted by: Duardo
I'd love to be a 10 year old and tell my mom I'm going on an adventure out into the world catching Pokemon, with her full support. Never mind the fact that there are rapists, criminals, and murders out there, or the fact that I may get killed by a Pokemon.

Luckily I have Pikachu.

I actually like Vista, alot more secure than XP ever will be.

The only problem I have is that it takes up alot of resources.

  • 07.16.2007 11:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: Ryanman7
That's because it is now a great operating system!
After service packs, the bugs were fixed.


Now if its so great and the bugs are all fixed then why is it ppl still have problems with Xp and thy are still waiting for a Sp3? Hell, just do a Google search and you will find tons of forums with every problem imaginable with Xp, but yet its so great? Lol.

posted by:Ryanman7
Since computers are more powerful, it's a lightweight operating system that works quickly and the way you think it should. It has the highest compatibility on the planet.


So i guess that you will be defending Vista once YOUR problems are all fixed? Yes i say YOUR problems cause i haven't had any.

Too bad UAC cant detect an idiot sitting at the keyboard, i can see the pop-up now " Sorry but you don't have the intelligence to perform that operation, windows will now close, have a nice day".

  • 07.17.2007 3:05 AM PDT
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cuz vista sucks take to much ram, ect:
and alot of people have windows xp, there not going to spend 100£+ on vista for halo2, micosoft made a bad move.

  • 07.17.2007 6:16 AM PDT

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fred_mognet, you have already proven how stupid you are, but wow, you keepon proving science wrong. Stop insulting those with higher brain funtions than your's, hey wait, that's everyone. No one will pay serious attention to you because you type and word your sentences like one fuzzy bunny. So, instead of making it look like a toddler got a hold of your keyboard, go play in traffic, or go take some kindergarten grammer classes.

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Posted by: fred_mognet
JustBringIt69 ???? God some people can baffle on with a lot of S H I T....

The only reason u have no problams is becouse u havent even used it...
Come on Make Vista work and ull see how crap it is, just go do something....
Of couse u not gonna get any problams if u boot up Vista and just look at the Desktop All Day...
Go play a game, Go install Nero 6 or less, Go Play SMRR, Go play Max Payne, Go Play Delta Force


First off dumb ass i do use it, Photoshop, H2V with dedicated server on another Vista rig, HaloPc, ShadowRun,Q4,UT2K4,Guild Wars, NFSMW, 3DMax 7, ZD soft game recorder, Alcohol 120, Daemon tools, ObjectDock, fraps, EMule, Teamspeak with server, Yahoo messenger and all my Steam client games, should i keep going? Before you make stupid comments you should think before you type. Man its stupid ppl like you that give the human race a bad name.
Second, go pick up a book and start reading cause its obvious that running a computer is to complicated for you plus the obvious fact that your spelling could use some work.


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Posted by: CrinnyCow
I was just wondering why not so many people play this game. I bought it thinking the online community would be somewhat strong but I have never seen any more than 57 servers online and less than half had people in them and even less than that had a playable amount of people in them. Halo 1 has more servers than this every day! So...why aren't people playing!?

Edit: Do you think it will get better? as in do you think more people will start playing anytime soon?


The maps that came with the game are not as fun as in Halo 1; I find the maps a bit too small. Also, I don't have time to mess around with the map editor; I'm one of those people who would just jump into a game and play.

I also have an attachment to how Halo 1 was played: I personally feel the multiplayer game play was faster paced in 1 than 2, weapons feel slow in H2V;
the fact that there's no fall damage makes the game feel weird.

Maybe if Bungie put out some dedicated servers, I'd go into H2V MP more often and I'd ignore the flaws.

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Perhaps I should have kept going in my post from earlier. Remember my point about how games don't use the same engine? Well NOT EVERY COMPUTER IS IDENTICAL. Everyone has problems on every OS. XP, Vista, DOS 3.0, Ubuntu, all of them. To think that you would be so self-centered as to think that EVERYONE has the same -blam!- as you is beyond me. "Oh no, I can't run my -blam!- organizing hardware! Everyone must have the same problem!" No, dip-blam!-, that's your problem. News flash: not all of us have the same stuff as you. I will admit, I have had a problem or two with my X-Fi console. It doesn't mean that it's going to stay that way, idiot! This may come as a surprise, but things can be fixed with magical files called patches and driver updates! Sometimes they can even be called "service packs"! Another surprise, XP had these! Could that possibly mean that maybe XP had the same problems as Vista when it first came out? No way, XP was definitely perfect to start with, they just felt like making a new OS anyway. Dumbass.

It's also amazing to see someone like Ryanman or fred_whatever have the audacity to point out things that they believe to be useless and think that nobody else needs it. Aw, poor baby, don't like the security? Then turn it off -blam!-, if you don't need it, don't use it. Though from what I've seen, you probably need such security from the "special sites" you most likely go to.

Even further, you go on to say that Aero or other graphic modifications are the biggest change in the system, implying that you've looked into every change in the OS and know everything about it. This, obviously, is complete bull-blam!-. This not only shows that you pay more attention to this "eye candy" than the system's actual functions, but also shows along with your other technical inaccuracies that you know next to jack -blam!- about computers. I truly wish that I could throw shiny objects through the Internet, so that I could distract you away from these forums.

Well, until next time, shut the -blam!- up so there won't have to be a next time.

EDIT- I should have also pointed out that some hardware is just too damn old to support. Thinking your old scanner from the mid 90's should still be supported is also ridiculous. May as well say, "Wah, my ENIAC isn't compatible with Vista!"

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Posted by: JustBringIt69
Now if its so great and the bugs are all fixed then why is it ppl still have problems with Xp and thy are still waiting for a Sp3? Hell, just do a Google search and you will find tons of forums with every problem imaginable with Xp, but yet its so great? Lol.


If i read your post right, your counterpoint doesn't make much sense. When you consider the number of people using XP, how many have a bug or a crash due to the operating system? or is it usually because they mess something up? I could bet that the majority of those forum "problems with XP" were solvable with some simple troubleshooting. Even so, you're talking about, at worst, hundreds of cases from the past 6 months. Considering the millions of people who use XP, that's just not enough to say that Vista is better.
Just from my personal experience, a huge fraction of the people I know who have Vista are having trouble with it. NOBODY I know is having a problem due to XP. Why are we waiting for SP3? XP is definitely not perfect - the more SP's the better in my opinion. Despite that I'm not waiting for it - I could care less if M$ gives us a service pack because for me and everyone I know XP is working fine.

Posted by: JustBringIt69
So i guess that you will be defending Vista once YOUR problems are all fixed? Yes i say YOUR problems cause i haven't had any.


You're right, I will. Once my gaming friends stop asking me how to make it work, once my neighbors stop complaining about how slow it is, once I get a new family computer and everything works on it then YES I will start "defending Vista". It will become a mature operating system like XP through service packs and developer experience, and then I might even buy it for my gaming computer.

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Posted by: Shdwsnipa
Perhaps I should have kept going in my post from earlier. Remember my point about how games don't use the same engine? Well NOT EVERY COMPUTER IS IDENTICAL. Everyone has problems on every OS. XP, Vista, DOS 3.0, Ubuntu, all of them. To think that you would be so self-centered as to think that EVERYONE has the same -blam!- as you is beyond me. "Oh no, I can't run my -blam!- organizing hardware! Everyone must have the same problem!" No, dip-blam!-, that's your problem. News flash: not all of us have the same stuff as you. I will admit, I have had a problem or two with my X-Fi console. It doesn't mean that it's going to stay that way, idiot! This may come as a surprise, but things can be fixed with magical files called patches and driver updates! Sometimes they can even be called "service packs"! Another surprise, XP had these! Could that possibly mean that maybe XP had the same problems as Vista when it first came out? No way, XP was definitely perfect to start with, they just felt like making a new OS anyway. Dumbass.

It's also amazing to see someone like Ryanman or fred_whatever have the audacity to point out things that they believe to be useless and think that nobody else needs it. Aw, poor baby, don't like the security? Then turn it off -blam!-, if you don't need it, don't use it. Though from what I've seen, you probably need such security from the "special sites" you most likely go to.

Even further, you go on to say that Aero or other graphic modifications are the biggest change in the system, implying that you've looked into every change in the OS and know everything about it. This, obviously, is complete bull-blam!-. This not only shows that you pay more attention to this "eye candy" than the system's actual functions, but also shows along with your other technical inaccuracies that you know next to jack -blam!- about computers. I truly wish that I could throw shiny objects through the Internet, so that I could distract you away from these forums.

Well, until next time, shut the -blam!- up so there won't have to be a next time.


You're still comparing Vista to XP like it was when it was released. Like you said, Service Packs come out. and XP is not the same. XP was arguably worse off than Vista - It had massive security issues that Vista didn't have at launch.

Not everyone has the same problem, but if you check the percentages people have more problems on Vista than on XP. It's new, it's relatively unpatched, We KNOW this and like I said in my previous post I have no doubt that once compatibility issues are fixed Vista will be superior. But you all keep talking about the past and the future here - I'm talking about now.

Why should I have to sift through the OS looking for minor changes that Microsoft decided would be better? Go ahead and name the other huge changes that Vista Brings to the table that make it worthwhile. The only huge change that is evident to most user's is aeroglass. Is it useless? not quite. It looks pretty and has some basic functionality improvements. Is it worth 170 bucks? (oh yeah, and H2V compatibility) That's the question you have to ask and I'm saying that most users are gonna say no.

Posted by: Shdwsnipa
Though from what I've seen, you probably need such security from the "special sites" you most likely go to.


Congratz. You're trying to insult someone over the internet because of an operating system/game discussion which means you're cool.

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Posted by: Ryanman7
Once my gaming friends stop asking me how to make it work, once my neighbors stop complaining about how slow it is, once I get a new family computer and everything works on it then YES I will start "defending Vista". It will become a mature operating system like XP through service packs and developer experience, and then I might even buy it for my gaming computer.
Well, I will cut you some slack because you understand the concept of "there are -blam!- service packs, be patient."

I must however, point out that your gaming friends and your neighbors are probably idiots that have the technical knowledge of a chimp. I can bet good money that your gaming friends are probably the kind of PC gamers that know how to smelt a +50 deuhnbhu ore of the crecensi mountains, but couldn't tell you what RAM stands for. There are morons like this everywhere.

As for anyone complaining about how slow it is, I can say this and this only: YOUR COMPUTER IS THE ONE THAT'S SLOW, NOT THE OS. Saying that the OS is slow is basically saying that they have inefficient code, which would obviously make no sense considering that they technically can't make anything less efficient than their previous systems unless they were TRYING to lose business. Please, find out their specs and PM them to me, or post them here, anywhere. I can guarantee you that somewhere they're running at minimum requirements. It could be one spec, it could be all of them, even one spec could be causing it. Though many people understand this, there is a surprising number of people who don't know how to interpret minimum/recommended requirements.

Minimum means it is just enough to technically run, it won't run well at all, it can just run. Recommended means that it can run and it can run at a reasonable rate. It's good on a budget. if you really want to be as smooth as butter, you want to go levels above that. In my opinion, there should be a third level of requirements, called "Enthusiast Requirements." This would be the level that you see in those movies/demos or whatever. This would probably show people how big of a difference it is to have the minimum and to have the level that really is as fast as people want it to be. This picture properly expresses the level of speed that each level of requirements runs.

EDIT:
Congratz. You're trying to insult someone over the internet because of an operating system/game discussion which means you're cool.
I'll admit, I'm not really that cool. Even if I wanted to be, wasn't trying with that sentence. Just a little touch. Would it make you feel better if I said I was thinking of that fred guy at the time?

I will say that you are more articulate than most people on the forum, and I respect that. Looking at the last few posts, I think we can agree that yes, it is a bit messy and things will be patched up over time. The only thing left I have to question is the speed of the computers you and your friends are using. Other than that, *shakes hand* gg bro.

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To Ryanman7
OK i misunderstood what you were saying. yes i agree that NOW Xp is a good operating system but i don't agree with ppl saying that Vista is the worst ever. Give it some time and you and others will see that Vista will be better than Xp. One thing though, if your friends are gamers then they should actually have some pretty good rigs, running Vista on them shouldn't be an issue. Hell mine isn't all that and thing run nice and smooth here, specs in avatar thingy, lol.

  • 07.17.2007 1:12 PM PDT

Slaying noobs since 2007.

Vista can't possibly be the worst ever, look at Bob.

  • 07.17.2007 1:13 PM PDT