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Subject: American Arrogance
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I am Australian and I find Americans comstantly calling me a British F***. I am not British!

Ameircans have a huge advantage on xbox live because when they get host I can't touch them with a BR from any distance over 30m. When I get host they accuse me of standbying and/or modding.

Then they tell me they are "better" than me just because they come from America. 99% of trashtalkers on xbox live are Americans. I am 16 and have many other Aussie and New Zealand friends and we don't trash talk at all. What are you teaching your kids over there?

  • 07.09.2007 3:47 AM PDT

Whatever, LlMEY!


Just kidding. It sucks that you have a big latency disadvantage, the problem is that halo 2 doesn't seem to care about location and will put you randomly in a pool of 7 other english-speaking players. Because the majority of players are in north america, this means the average british or aussie player will find themselves the only ones in the game - therefore no chance of hosting - and a lot further from the host than everyone else, meaning a bigger delay, meaning an uphill fight.

Hopefully in Halo 3, we will be matched by connection and location better. And as for americans being more mouthy, I'm not touching that one with a 10 foot barge pole.

  • 07.09.2007 3:56 AM PDT
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I always enter matchmaking with a party of 4 and we have good connections and we only get host 1 in 10 times average. I can keep 16 americans in 9/10ths green bar. I am always in yellow.

You have given my some hope that there are nice people in your country.

  • 07.09.2007 4:00 AM PDT

Why they are calling you british I dont know. I have yet to play a british person on xbox live. As for the host thing I have no idea why it is that way, something to do with the format of electronics being different, or the internet connection being different or something, thats what I've heard anyway. As for the trash talking part, yes many of us do talk trash, I dont, and I dont like being put with the majority of those immature people who do. Yes I am American, but you are right about some people being arrogant, but the majority of us are not, its just that you see the worst of it on xbox live because those people take the game way too serious and figure that if they cant beat you in the game they will try to make you mad by talking trash and claiming that they are better than you. I wish everyone could get along and just play the game to have fun, not make it an insult contest. I respect your opinion, even if I may/may not agree with it.

  • 07.09.2007 4:04 AM PDT

Yeah, because Australia is a big country it's expensive to upgrade our internet technology, so we're kinda behind.

  • 07.09.2007 4:16 AM PDT

It shouldnt matter where you are from, all people want to do is play the game. I wish I knew why so many people had to talk trash, it drives me crazy. One thing I do notice is that the ones who trash talk seem to have no life, if you look at their games list you see 12 hours of playing, the 10 hours of break time to sleep then right back into the game again. ITS A GAME PEOPLE NOT A WAY OF LIFE!!!! My theory is play nice or dont play at all.

  • 07.09.2007 4:24 AM PDT
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Honestly ive met trash talkers from EVERYWHERE, there are just more americans than aussies on XBL

  • 07.09.2007 4:33 AM PDT

I go by many names, Shinigami, osiris, thanatos, Ares are but a few. But my name is not important for i am god and i am coming for you.

i am a master of my trade with these two hands i create great works. What is it i do?? ... well lets hope for your sake you never find out.

Like guns?? so do we, join Halo Armory and you can too

I agree with you there Dr the main reason i dont play halo 2 often anymore is from all the trashtalk. (Majority are americans but they have the larger majority of players so meh) im british and i actually find it funny when all people can come up with is, "Go have your tea and crumpets" have they ever had crumpets lol?? they are damn nice. im from the north east of england and so have a goerdie accent, ive been mistaken for aussies, Irish, Scottish and french (how the -blam!- i dont know, they got me on that one)

its a shame that people cant just play the game for fun as i enjoy talking and having a laugh with people from different countries, part of the whole xbox live experience thing.

i look forward to beating... i mean fighting you all on halo 3 when its released. till then cheerio :P

-Moochkin

P.S. People who trash talk REALLY hate it when you sing "We are the champions" in the endgame lobby whether you won or lost. i think its because they can hear there own abuse being drowned out by us lol.

  • 07.09.2007 4:34 AM PDT

Posted by: sean rulz
You have given my some hope that there are nice people in your country.

Sorry to crush that hope mate, but I'm English!

  • 07.09.2007 4:41 AM PDT

Mate I totally see where you're coming from. E.G, on host which I've gotten maybe 5 times in my whole time playing H2, I drop guys with BR's in 4 or 5 shots every time. But when it's an American host, I normally have to empty an entire clip. Same thing goes for running away from getting shot. I'll run around a corner, and be away from fire, but then I die and get thrown back to being back around that corner (if you understand what I'm saying). It's pretty much impossible to kill anyone with a BR unless you're relatively close to them (e.g same range as a plasma rifle). And don't even get me started about the sword. You will lunge, but go straight through them, and they just turn around and melee you in the back and then start yelling "OMG WHAT A SWORD NOOB".

ANd I get the British thing as well, don't know where that comes from. I rarely, if ever go into matchmaking by myself anymore, as I just know I'm going to be in yellow the whole time. I hope H3 has some kind of filter to make players in your location a priority. I'd rather play against guys 20 levels above me than someone on the other side of the world, because if I get beat by them I know it's because they are better than me, not because their internet speed is.

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Then get a better internet connection, or don't play Xbox live at all. There's always going to be trash talkers. NOT 99% of them are American. Don't complain because most of the people that play Xbox live are American and that people from other countries, (Not Canada/Mexico) get bad lag because of it. If you really care so much about lag and can't get a better connection then just move to America.

P.S. If someone trash talks you then just mute them.

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  • 07.09.2007 5:19 AM PDT
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Country of origin stereotyping isn't the way to go mate.
More Americans means more Nasty people.
I've heard about every type of horrible things come from every type of accent.
English, Scottish, Irish, French, and Austrialian. Mostly American English. More Americans = More Idiots.
I think that it doesn't matter where you come from there are idiots everywhere.

I personally play like I'd want my kids to play ball on our local team. With sportsmanship, meaning being a good teammate and opponent whether I win or lose.

I'm from the state of Ohio in the United States.

  • 07.09.2007 5:22 AM PDT

Posted by: Fire power rule
Then get a better internet connection, or don't play Xbox live at all.

When you don't even begin to understand the topic, it's better to just not post at all than to post something ignorant and inflammatory.

  • 07.09.2007 5:27 AM PDT
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Posted by: Fire power rule
Then get a better internet connection, or don't play Xbox live at all.

When you don't even begin to understand the topic, it's better to just not post at all than to post something ignorant and inflammatory.


He said American hosts are bad because he cant BR well. THAT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH CONNECTION.

  • 07.09.2007 5:41 AM PDT
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Your suggestion is to move to America. I am 16! I have a part time job earning $12 an hour. Upgrade my connection. My connection is probably better than yours you fool. I don't want to have to mute the other team becuase then I can't hear thier stradegy and it takes a long time to mute 4 people.

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He said American hosts are bad because he cant BR well. THAT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH CONNECTION. [/quote]

Firepower. I am a much better player than you. Yor kill death ration is .59. All you do is play swat and customs. You have played 200 and something games. I play slayer, skirmish, snipers and double team. I have played 9200 games and have been playing halo for 3 years. My kill death ration is 1.3 or 1.03, I can't remember. I have 45000 kills. So shut up because you have no idea what you are talking about. If you want to take it further my gamertag is "Dark Wizard43". We can have a 1v1 on midship with rifles on an Australian host. You won't get past 5 kills i garuntee it. I'll be on in about 14 hours.

  • 07.09.2007 5:46 AM PDT

Posted by: Fire power rule
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Posted by: Fire power rule
Then get a better internet connection, or don't play Xbox live at all.

When you don't even begin to understand the topic, it's better to just not post at all than to post something ignorant and inflammatory.


He said American hosts are bad because he cant BR well. THAT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH CONNECTION.

You don't understand what he said, and you don't seem to even understand the actual problem behind what he is complaining about. All you are doing is proving him right.

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To the OP.......im english and also have the same problems as you. Being so far away from host ( america ) is such a massive dis-advantage when playing over live. Its so damn frustating, but like me you should just come to live with it and laugh it off. Like rhythmkiller said, hopefully for halo 3, connections and the way the game is played online would have changed.........But this is where the american arrogance has come from ?

Americans DO think they are head and shoulders above everyone else online.......why ? cos their connections are better, with NO lag at all. It was sumed up and confirmed when a guy ( from america ) posted on this site not so long ago. He explained how he had moved to germany from america for family reasons and actually commented that he found it very difficult to play halo online from a european country. he said he struggled to compeat as his fellow americans owned him, due to the fact he was playing from EUROPE.....hahaha lag and latency.

Im constantly being reminded im a british F***er and should go and brush my teeth etc.....LOL even Irish, Scottish, Australian..........What i want to know is......tell me america ? is insulting someones accent THE ultimate insult ? cos thats all i ever hear ! do you not understand that people talk differently from other parts of the world ?

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Posted by: sean rulz
He said American hosts are bad because he cant BR well. THAT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH CONNECTION. [/quote]

Firepower. I am a much better player than you. Yor kill death ration is .59. All you do is play swat and customs. You have played 200 and something games. I play slayer, skirmish, snipers and double team. I have played 9200 games and have been playing halo for 3 years. My kill death ration is 1.3 or 1.03, I can't remember. I have 45000 kills. So shut up because you have no idea what you are talking about. If you want to take it further my gamertag is "Dark Wizard43". We can have a 1v1 on midship with rifles on an Australian host. You won't get past 5 kills i garuntee it. I'll be on in about 14 hours.


what a jerk............wow

I thought only american people challenged 1 v 1............how sad that you think playing 1 v 1 is proving something. Does it make you feel better that proving your better at a video game in which a robot is running around killing aliens ( top and bottom of it ) ?? i bet your mum and dad are proud

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  • 07.09.2007 6:00 AM PDT

Posted by: WolfmanMaverick
You people have just sent my sides into orbit. A bunch of MLG try hards sucking the dick of some supposed pro half the thread hasn't even heard of. Classic.

I have heard trash talking from every country on Xbox Live and MM. It is just that since Americans are the one of the largest pops on it you hear it more. If you think I am kidding play with people like Pez, Ash, and Trig. They talk trash and so do I. So I am going to lock this thread before it gets way out of hand.

  • 07.09.2007 6:01 AM PDT