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Well, the old one got deleted so, I figured we should make a new one.

Submit your theories and vids here.

  • 07.09.2007 6:25 AM PDT
Subject: TSHGTBC -- AS -- TSFTUE The new search for the truth
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Yay, I loved this thread!

  • 07.09.2007 6:29 AM PDT
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I don't know if they posted this in the previous thread, but here it goes anyways =þ

In Outskirts, the waterwall, it has a wierd picture one it.
It looks like some kind of a map...
Let me give you a good view:

The Waterwall: http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z249/ShadoxCJ/Waterwall.jp g
Part of the beaches: http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z249/ShadoxCJ/Beach1.jpg
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z249/ShadoxCJ/Beach2.jpg
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z249/ShadoxCJ/Beach3.jpg
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z249/ShadoxCJ/Beach4.jpg

Compared: http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z249/ShadoxCJ/WaterwallCon ections.jpg

[This find is not mine though... So don't give me the credits.]

So is this some sort of clue? Or just some sick prank Bungie is pulling upon us...again.
Maybe the splashing, when you shoot on it, hints something is in the water.
Although I've been in the water for 817235498765237 times, I didn't find a thing.
Maybe you guys can find something with this clue.

PS: I'll be hiding in the background watching you guys and letting you know when I find something.

  • 07.09.2007 7:15 AM PDT

I've been here longer than it says. I've been on the forums since about 8/06.
Posted by: Nedus
Walshy dropped from final boss? What dungeon? We killed the final boss in Karazhan but no Walshy dropped...just the bow and the T4 helm.

why did it get deleted?

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WTF?? all that information and veerything is gone? no way man

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Yeah it got deleted

  • 07.09.2007 8:04 AM PDT
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Oh everyone read the top post on the new mombasa thing!!!!!!!!!! Thats where it went. Ih ope bungie gets everything back :[ so much time and effort, all lost to a hacker, im gonna go ...punch something

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I hope we dont lose any people. I'll message them and let them know what's going on. The post said bungie is trying to get the threads back so hopefully this one will be top on their list.

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Posted by: Shadox
I don't know if they posted this in the previous thread, but here it goes anyways =þ

In Outskirts, the waterwall, it has a wierd picture one it.
It looks like some kind of a map...
Let me give you a good view:

The Waterwall: http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z249/ShadoxCJ/Waterwall.jp g
Part of the beaches: http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z249/ShadoxCJ/Beach1.jpg
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z249/ShadoxCJ/Beach2.jpg
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z249/ShadoxCJ/Beach3.jpg
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z249/ShadoxCJ/Beach4.jpg

Compared: http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z249/ShadoxCJ/WaterwallCon ections.jpg

[This find is not mine though... So don't give me the credits.]

So is this some sort of clue? Or just some sick prank Bungie is pulling upon us...again.
Maybe the splashing, when you shoot on it, hints something is in the water.
Although I've been in the water for 817235498765237 times, I didn't find a thing.
Maybe you guys can find something with this clue.

PS: I'll be hiding in the background watching you guys and letting you know when I find something.
Linked

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the old one got deleted? was it one of those h4x0r mods?

  • 07.09.2007 8:37 AM PDT
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Yes it's gone. And there was enough information there to stave off a hundred morons who woulda' posted here.
Seeing as it's gone, I can no longer accompany you guys. It's just not worth it. If they bring back the old thread, sure, but as is, I doubt any of the leaders will stay or come back.

  • 07.09.2007 8:38 AM PDT
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This is exactly what I was afraid of. Sonic John will have his front page saved on Microsoft word or wherever he made it. But, until then, i will try to compile a list of things that will keep idiocy out of this thread. I've got a lot of things saved. This is unfortunate. All of our hard work, completely ruined beacause of one idiot. I will stay Janube. I'll PM you if anything comes up. Like the old thread coming back. I'll also PM Sonic and see if he's staying. I know ghost 22 will stay, and hopefully ted mouse and all of them.....what a mess...dangit

  • 07.09.2007 9:16 AM PDT
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=SKULL HISTORY=

The first appearance of the hidden skulls was revealed by the user Pirate117 on
the Bungie Forums in a topic titled "HIDDEN ITEM FOUND!!!!" What he revealed
was a secret area in "Outskirts" which contained a pair of scoped binoculars,
four frag grenades, and an Oddball skull that when picked up, it flashed the
words "Blind" on the bottom corner of the screen, and all items from his HUD
disappeared. This was a very significant find, but nobody knew what it could
mean. This caused much excitement on the Bungie Forums, which in turn leaked
into other forums and websites. Some speculated that the skull was for use in
the popular Halo comedy series "Red Vs. Blue" in order to get a full-screen
view of the action, but this "Blind Mode" only worked in single-player, so that
was ruled out. Others believed that this Pirate117 was a Bungie employee who
was setting everyone into the correct direction. Others believed he had
acquired the game before the release date, thus allowing him to have more time
to search for easter eggs such as this.

The conclusion was made that the three items together formed the phrase
"Search For Skulls", each acquiring meaning from the binoculars, four grenades,
and the skull. On a side note, the binoculars zoomed in at 8x instead of the
traditional sniper 10x; this may play an importance in the speculation as well.

It wasn't long before information about other skulls started to form together.
With a boost of confidence, many people began to extensively search all the
levels in Campaign mode, looking for more skulls. It was soon discovered that
most of the skulls could only be found in Legendary, thus scaring away the less-
than-stellar Halo 2 gamers from attempting to help solve this puzzle. With the
miniscule amount of information available about the skulls, some people took
advantage of this and reported legitimate-sounding fake skulls, thus screwing
some people up in their quest for the truth.

Lists began to be compiled, and many others tested the validity of each reported
skull, thus allowing progress to continue at a decent rate. As of now, there
have been fourteen confirmed skull findings, including the original Blind skull,
while there are still a couple odd skulls that cannot be fully confirmed or
tested due to complexities at this time.
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A list of Confirmed Skulls:
=EGATFIBGBCSIMAW=
Envy
Grunt Birthday Party
Assassins
Thunderstorm
Famine
I Would Have Been Your Daddy
Blind
Ghost
Black Eye
Catch
Sputnik
Iron
Mythic
Angry
W ??? WHUPPOPOTAMUS=COW BELL=UN-NAMED

=HEX CODE=

=SKULL EFFECTS/LOCATIONS=
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=ENVY=
Difficulty: Legendary
Level: Delta Halo
Words on screen: "Envy"
Effect: Active Camo takes the place of your flashlight. The camo acts just like Arbiter Active Camo.
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=GRUNT BIRTHDAY PARTY=
Difficulty: Legendary
Level: The Arbiter
Words on screen: "Grunt Birthday Party"
Effect: Headshots makes enemies explode
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=ASSASSINS=
Difficulty: Legendary
Level: Regret
Words on screen: "Assassins"
Effect: All enemies in game are permanently cloaked.
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=THUNDERSTORM=
Difficulty: Legendary
Level: Cairo Station
Words on screen: "Thunderstorm"
Effect: All convenant enemies become special ops.
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=FAMINE=
Difficulty: Legendary
Level: The Oracle
Words on screen: "Famine"
Effect: All found weapons have less ammo.
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=IWHBYD=
Difficulty: Legendary
Level: Outskirts (Spawns 1/7 attempts)
Words on Screen: "I Would Have Been Your Daddy"
Effect: AI's and NPC's say different phrases
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=BLIND=
Difficulty: Any
Level: Outskirts
Words on screen: "Blind"
Effect: There is no HUD or weapons on screen.
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=GHOST=
Difficulty: Legendary
Level: UprisingWords on screen: "Ghost"
Effect:Unknown. Some reports say enemies take longer to notice you or react to your presence.
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=BLACK EYE=
Difficulty: Legendary
Level: Great Journey
Words on screen: "Black Eye"
Effect:Your shield does not charge normally. To charge your shields you must melee enemies. You can charge your shields into the overcharge range doing this.
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=CATCH=
Difficulty: Legendary
Level: Metropolis
Words on screen: "Catch"
Effect: Enemies always drop 2 plasma grenades, and it appears that all enemies will toss more grenades in general.
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=SPUTNIK=
Difficulty: Legendary
Level: Quarantine Zone
Words on screen: "Sputnik"
Effect: The force of certain attacks and explosions is increased dramatically. The most obvious changes are to frag grenade explosions, rocket explosions, vehicle explosions, melee attacks, and plasma attacks from turrets and vehicles. What this increase in force means is that objects tend to go flying farther, making for some very crazy battles, or for some very nice height when frag grenade jumping. It's important to note that weapon damage is NOT changed. Also, when you melee attack an enemy from the front, you will hit them so hard it will turn them all the way around - giving you the perfect opportunity to get a mortal melee blow in.
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=IRON=
Difficulty: Legendary
Level: High Charity
Words on screen: "Iron"
Effect:When playing co-op, if either player dies the game restarts you at your last checkpoint. This effects all difficulties. Normally this only happens on Legendary.
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=MYTHIC=
Difficulty: Legendary
Level: Sacred Icon
Words on screen: "Mythic"
Effect: Unknown. Apparently enemies have more health, making them harder to kill, but this has not been proven.
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=ANGRY=
Difficulty: Legendary
Level: Gravemind
Words on screen: "Angry"
Effect: Grunts shoot much faster, and the Angry skull is the only known skull that can be cycled through, allowing you to use the skull as a third weapon.
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=UN-NAMED=
Difficulty: Legendary
Level: Armory
Words on screen: No words appear
Effect: Makes enemies more aware of your location.
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=JNAM ACRONYM=
Information given by Spar10
Also avery high possibility of being correct.

catche002.map file - Skull Order
The following are the seven Skulls related to the hints in the catche002.map file.

ASSASSINS
Hint: Watch your back, the Covenant are having a sale on Active Camo.
Obviously, it's the Assassins Skull. All enemies are camouflaged.
100% Assassins.

JUGGERNAUT
Hint: Brace yourself for baddies with overshields and boomsticks.
It's the Thunderstorm Skull. Overshields and boomsticks? That means the enemies are tough. But that means that the Mythic Skull can also be the one Juggernaut relates to (remember the Flood Juggeernaut? When you obtain the Mythic Skull, killing one of the Combat Forms was like trying to kill a Hunter with an SMG -- on Heroic).
60% Thunderstorm. 40% Mythic.

NOSFERATU
Hint: Sure you're tough, but now you must suck to survive.
Vampires suck blood. Nosferatu was a vampiric creature. Shields don't recharge, so we have to 'suck' shields to live.
100% Black Eye.

SAY WHAT?
Hint: Be poised if other emotional scenes tend to errupt. The only Skulls with names relating to emotions are Envy and Angry, but Envy is connected to MAKEOVER. So Angry remains. However, 'poised' means to stay in balance/steady; when your allies are in battle, they stay calm and steady by making funny remarks... instead of getting all pissed off and screaming.
30% Angry. 70% I Would Have Been Your Daddy.

HUDLESS
Hint: Go commando! Clear your screen of pesky status indicators.
Self-explanatory. 100% Blind.

DISEMBODIED SOUL
Hint: Experience the miserable existence of the Disembodied Soul.
It's the Ghost Skull. If allies and enemies don't flinch, then their 'soul' or 'sense of touch' is disembodied.
100% Ghost.

MAKEOVER
Hint: Who says the Masterchief always has to wear green?
It's the Envy Skull, because MC gets a new 'look' with Active Camouflage -- which only the Envy Skull can give.
100% Envy.
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<Continued>

  • 07.09.2007 9:25 AM PDT
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Ill edit mypost with the old thread if someone can get it for me

  • 07.09.2007 9:25 AM PDT
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Well, just so you know, i did crack the virtual keyboard file. I don't know if you had a chance to read it though. All that it said was " Y0) Y0) Y0) Y0) Y0) Y0) " I don't really think that there is anything to it (and that is Y-zero-), not YO)

  • 07.09.2007 9:28 AM PDT
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Hey, start posting here there is more reserved space for later

  • 07.09.2007 9:36 AM PDT
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What were the last things said in the old thread? Could it have been deleted by the forum ninjas rather than a hacker as they say? Could we have come to close to something they didn't want us to find?

  • 07.09.2007 9:37 AM PDT
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Posted by: SonicJohn
I feel that there's not enough searching for the Skulls going down. It's been ages since we discovered the orginal "Blind" Skull. We really ought to figure out the whole Acronym theory. Bungie (I'm sure of it) have already confirmed that the letters "EGATFIBGBCSIMAW" in a certain order do, in fact, unlock something subtle. And as we're getting closer to Halo 3 I propose a challenge for all of you "hardcore" and "casual" Halo 2 gamers out there :D.

THE CHALLENGE

The challenge is to completely figure out the whole Skull deal. It's been too long. Be it manual searching - "Trial & Error" - or any alternative method. The only problem I have is Modding, although, reading some Hex-file reading would be very useful.

There are many useful resources located at the bottom of this post.
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A list of Confirmed Skulls:

Envy
Grunt Birthday Party
Assassins
Thunderstorm
Famine
I Would Have Been Your Daddy
Blind
Ghost
Black Eye
Catch
Sputnik
Iron
Mythic
Angry
W ???
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Ah, help has arrived:
Here is a video showing an interesting find. There has been rumor that finding all the skulls in a specific combination will unlock the gate. There are sixteen different combinations, but I won't take credit for them. All credit goes to the wonderful people in this group.
The music in that Video is called "Requiem For A Dream"

However, here is a video by DeadlyDean contradicting and explaining that the BSOD is in fact nothing more than a Placeholder. If you need to ask him about it, I'm sure he'd be happy to give you an automated response ;D...

See here for a list of Skull Combinations.
Credit goes to TheKillaIsBack, and Howru.
TheKillaIsBack has also made a tutorial video on how to get the IWHBYD skull, here
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Possible Gates

Link to Gate/Door Descriptions and Vids

Those are the directions for the Triangles.
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Guide for Infinate Camo:

Get the Envy Skull (Delta Halo).
Start another level you want the Camo on.
Activate the camo in such a way that you'll be invisinble when a checkpoint message appears on the screen.
Save and quit.
Turn off your Xbox.
Turn on your Xbox.
Resume the game and you should have perma camo for that level.

Skulls (Only) Held On Completetion of Level Vids
Armory - By DeadlyDean
Cairo Station - By DeadlyDean
Outskirts - By DeadlyDean
Metropolis - A - By DeadlyDean
Metropolis - B - By BIO Culke
The Arbiter - N/A (yet) - Seems to be slightly impossible on Single Player...Co-op seems easier
The Oracle - By DeadlyDean
Delta Halo - By DeadlyDean
Regret - By DeadlyDean
Sacred Icon - By DeadlyDean
Quarantine Zone - N/A (yet)
Gravemind - N/A (yet)
Uprising - By BIO Culke
High Charity - N/A (yet)
The Great Journey - N/A (yet)

The reason that a Skull isn't not shown as being held is because the cutscene shown is actually the cutscene for the following level, so the Skull is discarded. The above will all be completed and filmed. This is (partly for kicks) to show that the Skulls are implented in the Script one way or another. Enjoy.

Skull Dropping - Sword Glitch
This is a funny little glitch (discovered during the Outskirts Skull run) that shows that sometimes - when the Chief is without weapons - when he drops the Skull, he pretends to strike up a Sword. Enjoy.

WHAT WE HAVE FIGURED OUT/UNDERSTAND SO FAR! Be wary of Shift Key

* EGATFIBGBCSIMAW IS AN ACRONYM, NOT AN ANAGRAM. BUNGIE HAS THUS FAR ONLY EVER WORKED WITH ACRONYMS

* THERE IS NO GOLDEN WARTHOG AT ALL.

* THERE IS NO OPENABLE GATE ON COAGULATION, HEADLONG, TERMINAL OR ANY OTHER MULTIPLAYER MAP THAT RUMOURS HAVE BEEN NOTED ON.

* PLEASE DON'T NOTIFY US ABOUT THE ASSASSINS SKULL....YES IT APPEARS ON ALL DIFFICULTIES ON REGRET...NO NEED TO RE-POST ABOUT IT.

* THERE ARE NO MORE SKULLS...ALL HAVE BEEN FOUND (ACCORDING TO BUNGIE)

* WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR SKULLS, WE ARE LOOKING FOR A PRIZE AFTER COLLECTING ALL OF THE SKULLS IN A CERTAIN ORDER

* WE'RE ALSO NOT LOOKING FOR A SPECIFIC FINAL PRIZE, (EG A SKULL MENU), WE'RE LOOKING FOR ANY POSSIBLE CHANGE AFTER THE COLLECTIONS OF THE SKULLS.

* BUNGIE SAID THERE WASN'T ANYTHING ON THE SCALE OF A SKULL, THIS DOES NOT RULE OUT MORE EASTER EGGS. THERE MAY BE EGGS ON A GREATER/LESSER SCALE THAN THE SKULLS.

* ICE CREAM IS IRON...DON'T SAY DIFFERENTLY (SAYS SO IN THE HEX...AKA GAME CODING)

* NOTICE THAT BUNGIE HAVEN'T LOCKED (although Shishka has posted once) THIS THREAD YET...THIS MEANS THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING GOING ON HERE.

* THEY MENTION PLACEHOLDERS HERE SO THIS CAN MEAN THE SWITCHES ARE PLACEHOLDERS. BUNGIE ARE ALWAYS GIVING HINTS.

* THE POSTERS WITH 1 AND 7 IN THE IWHBYD ROOM ARE HINTING TO THE SKULL SPAWNING RANDOMLY 1 IN EVERY 7 IWHBYD RUNS.

* CO-OP SKULLS COLLECTING IS NOT A IDEA WORTH TRYING BECAUSE THE IWHBYD WILL NOT LOAD AND THE IRON THROWS YOU BOTH BACK YOUR MOST RECENT CHECKPOINT IF ONE OF YOU DIES.

* THERE WILL NOT BE ANY SKULL HINTS IN EITHER HALO 1 OR HALO 3.

* THE ARMORY SKULL CAN BE KNOWN AS: "WHUPPOPOTAMUS", "WOULD IT HELP IF I SAID PLEASE?", "COW BELL" OR THE MOST POPULAR ONE "UNNAMED". THERE IS JUST NO VISIBLE NAME WHEN YOU PICK IT UP.

* MOST OF THE PICTURES OF THE LEVELS SHOW THE AREA ROUGHLY NEAR WHERE THE SKULLS ARE LOCATED. THIS MAY BE IMPORTANT.

* WITH THE BLIND SKULL, IF YOU PRESS YOUR TORCH BUTTON, THE LIGHT WILL SPAWN WHERE YOU PICKED UP THE BLIND SKULL, IT WILL NOT EFFECT THE OTHER SKULLS. THE LIGHT JUST DECIDED TO GET LEFT BEHIND WITH THE SNIPER SCOPE.

* COLLECTING SKULLS ON THE 15 DIFFERENT PROFILES WILL STILL WORK IN THE SAME WAY AS IF YOU HAD GONE AND COLLECTED THEM ALL ON ONE PROFILE. THE SKULL EFFECT IS CARRIED OVER, UNTIL YOU TURN OFF YOUR XBOX.

* THE FLOATING GRUNT AND ELITES ON CAIRO HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SKULLS.

* THERE ARE FLOATING BOXES AND OBJECTS NEAR EDGES OF MAPS (SUCH AS "THE GREAT JOURNEY" AND "GRAVEMIND") BUT THESE DO NOTHING MORE THAN FALL DOWN TO THE GROUND ONCE TOUCHED.

* YOU CANNOT GET A BANSHEE ON DELTA HALO WITHOUT ACTION REPLAY.

* NOT ALL MODDERS ARE BAD, MOST JUST MAKE COOL MAPS AND STUFF.

* "THAT'S JUST...WRONG" WAS DISCOVERED AT THE END OF A SKULL-HEX-LINE, THIS MAY BE THE TRIGGER MESSAGE FOR THE PRIZE, OR THE ACTUAL PRIZE. WE DO NOT KNOW AS OF YET. IT IS CERTAINLY NO SKULL.

* NUMBERS ON THE BACK OF THE SKULLS I DOUBT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE ORDER.

* THERE ARE ITEMS AROUND THE SKULLS THAT HELP YOU DECIDE THE ORDER. THE ORDER IN THE HEX IS THE SUPPOSEDLY REAL COMBO (SEEN AS COMBO 9 IN THE COMBO THREAD)

* WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING THROUGH MAKING VIDS FOR ALL THE LEVELS BEING COMPLETED WITH ONLY SKULLS. BE PATIENT PLEASE.

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Any more help on this topic would be greatly appriciated.
Big thanks to peeps helping already.

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Links:

The Very First Skull-Thread

Tri-Gate on Delta Halo

A Group On Bungie.net dedicated to searching for Skulls -- Check it Out

High Impact Halo's (Locked) Skull Forum

High Impact Halo's List of where to find Skulls

Bungie.net's very own Easter Egg Thread

My little Skull Sumarry on my website.

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If anyone's interested in this challenge, please feel free to pick up your Xbox controller, flex those knuckles, switch on any Instant Messenger with friends and get searching.

Join my Bungie Group The Halo Raiders

My Clan Site - The Halo Raiders

Join The Site that has it all (even though it's still being developed) The Halo Raiders (this doesn't belong to me though :P)

Expected Deadline: Halo 3's Release Date

Thanks for any help.
SonicJohn


[Edited on 07.09.2007 9:50 AM PDT]

  • 07.09.2007 9:42 AM PDT
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Let sonic john make the NEW official thread, its rightfully his

  • 07.09.2007 9:45 AM PDT
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Well before it got deleted, after I had just posted a good job/thanks to stumpy's discovery about the coconuts, the thread name changed to "ENOUGH OF THIS -blam-!" and then it went away. Anyhow, work with the EGAT combo guys.

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I think I figured out what that Virtual Keyboard file was: This is what the yahoo scan gives when you begin downloading it from your email:


File name: virtual_keyboard.unic.meta
File size: 1kb
File type: application/octet-stream
Scan result: No virus threat detected.

This file is designated as an application/octet-stream. This type of file seems to be used in communications. This is what I found out about it on the internet:
"Formally, it is a channel (often bidirectional, but sometimes unidirectional) down which one entity can send a sequence of bytes to the entity on the other end. In almost all instances, the channel has the property that it is reliable; i.e. the exact same bytes emerge, in the exact same order, at the other end."
- ---http://www.answers.com/topic/byte-stream

*note that byte-stream and octet-stream are the same thing

Basically, this file either communicates file to file or from xbox to xbox. Either way, it holds no secrets :)

  • 07.09.2007 10:01 AM PDT
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I have one more file I really need you to check for me DER, can I e-mail it?

  • 07.09.2007 10:11 AM PDT
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Wait, woah.... you made TWO threads?

What the hell was the point of that?

  • 07.09.2007 11:24 AM PDT
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Don't know to post this in hte 'OFFICIAL' or this one but who cares.
The threads of TUE got (and will get again) so full and stuffed with idiots that it wasn't intresting anymore and people didn't notice the great findings anymore.
Therefor I'll just wait for some goodrunning Topic to follow, until then: I'll keep my idea's, discoveries and other stuff in a file.
-I'll see the true TUE-Hunters in a yet-to-come topic.
So no more Shadox before that, bye =)
Feel free to pm me anytime.

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I dont think bungie would put something in the game that they didn't want us to find but then again they aren't exactly normal either so who knows. Im gonna wait and see if i can find the original file anywhere before i go posting on this one. No offense meant to anyone. Oh and did anyone stop to think that maybe they deleted the old thread (if it was bungie who did it) because we where going into the hex which i don't beleive they intended us to do.

  • 07.10.2007 3:21 PM PDT

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