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Posted by: Wizenwolf bane
Actually i am English. And i have 24mb down and 2.5mb up. I can host rock solid 16 man servers, but for some reason Americans tend to get it over me a lot. And their internet is sucky and unstable to the game goes from good to bad depending on whats happening (firefights ect).

I sometimes find that if theres a lot happening and firefights are around i will drop to yellow bar. But on my host that never happens. I just think its really unfair that i have to suffer with lagg when i pay for a supreme connection.

Posted by: Wizenwolf bane
I also find it funny how Americans seem to be playing 24/7. I play in the morning deliberately to get more Europeans and theres still loads of them on.


Wow, sounds to me like you are jealous of Americans. saying they stink, telling them to get better internet connections. Wow, were online all the time. Isn't that funny. Well, Americans are on over 4 diffrent time zones so shouldn't we be online a lot? (not just one person, the whole American Xbox body in itself)

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  • 07.10.2007 5:29 AM PDT
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Posted by: Samic11156
LMFAO... OMG man, U have No idea how lucky you americans are. Im from New Zealand. Our connection speeds truely suck. Most games I am just beyond, if not, Yellow barring, and Quite often, I find myself red barring. I CANNOT host. And I have recently had another problem. I cannot join ANY parties, unlease they are open. Despite recieving Invs, It continuously says the party is closed, Despite it actually stating its on INV only, and players saying the same thing.


Your problem with not being able to join parties is probably beacause of your router. go to xbox.com and they have a tutorial on what ports to open. Im from Australia and it worked for me.

It's not that Americans have bad internet connections, it's just the great distance in which the information needs to travel. The futher it travels the more packet loss. This is why host shotgun is so effective.

  • 07.10.2007 5:32 AM PDT
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And as for your other suggestion of playing locally with people in or around the UK, im pretty sure the last time i checked that bungie does not match people up this way.

Hang on... I think I'm getting a CRAZY idea.... ;-)


In halo 3 bungiw will be incorpirating regional filters into matchmaking so you will get matched with people closer to you.

  • 07.10.2007 5:35 AM PDT
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Posted by: Fire power rule
Posted by: Wizenwolf bane
Actually i am English. And i have 24mb down and 2.5mb up. I can host rock solid 16 man servers, but for some reason Americans tend to get it over me a lot. And their internet is sucky and unstable to the game goes from good to bad depending on whats happening (firefights ect).

I sometimes find that if theres a lot happening and firefights are around i will drop to yellow bar. But on my host that never happens. I just think its really unfair that i have to suffer with lagg when i pay for a supreme connection.

Posted by: Wizenwolf bane
I also find it funny how Americans seem to be playing 24/7. I play in the morning deliberately to get more Europeans and theres still loads of them on.


Wow, sounds to me like you are jealous of Americans. saying they stink, telling them to get better internet connections. Wow, were online all the time. Isn't that funny. Well, Americans are on over 4 diffrent time zones so shouldn't we be online a lot? (not just one person, the whole American Xbox body in itself)


LOL........yeah right, us Uk and europeans players are jealous of you americans.................OVER a video game. Yeah this guy is really jealous of your american dial up connections............WHAT, do you have any idea what your saying little boy. If you read his post carefully, at no point does this guy state anything to which the green eyes monster should bare its head. He simply states his frustration that the servers don't give host to the best connection and that he plays early morning GMT ( london ) to try and stay away from americans horrible dial up connections for host.....................JEALOUSY !! wow, your all so arrogant............why ?

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Posted by: Fire power rule
Posted by: Wizenwolf bane
Actually i am English. And i have 24mb down and 2.5mb up. I can host rock solid 16 man servers, but for some reason Americans tend to get it over me a lot. And their internet is sucky and unstable to the game goes from good to bad depending on whats happening (firefights ect).

I sometimes find that if theres a lot happening and firefights are around i will drop to yellow bar. But on my host that never happens. I just think its really unfair that i have to suffer with lagg when i pay for a supreme connection.

Posted by: Wizenwolf bane
I also find it funny how Americans seem to be playing 24/7. I play in the morning deliberately to get more Europeans and theres still loads of them on.


Wow, sounds to me like you are jealous of Americans. saying they stink, telling them to get better internet connections. Wow, were online all the time. Isn't that funny. Well, Americans are on over 4 diffrent time zones so shouldn't we be online a lot? (not just one person, the whole American Xbox body in itself)


LOL........yeah right, us Uk and europeans players are jealous of you americans.................OVER a video game. Yeah this guy is really jealous of your american dial up connections............WHAT, do you have any idea what your saying little boy. If you read his post carefully, at no point does this guy state anything to which the green eyes monster should bare its head. He simply states his frustration that the servers don't give host to the best connection and that he plays early morning GMT ( london ) to try and stay away from americans horrible dial up connections for host.....................JEALOUSY !! wow, your all so arrogant............why ?


He is jealous that Americans have better connections then UK People and we get host more often.

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Why would i want to? I just wish i could block myself from matching any players from the US. They are all trash talking fools who prey on stereotypes and cant host simple servers. If the option was there i would have used it years ago... i am sick of hearing about how i should go eat some tea and have some crumpets with my queen.. because i lost at a laggy video game.

I also love how Americans always say "we invented this game so get the hell off it". The fact is that i pay more money to play xbox live than they do (they pay $50 whereas people in the UK pay nearer to $80). And i also paid more for my games. And i paid good money for internet.

Theres also the fact that without a lot of inventions from around the globe (including Britain), there would not even be an xbox or live.

Such a foolish statement to use considoring the xbox and bungie team is multinational.

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Posted by: Wizenwolf bane
Actually i am English. And i have 24mb down and 2.5mb up. I can host rock solid 16 man servers, but for some reason Americans tend to get it over me a lot. And their internet is sucky and unstable to the game goes from good to bad depending on whats happening (firefights ect).

I sometimes find that if theres a lot happening and firefights are around i will drop to yellow bar. But on my host that never happens. I just think its really unfair that i have to suffer with lagg when i pay for a supreme connection.

Posted by: Wizenwolf bane
I also find it funny how Americans seem to be playing 24/7. I play in the morning deliberately to get more Europeans and theres still loads of them on.


Wow, sounds to me like you are jealous of Americans. saying they stink, telling them to get better internet connections. Wow, were online all the time. Isn't that funny. Well, Americans are on over 4 diffrent time zones so shouldn't we be online a lot? (not just one person, the whole American Xbox body in itself)


LOL........yeah right, us Uk and europeans players are jealous of you americans.................OVER a video game. Yeah this guy is really jealous of your american dial up connections............WHAT, do you have any idea what your saying little boy. If you read his post carefully, at no point does this guy state anything to which the green eyes monster should bare its head. He simply states his frustration that the servers don't give host to the best connection and that he plays early morning GMT ( london ) to try and stay away from americans horrible dial up connections for host.....................JEALOUSY !! wow, your all so arrogant............why ?


He is jealous that Americans have better connections then UK People and we get host more often.


You really don't understand what your talking about do you ??

Tell me, what decides HOST ? is it random or connection speed ?

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It isn't that Americans have better connections, It's that there is more of them.

Guys if you want to increase your chances of getting host try getting boxes in matchmaking. it helps especially in double team and it also rules out standbying, briging and modding becuase they will be trying to get boxes too.

  • 07.10.2007 5:45 AM PDT
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if bungie do use regional filters into matchmaking and us uk and european players get to play the majority of our games amoungst ourselves, it would be a great step forward and we'd shed tears of joy.

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Posted by: Fire power rule
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Posted by: Fire power rule
Posted by: Wizenwolf bane
Actually i am English. And i have 24mb down and 2.5mb up. I can host rock solid 16 man servers, but for some reason Americans tend to get it over me a lot. And their internet is sucky and unstable to the game goes from good to bad depending on whats happening (firefights ect).

I sometimes find that if theres a lot happening and firefights are around i will drop to yellow bar. But on my host that never happens. I just think its really unfair that i have to suffer with lagg when i pay for a supreme connection.

Posted by: Wizenwolf bane
I also find it funny how Americans seem to be playing 24/7. I play in the morning deliberately to get more Europeans and theres still loads of them on.


Wow, sounds to me like you are jealous of Americans. saying they stink, telling them to get better internet connections. Wow, were online all the time. Isn't that funny. Well, Americans are on over 4 diffrent time zones so shouldn't we be online a lot? (not just one person, the whole American Xbox body in itself)


LOL........yeah right, us Uk and europeans players are jealous of you americans.................OVER a video game. Yeah this guy is really jealous of your american dial up connections............WHAT, do you have any idea what your saying little boy. If you read his post carefully, at no point does this guy state anything to which the green eyes monster should bare its head. He simply states his frustration that the servers don't give host to the best connection and that he plays early morning GMT ( london ) to try and stay away from americans horrible dial up connections for host.....................JEALOUSY !! wow, your all so arrogant............why ?


He is jealous that Americans have better connections then UK People and we get host more often.



Sorry what????

I think i have made it clear that i have a better connection speed than most Americans. Us "UK people" have the option to choose what internet speed we have just as much as you, if not more. As our country is smaller and exchanges are closer in general.

  • 07.10.2007 5:48 AM PDT

Posted by: YOUWIN
if bungie do use regional filters into matchmaking and us uk and european players get to play the majority of our games amoungst ourselves, it would be a great step forward and we'd shed tears of joy.

Hear hear.

  • 07.10.2007 5:49 AM PDT
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I apologize for rambling on about your connections, but its just so frustrating knowing that i pay good money for my internet, then i get matched with someone in matchmaking who has a terrible connection and gets host over me.

The day that i can sign in and just match against other Europeans/British folk i will be extremely pleased to fork over £40 a year for live.

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Posted by: YOUWIN
if bungie do use regional filters into matchmaking and us uk and european players get to play the majority of our games amoungst ourselves, it would be a great step forward and we'd shed tears of joy.


i couldn't of put it better myself.............only adding. No more trash talking, no more taking the games as though your life depended on it. A better sense of humour in games and a lot more fun.

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Posted by: blue4eva
Posted by: YOUWIN
if bungie do use regional filters into matchmaking and us uk and european players get to play the majority of our games amoungst ourselves, it would be a great step forward and we'd shed tears of joy.


i couldn't of put it better myself.............only adding. No more trash talking, no more taking the games as though your life depended on it. A better sense of humour in games and a lot more fun.


I must say i am guilty of taking games a bit seriously. But theres only so much "tea and crumpets" and "Train bombing" and "Princess Diana" insults i can take before i feel the need to voice my opinions over these forums.

And then the fact that it is so laggy most of the time is just rubbing salt in the wound.

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Posted by: YOUWIN
if bungie do use regional filters into matchmaking and us uk and european players get to play the majority of our games amoungst ourselves, it would be a great step forward and we'd shed tears of joy.


Until you realize your player poll has shrunk massively and start encountering long wait times due to tiny MM populations.

  • 07.10.2007 6:03 AM PDT
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if bungie do use regional filters into matchmaking and us uk and european players get to play the majority of our games amoungst ourselves, it would be a great step forward and we'd shed tears of joy.


Until you realize your player poll has shrunk massively and start encountering long wait times due to tiny MM populations.


thats probably the case with Halo2 - but with Halo3 on the way the numbers will increase, if bungie can get the matchmaking right and enable us lot (UK + Europe) to have enjoyable, lag free, stable games then less people are likely to give up on the online side of things in the future.

  • 07.10.2007 6:12 AM PDT

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Posted by: YOUWIN
if bungie do use regional filters into matchmaking and us uk and european players get to play the majority of our games amoungst ourselves, it would be a great step forward and we'd shed tears of joy.


Until you realize your player poll has shrunk massively and start encountering long wait times due to tiny MM populations.

So long as it is an option, I'd take that hit any day of the week. And I wouldn't mind one bit playing in less closely-matched games if I got lower-latency games as a result.

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Why must you assume all Americans have a bad connection??? Becaue assumeing makes an (don't want to swear) jerk/u/me. Not all Americans trash talk. PEOPLE FROM EVERY COUNTRY TRASH TALK!!! AND PEOPLE IN THE UK HAVE BAD CONNECTIONS FOR US IN AMERICA, ITS NOt JUST YOU!!!

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  • 07.10.2007 6:18 AM PDT

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when players from distant areas play together, like UK and US, who ever has host will have good connection. What I am sayign is that if a UK player has host, then any UK player in that game will have perfect connection while the US players will be laggy. The same things goes for the US players, if a US player has host, all US players in that game will have good connection and the UK players will lag. This happens to me and my British friends a lot. When I have host, my British friend lags and vice versa. Same goes for the NZ players.

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  • 07.10.2007 6:26 AM PDT

There's nothing better than a well-chucked norris... I mean nade.

Please don't think everyone in the US is a trash talking dumbass. I'm as fed up with them as you are and besides, I've come across quite a few trash talkers with British accents.

  • 07.10.2007 6:26 AM PDT

Posted by: XxCubanLegendxX
when players from distant areas play together, like UK and US, who ever has host will have ghood connection. What I am sayign is that if a UK player has host, then any UK player in that game will have perfect connection while the US players will be laggy. The same things goes for the US players, if a US player has host, all US players in that game will have good connection and the UK players will lag. This happens to me and my British friends a lot. When I have host, my British friend lags and vice versa. Same goes for the NZ players.

Give the man a cigar

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Way to generalize idoit.

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Hey Englishman, your connections are no better than ours. The fact is you are on an island 3500 miles away from your host and therefore have latency, not lag. You have to know by now that some hosts are bad in this game; that is an unfortunate side effect of an otherwise pretty smooth game host system. Instead of asking us to upgrade, why don't you come to America and enjoy real gaming.

  • 07.10.2007 6:43 AM PDT

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Instead of asking us to upgrade, why don't you come to America and enjoy real gaming.

If it were me, I'd just ask you to upgrade. I think emigration is a tad overkill to solve a simple video game problem.

I'm being glib though. What we really need is an option to filter matchmaking by region when we're sick of high-latency games.

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HOLY SHIZZLE! This is like trying to communicate with a bunch of children! I KNOW WHAT LATENCY IS! OK! I KNOW THAT ITS DISTANCE THAT USUALLY CAUSES LAGG! OK!

What i am saying is that in most American servers it starts out good, and playable. But because their upload speeds are not good enough to host the game, the game starts to lagg terribly when firefights occur. Heres a simple example for you special people.

Game starts .... Green bar (this is ok, just what i expect with latency and all).
2 mins in and i am in a firefight....... lower green/yellow bar (this is getting rediculous)
8 mins in and the game is in full swing and whenever i get shot the connections all drop to bottom green/yellow bar (WTFFFFF)
end of game and the connections all fly back up to green bar (like in the beginning).

This is the average game in an American server.

In MY SERVERS

Game starts (green bar)

Firefights (green bar)

Game full swing (green bar)

GAME ENDS ON FREAKIN' GREEN BAR JUST LIKE IT STARTED.


You see the difference boys and girls? My upload can constantly deliver the bandwidth requirements for a stable match for everyone. American host cannot deliver the full requirements therefore the pings all go way up and everyones "green bar" disappears.

Thats the difference. If American host kept me (and others in the party) on green bar the whole game i would not be so angry. But the fact is me and my party of English people all go down to yellow bar whenever something important happens in the game. And its the host, not us.

  • 07.10.2007 7:06 AM PDT

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