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Duno who else noticed, from 0:43-0:45 it looks like the cliff from the original announcement trailer. And this time instead of the chief looking up and seeing the banshees flying by he sees UNSC jets fly by. And in this version of it the Arbiter is there as well.

Also right at 1:12 when the chief -blam!- slaps the guy with his gun and his helmet pops off (The bad guys) he doesnt look like a brute... If you pause it right after the helmet pops off he has the face of a big grunt. In the screen shot gallery here look at the screen shot titled "Before The Charge", It has the feet and face of a grunt, and no hair, thus I think this is a super-sized grunt not a brute.. just my 2 cents.

*edit* again at 1:18 if you have a quick eye as you're seeing the chief lay a smackdown on something you get some shots of it's face, it's not a brute.

[Edited on 07.11.2007 3:23 PM PDT]

  • 07.11.2007 3:20 PM PDT
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Awesome Bungie. Absolutely awesome.


About the "Arms Race" film though:

I thought this short film was cheese. It looked like it was intentionally filmed using your average DV camera (which can sometimes be done right, but in this case it didn't help at all in making the short more serious). All of the Halo 3 media, like the ads and announcement trailers, etc, have been of such high calibre in terms of visual quality, and it makes this short pale in comparison. With respect to Weta workshop, the armour looked home-made cardboard -blam!-. I also couldn't help but cringe at that cliche ending shot. Overall the short felt like a bad TV sci-fi show - I couldn't tell, were we supposed to laugh or take this seriously? The overused concept of having the computer processing was eye-rolling, and the the font was as low quality as you can get (was it like Arial or something?) I'm assuming this was intended to be a realistic impression of an assembly line thing, so the viewer can get pumped up and get an insight into what its like to manufacture ODSTs, but for me it just didn't work. If it was meant to be serious, cinematically it should have been something more like the StarCraft 2 trailer.

Maybe I'm being a little harsh, but really it's just my review of the to-be-director of the Halo 'movie'. If you can't nail the flavour in 2minutes, it questions your ability to nail a feature length film. Basically I'm saying if this is any indication of what the movie might be, I'm really not liking the direction its headed.

(*Honestly I'm just concerned about this director for the Halo movie. I WANT it to be outstanding! Unlike the other game-based movies we've seen in the past.)

[Edited on 07.11.2007 3:41 PM PDT]

  • 07.11.2007 3:31 PM PDT

Posted by: ElephantDropBomb
Awesome Bungie. Absolutely awesome.


About the "Arms Race" film though:

I thought this short film was cheese. It looked like it was intentionally filmed using your average DV camera (which can sometimes be done right, but in this case it didn't help at all in making the short more serious). All of the Halo 3 media, like the ads and announcement trailers, etc, have been of such high calibre in terms of visual quality, and it makes this short pale in comparison. With respect to Weta workshop, the armour looked home-made cardboard -blam!-. I also couldn't help but cringe at that cliche ending shot. Overall the short felt like a bad TV sci-fi show - I couldn't tell, were we supposed to laugh or take this seriously? The overused concept of having the computer processing was eye-rolling, and the the font was as low quality as you can get (was it like Arial or something?) I'm assuming this was intended to be a realistic impression of an assembly line thing, so the viewer can get pumped up and get an insight into what its like to manufacture ODSTs, but for me it just didn't work. If it was meant to be serious, cinematically it should have been something more like the StarCraft 2 trailer.

Maybe I'm being a little harsh, but really it's just my review of the to-be-director of the Halo 'movie'. If you can't nail the flavour in 2minutes, it questions your ability to nail a feature length film. Basically I'm saying if this is any indication of what the movie might be, I'm really not liking the direction its headed.

(*Honestly I'm just concerned about this director for the Halo movie. I WANT it to be outstanding! Unlike the other game-based movies we've seen in the past.)


I'm with you brother. It looks like that Neil guy's other stuff. I don't think it works right for Halo at all.

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Wasn't sure whether to do a post edit or a new one, but finally made up my mind:

In response to some comments on negative responses - yes, there is negative feedback, but you can spot bias in that e.g. in the [major news website/broadcaster] report - if you have seen their report (now I'll do the critique) you'll notice how they devote just one sentence with not much in it to Halo 3, but a whole lot more to the others. Annoying - if you don't approve of something and make it public, at least say why.

It would be helpful to have a sort of customizable campaign level - so it becomes effectively infinite (sort of).

Edit: I've just noted that the Halo 3 trailer stuff on top of a "what you liked best" poll on E3 Day one - just over "all the games" by about 0.5%. This actually went up from the time I last looked by about 2-3-4%.

[Edited on 07.11.2007 3:58 PM PDT]

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Awsome Bungie, please dont delay thihs games.

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Posted by: a dying puppy
the very begining (kinda) where the brute kill the marine
he is holdong a brute sniper

i have seen concept art and that is kinda what it look like just go bak and look at it


it even looks like a sniper(BRUTE type)


Thats the brute hammer that all of the brute captains have, i think they showed it off and explained it on the Et tu Brute viddoc

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On the Arms Race short:

No, no, no... whoever it is did not come up with the actual ideas for Halo. That person/group of people (bungie/Frankie) should be in charge - otherwise the change of perspective becomes painful given what I have seen.

Put it this way - if you were given all the material/know-how you needed to make a movie, and you had to carry on a particular series, would you be able to do it the same way as the actual author of a series (I'm trying to make this as clear as possible)? Its not always a problem, but here, I think it is.

  • 07.11.2007 3:55 PM PDT

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On the Arms Race short:

No, no, no... whoever it is did not come up with the actual ideas for Halo. That person/group of people (bungie/Frankie) should be in charge - otherwise the change of perspective becomes painful given what I have seen.

Put it this way - if you were given all the material/know-how you needed to make a movie, and you had to carry on a particular series, would you be able to do it the same way as the actual author of a series (I'm trying to make this as clear as possible)? Its not always a problem, but here, I think it is.


If Bungie goes in this direction with the Halo movie it will be a big flop! REALLY! And then Millions of Halo fans with be so upset. And there will be NO more Halo fans. I want my non-Halo playing friends to LOVE the Halo story the way we do.
A movie like this will BURY Halo forever.

  • 07.11.2007 4:02 PM PDT

What was that gold colored weapon on the chief's back when he threw the brute off the chopper? it's at 1:13 into the trailer...

Awesome $#!+ !!!!

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Posted by: AnonymousPerson
On the Arms Race short:

No, no, no... whoever it is did not come up with the actual ideas for Halo. That person/group of people (bungie/Frankie) should be in charge - otherwise the change of perspective becomes painful given what I have seen.

Put it this way - if you were given all the material/know-how you needed to make a movie, and you had to carry on a particular series, would you be able to do it the same way as the actual author of a series (I'm trying to make this as clear as possible)? Its not always a problem, but here, I think it is.


If Bungie goes in this direction with the Halo movie it will be a big flop! REALLY! And then Millions of Halo fans with be so upset. And there will be NO more Halo fans. I want my non-Halo playing friends to LOVE the Halo story the way we do.
A movie like this will BURY Halo forever.



I think you are going a little over the top. I think Mr. Blomkamp will do a great job with Halo. Remember, this is just a short concept video, not a movie with hundreds of CG people adding their magic. As long as they don't get George Lucas to direct and write the movie we should all be fine.

Daggart

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G4 cut out of the halo 3 video into commercial so I am glad that they put it on here before it was even on tv.

  • 07.11.2007 4:09 PM PDT

As everyone else probally said;

I think I need to change my pants now.

  • 07.11.2007 4:09 PM PDT

Posted by: Daggart
Posted by: Dano328391
Posted by: AnonymousPerson
On the Arms Race short:

No, no, no... whoever it is did not come up with the actual ideas for Halo. That person/group of people (bungie/Frankie) should be in charge - otherwise the change of perspective becomes painful given what I have seen.

Put it this way - if you were given all the material/know-how you needed to make a movie, and you had to carry on a particular series, would you be able to do it the same way as the actual author of a series (I'm trying to make this as clear as possible)? Its not always a problem, but here, I think it is.


If Bungie goes in this direction with the Halo movie it will be a big flop! REALLY! And then Millions of Halo fans with be so upset. And there will be NO more Halo fans. I want my non-Halo playing friends to LOVE the Halo story the way we do.
A movie like this will BURY Halo forever.



I think you are going a little over the top. I think Mr. Blomkamp will do a great job with Halo. Remember, this is just a short concept video, not a movie with hundreds of CG people adding their magic. As long as they don't get George Lucas to direct and write the movie we should all be fine.

Daggart


Maybe I'm going a litle over the top. But have you seen this guy's other stuff? It ALL looks like Home movie stuff. Just like this.
Yes, it's cool in the way that the CG blends with the live action. But like his other stuff, it's cold and unemotional.
Hopefully you are right, but I'm still not sure this is the right director. I LOVE the Halo story and don't want it to go to waste in a bad movie.

And YES! Keep George Lucas AWAY! LOL

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The water..I thought Frankie was just being weird. But it really does look amazing!! (as does the rest of the trailer)

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Oh my god..... I love the part where the Master Chief puts a pistol to the Arbiters throat, I wonder what he said to him. This is to amazing and beautiful and glorious and wonderful and everything to express. No words can express it.

  • 07.11.2007 4:27 PM PDT

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The water..I thought Frankie was just being weird. But it really does look amazing!! (as does the rest of the trailer)


YES! The water looks great...as does the rest of the trailer. :)
Bungie talked about "Sandbox" levels...this will be AWESOME! Sandbox mean go anywhere, do anything. Like Crackdown!
I can picture it...You go thru levels like on Halo and Halo 2...and then you come to a Big Open area where you can go anywhere, and there are lots of Brutes to fight! These levels will never get old! Do it different every time! :)
Halo CE have a few levels sort of like this...but Halo 3 has the power to go nuts with it! :)

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Posted by: SilentRage7
What was that gold colored weapon on the chief's back when he threw the brute off the chopper? it's at 1:13 into the trailer...

Awesome $#!+ !!!!


To me it looks like the fuel rod gun, I saw the green rod in it, but it may be something else, or a newer version of the fuel rod gun.

  • 07.11.2007 4:37 PM PDT

At the end of Halo 2, Johnson, Cortana, The Arbiter, and Keys are all back on Delta Halo....only MC is at Earth.
So I wonder what transpires to get them all back home?

Oops, Cortana is on High Charity with the Flood. Do the other save her from Gravemind?

OH! I can't wait to find out what happeneds!

  • 07.11.2007 4:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: AnonymousPerson
On the Arms Race short:

No, no, no... whoever it is did not come up with the actual ideas for Halo. That person/group of people (bungie/Frankie) should be in charge - otherwise the change of perspective becomes painful given what I have seen.

Put it this way - if you were given all the material/know-how you needed to make a movie, and you had to carry on a particular series, would you be able to do it the same way as the actual author of a series (I'm trying to make this as clear as possible)? Its not always a problem, but here, I think it is.


If Bungie goes in this direction with the Halo movie it will be a big flop! REALLY! And then Millions of Halo fans with be so upset. And there will be NO more Halo fans. I want my non-Halo playing friends to LOVE the Halo story the way we do.
A movie like this will BURY Halo forever.



I think you are going a little over the top. I think Mr. Blomkamp will do a great job with Halo. Remember, this is just a short concept video, not a movie with hundreds of CG people adding their magic. As long as they don't get George Lucas to direct and write the movie we should all be fine.

Daggart


Hmm...Well, there is NOT a whole lot of "Buzz" going on about that little Arms Race vid is there?
And There is a REASON for that.
Hardly ANYBODY on this forum has even talked about it. The rest of the net is the same....kinda like ho hum.
Halo should NOT be Ho-Hum. :(

Maybe Jason Jones or Joseph Staten should, at least, Co-Direct the movie....to keep it "HALO" and not some crappy "Art" movie.

Maybe there was a good reason that Fox and Universal pulled out.



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that was a really cool trailer and all but it still doesnt look as good as the announcement. i'm just saying. halo 3 is still gunna kick ass

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the E3 video showing campaign gameplay i noticed several things 1. it has coop like gears of war where you both dont play the same person 2. cortana dies well that wasnt very suprising if you read the books 3. there is a hidden message right when the word Bungie flashs at the end cant read it but its there 4. the prophet of truth is not talking in the trailer its someone else 5. new warthog types 6. redone ful rod cannon (looks more stylized) 7. most of the game is on earth (no -blam!- sherlock) 8. pelicans, longswords, phantoms, and seraph fighters are all destructible 9. arbiter becomes badassish 10. new scarab thingy 11. gorilla warfare 12. zero-g mission maybe 13. pelicans, longswords, phantoms, and seraph fighters flyable maybe 14. miranda keyes is in trouble again 14/2=7 yeah for me

Bungie please tell us what the hidden message is

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Posted by: Dano328391
Posted by: Daggart
Posted by: Dano328391
Posted by: AnonymousPerson
On the Arms Race short:

No, no, no... whoever it is did not come up with the actual ideas for Halo. That person/group of people (bungie/Frankie) should be in charge - otherwise the change of perspective becomes painful given what I have seen.

Put it this way - if you were given all the material/know-how you needed to make a movie, and you had to carry on a particular series, would you be able to do it the same way as the actual author of a series (I'm trying to make this as clear as possible)? Its not always a problem, but here, I think it is.


If Bungie goes in this direction with the Halo movie it will be a big flop! REALLY! And then Millions of Halo fans with be so upset. And there will be NO more Halo fans. I want my non-Halo playing friends to LOVE the Halo story the way we do.
A movie like this will BURY Halo forever.



I think you are going a little over the top. I think Mr. Blomkamp will do a great job with Halo. Remember, this is just a short concept video, not a movie with hundreds of CG people adding their magic. As long as they don't get George Lucas to direct and write the movie we should all be fine.

Daggart


Hmm...Well, there is NOT a whole lot of "Buzz" going on about that little Arms Race vid is there?
And There is a REASON for that.
Hardly ANYBODY on this forum has even talked about it. The rest of the net is the same....kinda like ho hum.
Halo should NOT be Ho-Hum. :(

Maybe Jason Jones or Joseph Staten should, at least, Co-Direct the movie....to keep it "HALO" and not some crappy "Art" movie.

Maybe there was a good reason that Fox and Universal pulled out.



I just wanted alot of quotes inside quotes. =)
I watched it live on G4tv.com, with no commercials. Many noticeable changes already pointed out, and it sucked me in to the point where I banged my computer when it went to other games.

[Edited on 07.11.2007 5:25 PM PDT]

  • 07.11.2007 5:24 PM PDT

Posted by: Hellscream666
the E3 video showing campaign gameplay i noticed several things 1. it has coop like gears of war where you both dont play the same person 2. cortana dies well that wasnt very suprising if you read the books 3. there is a hidden message right when the word Bungie flashs at the end cant read it but its there 4. the prophet of truth is not talking in the trailer its someone else 5. new warthog types 6. redone ful rod cannon (looks more stylized) 7. most of the game is on earth (no -blam!- sherlock) 8. pelicans, longswords, phantoms, and seraph fighters are all destructible 9. arbiter becomes badassish 10. new scarab thingy 11. gorilla warfare 12. zero-g mission maybe 13. pelicans, longswords, phantoms, and seraph fighters flyable maybe 14. miranda keyes is in trouble again 14/2=7 yeah for me

Bungie please tell us what the hidden message is


I don't think Cortana dies in that shot. That would be giving away too much of the story. I think she just falls down or passes out from some kind of stress.

  • 07.11.2007 5:26 PM PDT