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I got this Idea from a different forum

its to stop "certain" people from posting threads

Ok in this forum there's a smartness meter for your account on the forum. Everytime you make a post with no spelling errors you increase your meter if there's a spelling eror you lose some. you can't make any threads though till your meter is at a certain level. In my opinion it's a great idea it'll help the community and keep it free of not needed threads and "certain" users

  • 07.13.2007 8:45 AM PDT

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I've never found the ability to spell to be linked with intelligence. Ever.

Besides, you just made a spelling 'erors'. You wouldn't be able to post a new thread now?

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Posted by: SS_Zag1
I've never found the ability to spell to be linked with intelligence. Ever.

Besides, you just made a spelling 'erors'. You wouldn't be able to post a new thread now?


I like the present system. As long as someone doesn't break the rules, they can post however they wish.

  • 07.13.2007 9:11 AM PDT

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Posted by: SS_Zag1
I've never found the ability to spell to be linked with intelligence. Ever.

Besides, you just made a spelling 'erors'. You wouldn't be able to post a new thread now?
If your thread is trying to get peoples attention and pursuade others to engage in discussion, the original post should be put through a spell checker.

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Posted by: Xx Krunchy
I got this Idea from a different forum

its to stop "certain" people from posting threads

Ok in this forum there's a smartness meter for your account on the forum. Everytime you make a post with no spelling errors you increase your meter if there's a spelling eror you lose some. you can't make any threads though till your meter is at a certain level


uhh..., obviously your smartness level would be zero because if you have to make post without spelling errors to increase your meter, and you can't make a post until you reach a certain level, how in the hell are you gonna get your smartness level up?!?!?

  • 07.13.2007 10:55 AM PDT

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Posted by: Xx Krunchy
I got this Idea from a different forum

its to stop "certain" people from posting threads

Ok in this forum there's a smartness meter for your account on the forum. Everytime you make a post with no spelling errors you increase your meter if there's a spelling eror you lose some. you can't make any threads though till your meter is at a certain level


uhh..., obviously your smartness level would be zero because if you have to make post without spelling errors to increase your meter, and you can't make a post until you reach a certain level, how in the hell are you gonna get your smartness level up?!?!?

uh obviously the post says that he can post but he cant make a new thread until his spelling meter was at a certain level.

Note: I know this because I almost posted the same thing before re-reading his post.

  • 07.13.2007 11:02 AM PDT
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What do you do with intentional spelling mistakes? Non-words? Foreign words? People who speak foreign languages and therefore make natural mistakes?

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Trying something once will increace your chances of success, because you tried it. Try someting twice, and your chances increase yet again - seeing as you've done it. Try something a few thousand times, and your chances of success is exponentially increased; this increase would likely provide success every time

I am fully and completely against this idea. This idea will influence elitism, this idea will censor others opinion, and lastly, this idea will not help.

It will influence elitism by allowing some to make posts, while others cannot. Thus allowing the ones able to create threads to feel better and 'have more power' then those that cannot. This is what this community has been striving not to get. That is why the community believes post counters should not be implemented again, as well as taking out the join date on the main forums. These ideas shown are pointless and influence elitism. Yours however does have a point behind it, but it is interpreted wrong. Because, as you will later read, spelling does not equal intelligence.

It will censor opinions by not allowing some with opinions to post them in a thread. How would you feel if you made countless spelling mistakes within your posts, and you couldn't voice your opinion? You would feel like you have to change in order to post. This is not the point of a forum. The point of a forum is to discuss matters that you enjoy to discuss. Whether it be a movie, music, the community, women, cars, and everything in between. Censoring others opinion would kill the very point of a forum.

And lastly, this idea will not help in any way shape or form, since spelling does not equal 'smartness'. Everyone makes mistakes, you shouldn't be punished because of it. Especially on the internet.

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  • 07.13.2007 11:16 AM PDT

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Seeing as how a video game forum would be rife with words that are not in the traditional lexicon, an automatic spell-check probably wouldn't work too well.

Also, while spelling and grammar are awesome, I don't think people should be punished or belittled if they don't use them properly. Only when they're making fun of others for the same reason.

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Pretty good ideas here.

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Me dun not lik tis ideas

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An idea you should try


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  • 07.13.2007 11:46 AM PDT
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Posted by: Mabian
What do you do with intentional spelling mistakes? Non-words? Foreign words? People who speak foreign languages and therefore make natural mistakes?


The exact point I would have brought up. Alas, however, Mabian beat me to teh thread.

See what I did there? I made an intentional spelling mistake!

  • 07.13.2007 12:03 PM PDT

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That would probably cause a lot of alternate accounts so they could post threads again.

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Possibility of elitism you say!

Kill the idea! Kill it with FIRE!

Or, we could discuss the idea and see if there was some way it could be modified or improved so it would fit in with this forum. A mechanism for combating poor spelling is a good idea... Perhaps denying people the ability to create threads may be too harsh but there is a limit. If 50% of the words in someone's posts are consistently not spelled correctly, then I don't think anyone would mind if they didn't make threads - as for foreign languages, this is an English board (as detailed in the rules).

A sliding scale, perhaps? If you can't post with above 50% correct words you can't make threads, above 90% for a week or so earns you a blacklisting... 30% of post bodies being in caps gets you a warning after a week etc. etc...

Foreign people attempting to write in English tend not to spell things incorrectly; their problem is with grammar, which is impossible to police without human intervention!

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That would probably cause a lot of alternate accounts so they could post threads again.
No, because maybe you'd have to have posted at least three times (with >50% correct words) to earn the thread-creating privilege (in addition to the 24-hour waiting period that already exists).

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I talk to people who are hard to understand and/or have troubles spelling/typing all the time, and I don't want to have that freedom taken away from me. I make tons of typos/communication errors myself. I would be a lot stupider if I couldn't interact with people who weren't perfect communicators...

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Or, Saint, perhaps the post has to pass a percentage mark for grammar and spelling.

Say, if thirty percent of words are misspelled, the post if rejected?

  • 07.13.2007 1:10 PM PDT

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I do not like this idea. I make spelling mistakes all the time (Example: Spelling their as thier). While I do read through my post before submitting it, there are times I do not catch all the mistakes. I do not want to be punished for that, no matter how little.

There are also the times when I just cannot remember how a word is spelled for the life of me. Now why should I have to look it up in a dictionary just to make sure that I can continue to post in the forums.

Instead of having penalties for bad spelling, just give us an optional spell checker, so that those who are trying to write a good post can be aided by it, and those who are using gaming jargon can easily post it without worrying about having it being falsely corrected.



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First posts only, right? Possibly, but sometimes there may be valid reasons for mis-spellings; hence a continuous style system versus an every-instance one.

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Pain Relief, you'd be fine. Those spellings would maybe give you a 5-10% inaccuracy rating, well below any reasonable average. And I wouldn't suggest a system that tracks the average correctness of your posts, but rather one that tracks the percentage of posts that fall in certain ranges... So you'd need quite a few above 50% incorrect to lose topic-creating ability!

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Trying something once will increace your chances of success, because you tried it. Try someting twice, and your chances increase yet again - seeing as you've done it. Try something a few thousand times, and your chances of success is exponentially increased; this increase would likely provide success every time

I must disagree with you both, Rainman and Saint. In both cases this is still censoring others thoughts. Yes, they may post it in another thread, but if the thread is about 'How do you link your gamertag?' and someone comes in and asks what kind of motherboard they should buy, well, I can imagine that the situation wouldn't be too pretty. I am against this idea, it would be censoring others thoughts and would, in some cases, influence elitism. Not being able to post is one thing, and I can understand where you are coming from Rainman; but a banning for spelling alone!? That is just beyond crazy Saint. That would be a slap to the face for some people like a 'we don't want you here, you smell.'. People make mistakes all the time, besides it's not the looks of the post, it's the message the post conveys.

Late edit: I am with Pain Relief on this one.

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No. Sometimes, it's for the look of the post.

And if you'll notice, I said to earn a banning you'd need an average of 90%+ incorrectness over a week - who would really surpass that other than spammers? And 90% is a lot... I doubt you'd read a topic with 90%+ mis-spelling, and many would consider it spam no matter the (obfuscated) content.

Proper English is important - it's right there in the Rules. Use proper spelling and grammar as far as possible, or face the wrath of Ninjas. A nice automatic system delegates that responsibility to the Soul!

  • 07.13.2007 1:27 PM PDT

As much as I hate when people use "u", "ur", "ne" and things of that nature, I'm going to have to disagree. Due to the fact that this is the internet, and most people usually type like that from instant messaging systems to make it quicker (it really doesn't btw unless you type about 1 word per minute). As long as it's written in a legible fashion, I can't yell at them for anything. Of course there's a few posters that have absolutely HORRID spelling which half the time I can't understand, but they should just learn to use a spell checker. Just because people can't spell correctly doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to share their ideas with the community. Therefore, I'm going to have to disagree with the idea of limiting people's ability to make threads based on spelling.

  • 07.13.2007 1:44 PM PDT

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Possibility of elitism you say!

Kill the idea! Kill it with FIRE!

Or, we could discuss the idea and see if there was some way it could be modified or improved so it would fit in with this forum. A mechanism for combating poor spelling is a good idea... Perhaps denying people the ability to create threads may be too harsh but there is a limit. If 50% of the words in someone's posts are consistently not spelled correctly, then I don't think anyone would mind if they didn't make threads - as for foreign languages, this is an English board (as detailed in the rules).

A sliding scale, perhaps? If you can't post with above 50% correct words you can't make threads, above 90% for a week or so earns you a blacklisting... 30% of post bodies being in caps gets you a warning after a week etc. etc...


So you want to implement some highly techincal and complicated system to monitor all 10,000 posts per week for spelling and capitalization errors? How bout just give us the damn spellcheck people have been asking for since the dawn of B.net?

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Posted by: Saint
No. Sometimes, it's for the look of the post.

And if you'll notice, I said to earn a banning you'd need an average of 90%+ incorrectness over a week - who would really surpass that other than spammers? And 90% is a lot... I doubt you'd read a topic with 90%+ mis-spelling, and many would consider it spam no matter the (obfuscated) content.

Proper English is important - it's right there in the Rules. Use proper spelling and grammar as far as possible, or face the wrath of Ninjas. A nice automatic system delegates that responsibility to the Soul!

You would be surprised how many people would mis-spell over 90% of their posts in one week. Myself for example. If you ask anyone that used to know me, Hobo GRrunt, JAVA2, Recon, GJJ, and lilshorty, just to name a few, you would find out that I was the worst speller in the world back in '05. Yes, I have changed, but my spelling was horrid none the less. Yes, proper English is a good thing, but important, I say no. Spelling is good, but important, I say no. Everything, from spelling to speaking, nothing in any language is important. It is just the message that must be kept across. Name at least five posts that take the meaning from the look. Yes, I know there are a few out there, but the look is rarely as important as the message.

If anything it is the paragraphs of a post that count, not the spelling. The one thing, no matter how hard I try, I cannot get how spelling could ever equal intelligence. That is the basis of this idea, in no way, shape, or form can spelling ever equal intelligence.

As for having proper English being in the rules, I ask you; where is this? I have never seen this before, not in my two year here have I ever seen this. It is suggested you spell correctly and use correct grammar, but no where does it say that one must use the full extent of their knowledge on this forum.

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