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  • 07.18.2007 9:00 AM PDT
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yes they do use button glitches but they dont superjump. i went to charlotte and got a mlg rule book.

  • 07.18.2007 9:02 AM PDT

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Kevin's post = breath of fresh air.
Take it from this guy people, he knows what he's talking about.

Second accounts are NOT cheating:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=13824

Posted by: XLG HANDOFGOD
kevinbrock is trash look at his stats on bungie and you will see. and as for me being supposedly bad, look at my stats for HollowTipKilla and you will see that every game i get host i average 35 kills. the most this week was 87 kills in btb using sniper and br. KevinBrock was probably one of the bad kids i poned


Only bad kids talk about being better because their stats are better. Ive had this account since the game came out, plus I teach lessons and most of the time im not really trying. Good for you and your "35+ kills every game". Im going to give you a freaking cookie. I suppose now you want to challenge me to a 1 vs 1 to prove your "leetness". Thats always step 2 in proving not only how bad some kid is but also how insecure he is about himself. Sprout some pubies kid.....

  • 07.18.2007 9:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: KEVINBROCK
Accepted.


Its just that im trying to help people wether they want it or not. If people are going to talk about a certian subject they need to be informed about it. I cant sit idly by while people talk about MLG and its obvious they have no idea what they are talking about. When other people read those posts their opinions are swayed towards misinformation because they didnt have all the available facts. I may sound cocky but im not. I do, however, know what im talking about when it comes to MLG, it is my 'forte if you will. Sometimes I feel its necessarry to shed some light on a subject.



lol, Zach and Kevin, crusaders against halo ignorance!

Button combos are considered cheating by bungie so you can send cheating feedback to the "noobs" who did it.

Button combos take skill and add depth to the game, you must work on the timing for them to work, and pulling that off in the clutch of battle isn't usually easy to do.

People who get beat by the noob combo are not playing the situation right. You wouldn't rush a sniper across the open with an SMG would you? Well why would you pop into the open against a combo user. All you need to do is dodge behind some cover and then you're free to kill the combo user. It's not difficult, and using the combo against good players is not easy. They will dodge the combo, so to use it you must either double team them in an effort to help your team mate, catch them in the open, or get a surprise attack. When the enemy has the combo, do not rush them in the open, or anywhere without immediate coverage.

  • 07.18.2007 9:26 AM PDT

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Kevin's post = breath of fresh air.
Take it from this guy people, he knows what he's talking about.

Second accounts are NOT cheating:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=13824

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Posted by: KEVINBROCK
Accepted.


Its just that im trying to help people wether they want it or not. If people are going to talk about a certian subject they need to be informed about it. I cant sit idly by while people talk about MLG and its obvious they have no idea what they are talking about. When other people read those posts their opinions are swayed towards misinformation because they didnt have all the available facts. I may sound cocky but im not. I do, however, know what im talking about when it comes to MLG, it is my 'forte if you will. Sometimes I feel its necessarry to shed some light on a subject.



lol, Zach and Kevin, crusaders against halo ignorance!

Button combos are considered cheating by bungie so you can send cheating feedback to the "noobs" who did it.

Button combos take skill and add depth to the game, you must work on the timing for them to work, and pulling that off in the clutch of battle isn't usually easy to do.

People who get beat by the noob combo are not playing the situation right. You wouldn't rush a sniper across the open with an SMG would you? Well why would you pop into the open against a combo user. All you need to do is dodge behind some cover and then you're free to kill the combo user. It's not difficult, and using the combo against good players is not easy. They will dodge the combo, so to use it you must either double team them in an effort to help your team mate, catch them in the open, or get a surprise attack. When the enemy has the combo, do not rush them in the open, or anywhere without immediate coverage.


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  • 07.18.2007 9:28 AM PDT
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i don't really see how its cheating, it takes skill to doubleshot and to bxr, if it didn't how come some players can't do it? all your doing is pressing buttons, its not cheating.

  • 07.18.2007 9:30 AM PDT

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Posted by: XLG HANDOFGOD
Since the outcome of every game depends solely on who gets host, I think its hilarious that anyone takes halo 2 this seriously. From an American point of view, im sick of getting the short end of the stick just because i have an excellent connection(T1). ie, laggy people have no problem hitting me but I cant hit them cuz their connection is so bad. And on the subject of double-shotting, it is a skill just like superbouncing. with practice and determination anyone can do it. In case you didnt know, it isnt that easy to land dub shotz consistently.


Okay first, double shooting is not easy, and I know you would not say that if you played people with any ammount of skill. If you have T1, then you can hit other people MUCH better than they can hit you. If you actually have T1, then check out your NAT because having no NAT helps A Lot. Super bouncing gives a player an unfair advantage. They can goto places where the CANT BE KILLED. You can't kill them. If i double shot and miss, i may not even kill you, then im open to be killed. It doesn't even make logical sense why people would try to put nub jumping and button combos on the same level. Sure they are both at their roots glitches. But one is a higher skill level combo you can perform on your opponent, and the other is putting yourself out of reach so they have no chance. One is skillful and sporty (why MLG allows them), and the other is sissy, unsportsmanlike, and ruins any competitive feel (Why MLG doesn't allow it). Super jumping matches aren't halo anymore, they're super jump matches. Who can run the glitches the hardest.

  • 07.18.2007 9:34 AM PDT
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I am surprised this isn't locked yet, discussing button glitching is against forum rules b/c it is a type of cheating since it exploits glitches.

HOWEVER, since they are so rampant, I am practicing these glitches to keep up with the competition. I use to be anti-BG's, but honestly in a dog eat dog world, it is either adapt or die. I would rather not die.

  • 07.18.2007 9:34 AM PDT

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Posted by: KEVINBROCK
Posted by: XLG HANDOFGOD
kevinbrock is trash look at his stats on bungie and you will see. and as for me being supposedly bad, look at my stats for HollowTipKilla and you will see that every game i get host i average 35 kills. the most this week was 87 kills in btb using sniper and br. KevinBrock was probably one of the bad kids i poned


Only bad kids talk about being better because their stats are better. Ive had this account since the game came out, plus I teach lessons and most of the time im not really trying. Good for you and your "35+ kills every game". Im going to give you a freaking cookie. I suppose now you want to challenge me to a 1 vs 1 to prove your "leetness". Thats always step 2 in proving not only how bad some kid is but also how insecure he is about himself. Sprout some pubies kid.....


I'd play him, i love a good friendly 1v1 match. And i love beating people after they've been boasting about how good they are. lol how are my levels? Am I a noob too? How about that 27 in H2C? 30th in that, semi-finals in H2C. But if that was my highest level I'd only be a 27, I must be uber nub.

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  • 07.18.2007 9:40 AM PDT

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Posted by: SPARTAN 1O4FRED
I am surprised this isn't locked yet, discussing button glitching is against forum rules b/c it is a type of cheating since it exploits glitches.

HOWEVER, since they are so rampant, I am practicing these glitches to keep up with the competition. I use to be anti-BG's, but honestly in a dog eat dog world, it is either adapt or die. I would rather not die.


Don't super jump because it's neither good sportsmanship or fun. I'm firmly against super jumping in a match, yet if the other team does it i don't mind if one of my team counter jumps. But button glitches are skillful and add depth. Since I havn't been practising for MLG's and whatnot, running scrims with pros. I've lost my BxR skill, but I've been working on my double shot, which comes in hand sometimes. So i can't BxR well yet I still made 30th in H2C, it's not about button glitching guys. It's about map control and team chemistry. "adaptability" It's about always giving yourself the advantage in every situation and not committing to the situations where you don't have the advantage.

  • 07.18.2007 9:45 AM PDT
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Seriously, if you think that button glitches are still cheating nowadays then just go play another game. Its not cheating its just another form of being better at the game.

  • 07.18.2007 9:51 AM PDT
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"A wise man once told me don't argue with fools, cause people from a distance can't tell who is who"

Hasn't this been discussed 1,000 times on this forum? The discussion is exactly the same everytime

Pro MLG: Button glitching adds another facet to the game. The use of glitches involves strategy. If there's an advantage built into the game why not use it.

Anti MLG: Glitching is against matchmaking rules. It's the exploitation of an animation glitch. It's fine to use glitches in custom and non-matchmaking games (MLG), but in matchmaking it's stricting prohibited.

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  • 07.18.2007 9:52 AM PDT
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Posted by: iTz SiLeNcEr
Seriously, if you think that button glitches are still cheating nowadays then just go play another game. Its not cheating its just another form of being better at the game.


And yet another person reviles his ignorance. Button glitching is, in fact, cheating. Saying otherwise is incorrect. And, no it doesn't make your better. In fact, I would consider someone that doesn't button glitch consistently better than someone who does.

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  • 07.18.2007 9:57 AM PDT
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Posted by: iTz SiLeNcEr
Seriously, if you think that button glitches are still cheating nowadays then just go play another game. Its not cheating its just another form of being better at the game.


That is exactly what the MLG dogma sounds like. It is a glitch, it is cheating, but as I have firmly stood against Button Glitching, I have revised my opinion b/c if you don't know how to do it and you play at certain ranks then you won't have a chance. The pursuit of being semi-pro or pro has ruined what was once fun and since the pros use button glitches in MLG LAN tournaments to win, then everyone else must emulate them. This is what MM has been relegated to, a bunch of people breaking the rules to gain the ability to say "You Got R4PED!!!"

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  • 07.18.2007 10:01 AM PDT

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making a new thread [/edit]

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  • 07.18.2007 10:02 AM PDT
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Posted by: SPARTAN 1O4FRED
Posted by: iTz SiLeNcEr
Seriously, if you think that button glitches are still cheating nowadays then just go play another game. Its not cheating its just another form of being better at the game.


That is exactly what the MLG dogma sounds like. It is a glitch, it is cheating, but as I have firmly stood against Button Glitching, I have revised my opinion b/c if you don't know how to do it and you play at certain ranks then you won't have a chance. The pursuit of being semi-pro or pro has ruined what was once fun and since the pros use cheating to win, then everyone else must emulate them. This is what MM has been relegated to, a bunch of people breaking the rules to gain the ability to say "You Got R4PED!!!"


Weather or not the pros used button glitches or not they would most likely still be the best.

  • 07.18.2007 10:02 AM PDT
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Posted by: SPARTAN 1O4FRED
Posted by: iTz SiLeNcEr
Seriously, if you think that button glitches are still cheating nowadays then just go play another game. Its not cheating its just another form of being better at the game.


That is exactly what the MLG dogma sounds like. It is a glitch, it is cheating, but as I have firmly stood against Button Glitching, I have revised my opinion b/c if you don't know how to do it and you play at certain ranks then you won't have a chance. The pursuit of being semi-pro or pro has ruined what was once fun and since the pros use cheating to win, then everyone else must emulate them. This is what MM has been relegated to, a bunch of people breaking the rules to gain the ability to say "You Got R4PED!!!"


Weather or not the pros used button glitches or not they would most likely still be the best.


That is not the point, but I do agree. They have the nature skill and hand-eye coordination to play at their level.

  • 07.18.2007 10:04 AM PDT
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It is a helpful glitch for Competitive Tournaments; however, it should not be used in Matchmaking.

  • 07.18.2007 10:08 AM PDT

Posted by: XLG HANDOFGOD
kevinbrock is trash look at his stats on bungie and you will see. and as for me being supposedly bad, look at my stats for HollowTipKilla and you will see that every game i get host i average 35 kills. the most this week was 87 kills in btb using sniper and br. KevinBrock was probably one of the bad kids i poned


lol i love when people say "look at my stats on my other account"

What a winner. Oh and "Hollowtipkilla" is 1.0 k/d ratio. im pretty sure that kevinbrocks is better than that. Honestly, i dont care what you can do in big team battle. You are terrible. The only reason your K/d ratio is above a 1.0 is because you play a hella lot of big team battle and team training.

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Posted by: XLG HANDOFGOD
kevinbrock is trash look at his stats on bungie and you will see. and as for me being supposedly bad, look at my stats for HollowTipKilla and you will see that every game i get host i average 35 kills. the most this week was 87 kills in btb using sniper and br. KevinBrock was probably one of the bad kids i poned


lol i love when people say "look at my stats on my other account"

What a winner. Oh and "Hollowtipkilla" is 1.0 k/d ratio. im pretty sure that kevinbrocks is better than that. Honestly, i dont care what you can do in big team battle. You are terrible. The only reason your K/d ratio is above a 1.0 is because you play a hella lot of big team battle and team training.

Your k/d is just over 1 with only 2500 games. What right do you have to make fun of someone else?

  • 07.18.2007 10:15 AM PDT

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Aight you halo toughguys, check my thread i made about the exception

  • 07.18.2007 10:20 AM PDT

i did not come on a forum and gloat about how great i am, and tell someone that is MLG, a lot better than me, with MUCH better stats that they are garbage and when i get host i am amazing, now did i? I will tell anyone that i am not a great halo player. I worked hard for my ratio. I started in november as a complete noob. Only in the past few months have i been able to get it above 1 after all the sucking i did when i first started playing. Look at games from november up till a couple months ago and you will see a big change. i am happy about that. I dont go around telling everyone i am great and everyone else sucks and i get 87 kills with host.

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  • 07.18.2007 10:21 AM PDT
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Can we get back to the original topic, otherwise, this will most definitely be locked.

  • 07.18.2007 10:23 AM PDT
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Half of you people have no idea what you are talking about. First off button glitches such as

BXB
BXR
RRX
RRX YY RRX

These are all considered to be in MLG. You are allowed to use button glitches in MLG. I wouldnt know what bungie would consider, but all I know is yes not everyone can do these glitches (just like the author said), but that is just like saying not everyone is good at pulling off a headshot or sniping, etc. Everyone is able to do it, so I say it should be allowed. If you do not know how to do it, you are stupid because we name these button glitches exactly how we say it (BXR) you just do it! and practice, it is not that hard.

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Posted by: KEVINBROCK
Posted by: XLG HANDOFGOD
kevinbrock is trash look at his stats on bungie and you will see. and as for me being supposedly bad, look at my stats for HollowTipKilla and you will see that every game i get host i average 35 kills. the most this week was 87 kills in btb using sniper and br. KevinBrock was probably one of the bad kids i poned


Only bad kids talk about being better because their stats are better. Ive had this account since the game came out, plus I teach lessons and most of the time im not really trying. Good for you and your "35+ kills every game". Im going to give you a freaking cookie. I suppose now you want to challenge me to a 1 vs 1 to prove your "leetness". Thats always step 2 in proving not only how bad some kid is but also how insecure he is about himself. Sprout some pubies kid.....


Who the hell do you think you are [XLG HANDOFGOD]. Are you seriously bragging about your stats... WOW! you must be retarded or something. The stats were restarted and you have no idea that many people dont even give a crap about their rank or their stats. Oh and I see you said you "poned" him, its called "pwned" not "poned". And anyone who gets host every game, no wonder you get 35+ kills every game (which it is probably less) .

  • 07.18.2007 10:55 AM PDT