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I am finding Halo 2 hard to play again ever since I started playing a week or so ago. The reason being is superjumping. It is cheating as stated by Bungie and almost all of the mods and many bnet people on this forum know about it. It is cheating, period. Yet 99% of all the people that do it in MM are either hypocritical or ignorant. The hypocrites, well we can never change that, but the ignorant we can. Honestly how hard is it for you Bungie to put in that "Did you know?" that superjumping is cheating (and BXR if you really want to, but that does not give an opponent a huge advantage) in bold letters.

You can change it, I know you can, you changed after the maps were updated, also this requires little to NO EFFORT since it is just a new text box. I have only played one game today, and what do you know? Half their team superjumps and I get continously spawn killed and there is nothing I can do about. Now it was Snipers, but as any somewhat novice to advanced player knows, two people on the roof of Zanzibar with one of them having host and you spawning in the open with your dam back facing the base, there is NOTHING you can do, no matter HOW skilled you are. Also, it is not like they have their other two mates making sure they are alive and distracting my teamates (which they kinda sucked). Oh and in the postgame, their entire team laughed at me when I said they were cheating, and no matter how technical I was to explain they just laughed.

EDIT (since no1 can read for some reason): My MAIN point is that Bungie would CREATE a NEW textbox in the "Did you Know" thing that appers while you wait for matches to load in matchmaking STATING that Superjumping IS A MANIPULATION OF THE HAVOK PHYSICS system and it IS CHEATING.

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  • 07.19.2007 9:47 AM PDT
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superjumping doesnt affect it that much. Button glitches you just have to get used to.

  • 07.19.2007 9:50 AM PDT
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it happens to every1,just deal with it and report them

  • 07.19.2007 9:52 AM PDT

My GT: ShadowzKiller
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LMAO you obviously have no played at against people who know how to play this game proficiently, because you know would know how significant of an advantage it has.

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Posted by: Wrecktified
superjumping doesnt affect it that much. Button glitches you just have to get used to.

We shouldn't have to get used to players cheating; it's not right.

Unfortunately, nothing can be done about superbouncing. I do believe a Ninja said that this glitch has something to do with the geometry; this is the foundation of the game, changing it would cause many problems. I'm no programmer, however, if it was a simple thing to do, Bungie would have sorted this problem out already.

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Posted by: Cardenio
Posted by: Wrecktified
superjumping doesnt affect it that much. Button glitches you just have to get used to.

We shouldn't have to get used to players cheating; it's not right.

Unfortunately, nothing can be done about superbouncing. I do believe a Ninja said that this glitch has something to do with the geometry; this is the foundation of the game, changing it would cause many problems. I'm no programmer, however, if it was a simple thing to do, Bungie would have sorted this problem out already.

~ Cardenio

You are absolutely right. We shouldnt have to put up with glitchers. But seeing as their not going to be fixed its better to accept them than rant about them.

  • 07.19.2007 10:00 AM PDT

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Read my post more carefully and you would understand what I am attempting to say: PUT A NEW TEXT BOX IN THE "DID YOU KNOW?" while waiting for a game to load in MM STATING HOW SUPERJUMPING IS CHEATING, PERIOD.

  • 07.19.2007 10:00 AM PDT
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actually, bungie says superjumping ISN'T cheating so that's probably why 99% of people do it.

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/content.aspx?link=h2cheating

  • 07.19.2007 10:06 AM PDT

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Dear God! Here's a link stating that it is, that page has not been updated in a long time.

Posted by: Achronos
It doesn't really matter what is in the cheating FAQ - the FAQ is meant mostly to inform people about the banhammer (which is used for modding and standby type cheating only). All other kinds fall under the standard usage of every other Xbox Live game - as in, use the feedback system if you see someone cheating. Exploiting a bug (superjumping, animation glitches like BXR) are against the terms of use, and therefore should be reported using the feedback system. Enough feedback actually will get someone banned for various lengths of time from ALL of Xbox Live, not just Halo 2.


Here's the link to that . Use the search feature....

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Posted by: ShadowzKiller
Read my post more carefully and you would understand what I am attempting to say: PUT A NEW TEXT BOX IN THE "DID YOU KNOW?" while waiting for a game to load in MM STATING HOW SUPERJUMPING IS CHEATING, PERIOD.


Okay, kid. Don't get too hotheaded about this. Maybe you shouldn't have bored us all with your tedious complaint and suggestion and we might have bothered to read your post thoroughly.

Ah, well. Say what you like, but, this idea won't reach Bungie directly, therefore, it won't happen. Don't waste your time in future.

~ Cardenio

  • 07.19.2007 10:10 AM PDT

That and learn to type. Your original post was so difficult to read I gave up half way through. Typically we try to use correct grammar so things actually make since. Also, you won't look like such a retarded dill hole.

  • 07.19.2007 10:12 AM PDT
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now that we have moved on from this I need some answers with a problem im having... (and i don't know how to put up a new topic, i made this 30 seconds ago)

after 2 games in Halo 2 matchmaking, I'd be running along and everytime at 11:42 minutes left on the clock, I get the message "Cannot connect to xbox live, would you like to trouble shoot?" But my connection is fine for every time i just hit cancel I can go back into a pregame lobby like nothing happened.

can anyone help or lead me to the right forum...?

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  • 07.19.2007 10:17 AM PDT
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do you mean bounces like these

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I would rather they work on Halo 3 then waste time on halo 2.

  • 07.19.2007 10:32 AM PDT
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Posted by: ShadowzKiller
I am finding Halo 2 hard to play again ever since I started playing a week or so ago. The reason being is superjumping. It is cheating as stated by Bungie and almost all of the mods and many bnet people on this forum know about it. It is cheating, period. Yet 99% of all the people that do it in MM are either hypocritical or ignorant. The hypocrites, well we can never change that, but the ignorant we can. Honestly how hard is it for you Bungie to put in that "Did you know?" that superjumping is cheating (and BXR if you really want to, but that does not give an opponent a huge advantage) in bold letters.

You can change it, I know you can, you changed after the maps were updated, also this requires little to NO EFFORT since it is just a new text box. I have only played one game today, and what do you know? Half their team superjumps and I get continously spawn killed and there is nothing I can do about. Now it was Snipers, but as any somewhat novice to advanced player knows, two people on the roof of Zanzibar with one of them having host and you spawning in the open with your dam back facing the base, there is NOTHING you can do, no matter HOW skilled you are. Also, it is not like they have their other two mates making sure they are alive and distracting my teamates (which they kinda sucked). Oh and in the postgame, their entire team laughed at me when I said they were cheating, and no matter how technical I was to explain they just laughed.

EDIT (since no1 can read for some reason): My MAIN point is that Bungie would CREATE a NEW textbox in the "Did you Know" thing that appers while you wait for matches to load in matchmaking STATING that Superjumping IS A MANIPULATION OF THE HAVOK PHYSICS system and it IS CHEATING.


shut up superjumps are cool

  • 07.19.2007 10:34 AM PDT

since you like people following the rules and all maybe you should start, there are to be no threads talking about superjumping. Yes this is considered one of them, For or against does not matter, if your thread is for superjumping you will have people argue with you and if you are against them people will argue with you that like them . this is one of the reasons that you are not supposed to make any threads on this topic or anything correlating to this topic.

  • 07.19.2007 10:42 AM PDT
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I hate it when people super jump too, but I don't think it gives players much of an advantage. It's still easy to snipe'em even if their up on some roof.

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to "fix" superbouncing you would have to re-write substantial portions of the physics generator and the map frameworks, not something you do 2 months before you release the new game.

  • 07.19.2007 11:10 AM PDT

i'm not in favor of fixing super jumping, but in all reality, the quick fix would just be to put a death barrier on all the levels instead of just invisible walls and such

  • 07.19.2007 11:13 AM PDT
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super jumping is too widespread to start banning people for, and bxr is a glitch, but its somthing anyone and everyone can do. get with the program. stop whining and go play a different game or fight fire with fire.

  • 07.19.2007 11:22 AM PDT

Didact's Reprisal -
Now is the time of our unworlding
One final effort is all that remains
And I am not afraid
We shall fulfill our promise
We fight for the grace of the Mantle
And this time none of you will be left behind

Do what I do: play big team battle. If one or two people superjump, it isn't as useful or annoying.

  • 07.19.2007 11:44 AM PDT
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Ill confess i superjump in matchmaking but only to see where people are.

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Posted by: That DAM n00b
to "fix" superbouncing you would have to re-write substantial portions of the physics generator and the map frameworks, not something you do 2 months before you release the new game.

atleast theres one person in this thread that knows the difference between super bounces and superjumps

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  • 07.19.2007 12:26 PM PDT

Do what it takes to win, cause it's do or die and living aint a sin.

I used to complain about the superjumps. But since noone is doing anything about I've just stuck to an old motto

If you can't beat em
join em

in other words use the same strategies against them.
see how they like to be killed from a spot they can't see or hide a flag in a wall. do whatever it takes to win, because loosing is not an option

  • 07.19.2007 12:50 PM PDT

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