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Subject: Post counter/ "question points."

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Alright, so multiple times I've seen people create threads about how they wished Bungie.net had a post-count. It's been thoroughly discussed, and I've seen enough evidence to prove to me it's a horrible idea. The threads have too much spam as it is, and this would only encourage it.

But I think it is a valid argument that helpful members of the B.net community should get recognition for their services on the forums. I've seen some interesting ways of doing so, specifically on the Apple discussion page. Now, I know some of you might not like Apple, but bear with me here.

The Apple forums are based off of "question points." When a question is asked, (I'm assuming) a moderator marks that as a "question." If someone answers the question, another moderator (again, assumption) awards points. The point value varies according to the complexity of the answer, and "helpful" hints get fewer points, as to "complete" answers get full points. They also go by a star system, where the amount of points you get gives you a higher rating.

I'm not suggesting all of this be implemented in the Bungie forums, and I understand that a lot of this encourages "elitism." Although, how much "elitism" or "bragging rights" can you have if all that you're bragging about is how much help you are? It takes a lot of the steam away, and you can instantly see who knows what they're talking about. If someone answers a billion questions and gets a billion points, sure, they might have a higher rank than someone new, but all that it means is that they answered a bunch of questions, and gives them a sort of recognition that they wouldn't normally get.

Now, I understand how difficult this would be to implement, I just read all these threads about how "post counts R leet!", and thought that this might be a better solution than just a simple counter.

I also understand how much more this would ask of our moderators, who already put tons of time and effort into keeping these forums clean. And I'm not expecting this to work, ever. It's just a thought, and I would like to get some input on the idea.

  • 07.19.2007 10:59 AM PDT

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Heh. Point taken.

You ask for a lot, Recon.

  • 07.19.2007 11:04 AM PDT
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It seems a bit complex, and relies a bit too much on human input (and luck).

If an automatic system could be devised for it, which would be able to differentiate between spam, nonsensical answers, and good answers, it could prove helpful.

Is Achronos still working on a ranking system, or was that dropped?

  • 07.19.2007 11:06 AM PDT

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Posted by: Mabian
Is Achronos still working on a ranking system, or was that dropped?

Not a clue. I don't even remember hearing about such a thing (not that it doesn't exist).

If Achronos can get something to work, sweet. If not, no harm done.

  • 07.19.2007 11:08 AM PDT
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Posted by: Mabian
Is Achronos still working on a ranking system, or was that dropped?



I'm sure it was dropped.

Personally, I don't like any idea of this, I think the forum is good with out any sort of ranking or point system.

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Posted by: Gzalzi
Personally, I don't like any idea of this, I think the forum is good with out any sort of ranking or point system.


As do I, but good people want some sort of “thank you,” and since Achronos and the ninjas probably don’t want to go out and find good members and send them constant PMs about the good job they’re doing, I think a ranking system, or at least some sort of rewarding system, will have to be implemented. Gold stars, different names, more powers, just something.

I mostly dislike the potential for people trying to be good to get the cool stuff, but my last statement about something like that went as thus:

“I would rather that a man be good for the wrong reasons than not be good at all.”

Curse human nature...

  • 07.19.2007 11:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: Gzalzi
Posted by: Mabian
Is Achronos still working on a ranking system, or was that dropped?

I'm sure it was dropped.

Obviously you guys didn't listen to what kind of system it was.. It's still in place. How it works, he's not giving up, as once you know how it works, it's easier to abuse. It records something we do..

As for rewards for being highly regarded by this system? I have no idea where those went. ;) I guess not being blacklisted is a reward in and of itself, is it not?

  • 07.19.2007 11:14 AM PDT

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Posted by: SS_Zag1
Obviously you guys didn't listen to what kind of system it was.. It's still in place.

Really? There's a behind-the-scenes ranking system? I've honestly never heard of this.. Can you link to the thread or something?

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Posted by: SS_Zag1
Obviously you guys didn't listen to what kind of system it was.. It's still in place. How it works, he's not giving up, as once you know how it works, it's easier to abuse. It records something we do..

As for rewards for being highly regarded by this system? I have no idea where those went. ;) I guess not being blacklisted is a reward in and of itself, is it not?


If it's in place, I would think that there would be a reason for its existance. So if it is doing something besides tracking, then the rewards must be "behind the scenes" as well.

I have guesses, but nothing more.

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Posted by: SS_Zag1
Posted by: Gzalzi
Posted by: Mabian
Is Achronos still working on a ranking system, or was that dropped?

I'm sure it was dropped.

Obviously you guys didn't listen to what kind of system it was.. It's still in place. How it works, he's not giving up, as once you know how it works, it's easier to abuse. It records something we do..

As for rewards for being highly regarded by this system? I have no idea where those went. ;) I guess not being blacklisted is a reward in and of itself, is it not?


Yea, I remember something about a system, but I have heard nothing about it in awhile, so I assumed it had been dropped.

  • 07.19.2007 11:20 AM PDT

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So, there's a F-117 patrolling the forums, and we have no idea what it does..

Anyone have a link to the thread?

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Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: Gzalzi
Yea, I remember something about a system, but I have heard nothing about it in awhile, so I assumed it had been dropped.

Like a F-117 drops off of radar.


Ohhh, sneaky, sneaky, sneaky!

Edit: Fixed Link

[Edited on 07.19.2007 11:34 AM PDT]

  • 07.19.2007 11:34 AM PDT

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Posted by: Basilisk666
So, there's a F-117 patrolling the forums, and we have no idea what it does..

Anyone have a link to the thread?


Which? The one's where Achronos mentions this stuff? Ooh boy.. *grabs a shovel* I'm going to start digging..

These aren't quite what you're looking for, but they're kind of around the time we discussed this heavily:
Recon's post about possibly rewards
Page 4 of a Karma System thread. Achronos posts. (scroll down)

Those are the two I can find right off the bat.. I'd have to really look. I suggest you use the search feature with the words "Reward System".

  • 07.19.2007 11:38 AM PDT

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Thanks, Zag. Exactly what I was looking for.

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Posted by: Basilisk666
So, there's a F-117 patrolling the forums, and we have no idea what it does..

Anyone have a link to the thread?

I will try to dig up the thread for you once I post this. Nevermind, Zag got it.

I have thought of this for a long time, beginning with Recon's long idea on how a Windows Live ID should be more attached to an identity. Since then, I have been pondering this idea. To be honest though, if you are truly a good member, then you don't need rewards or perks. A truly good member will take another's gratitude as a reward. But none the less, I admit, it would be nice to see what is behind the curtain.

[Edited on 07.19.2007 11:45 AM PDT]

  • 07.19.2007 11:44 AM PDT