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Wouldn't it be funny if each forum had a "hall of shame" sticky where the ninjas just pwned kids for making idiotic, off-topic, or redundant threads? In the h3 forum right now there is a sticky featuring the pwnage of some loser who was complaining about "free speech" saying he should be able to post leaked material. The ninja and achronos just tore him up and i think it would be a good/funny way for admins of the forums to release stress, create comedy, and promote forum rules in general.

here's a link to that hilarious sticky

Can you imagine if you posted something that had been posted A MILLION times and all of sudden.....-blam!-.....you're stickied as an idiot.

like when liquor stores post blown up photos of fake ids, and write satiric commentary all over them.


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  • 07.19.2007 11:33 AM PDT

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I think it would be a good idea, other than encouraging flaming..

If someone thought that there was the possibility of being torn apart for their post, they're less likely to post something idiotic. Sounds good in theory, but would it work?

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That would be made of win, (albeit a bad idea) but then everyone would complain about how elitist they are and blah blah blah.

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We here at B.net like to foster constructiveness, not idiocy.

People would simply try to make dumb posts to make the Hall of Shame.

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good point, i guess i was thinking more of the kids who are like:

"hey guyz iz there any n3ws about online co/op in h3? tHankX"

  • 07.19.2007 11:38 AM PDT

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.. I think you missed the entire point of that being stickied.

That's not what Achronos and Recon are doing at all. They're not 'pwning the guy' for our public entertainment. They're not actually owning him either, they're just stating how it is. The guy said "What's with the lack of free speech?" so Recon and Achronos replied to tell him exactly what's going on there. It's actually not sitting there for you to go "LOL Soldaun got owned!!!"

Seriously. :P You completely missed the point.

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.. I think you missed the entire point of that being stickied.

That's not what Achronos and Recon are doing at all. They're not 'pwning the guy' for our public entertainment. They're not actually owning him either, they're just stating how it is. The guy said "What's with the lack of free speech?" so Recon and Achronos replied to tell him exactly what's going on there. It's actually not sitting there for you to go "LOL Soldaun got owned!!!"

Seriously. :P You completely missed the point.
just to clarify, i completely do see the point of it sitting there: to explain copyright infringement and reiterate the TOS on bungie.net. i'm just saying i thought it was hilarious that soldaun completely had no idea why he couldnt post leaked material (he said bungie should get off its "pedistool" hahahah) so i know it wasn't their goal to humiliate him, but it just gave me the idea. sorry captain important.

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  • 07.19.2007 11:56 AM PDT

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Posted by: xdwightschrutex
i thought it was hilarious that soldaun completely had no idea why he couldnt post leaked material......

No he knew exactly why he couldnt, he just decided to throw a tantrum because he couldnt get what he wanted.

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Posted by: xdwightschrutex
i thought it was hilarious that soldaun completely had no idea why he couldnt post leaked material......

No he knew exactly why he couldnt, he just decided to throw a tantrum because he couldnt get what he wanted.
ummm actually he had no idea why he couldnt; in fact, he said it himself in his first sentence:

"I don't understand why we can't post links to info we find on other sites, granded that info is a leak why can we have links to it. It's kind of pointless to ban someone over a link to a different site unless the link is to a site that is offensive. I guarantee half the people on here want to know the link to the elephant but people that are all high and mighty need to get off that stupid pedistool of theirs, I mean just because you have the ability to ban us over it doesn;t mean you should go on a power trip and make ridiculous rules. I mean if it has to do with campiagn by all means ban someone for the link but if it's mulitplayer WTF. I know someone might be making up the elephant but my point is allow links to info on this game as long as it doesn;t have to do with campiagn. We want to know whats in store for us in multiplayer and if that info is available to me I want to have the opportunity to view that info without getting in trouble. I'm not sure but doesn't this rule conflict with the right of free speech?"

yes his grammar and spelling are atrocious, but he thinks the only links that should be banned are offensive ones. he also says people cant see links to the elephant because people are "high and mighty"

you are wrong

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Posted by: SS_Zag1
.. I think you missed the entire point of that being stickied.

That's not what Achronos and Recon are doing at all. They're not 'pwning the guy' for our public entertainment. They're not actually owning him either, they're just stating how it is. The guy said "What's with the lack of free speech?" so Recon and Achronos replied to tell him exactly what's going on there. It's actually not sitting there for you to go "LOL Soldaun got owned!!!"

Seriously. :P You completely missed the point.



agreed....i believe they were stressing copyright law among other legalities more than anything

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Posted by: DEATHPIMP72
Anyone but Foman. He smells like cheese.

I agree with the previous reasons not to do this, but I'd also like to make a "golden rule" reminder.

Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

Look, we all make mistakes. I challenge anybody on this forum to honestly and truly say that they have never made a mistake, posted something that they eventually wanted to (or did) take back, or had a bad idea that they posted here (case in point). How would you like it if your post was then stickied and locked forever, and then handed over to a bunch of other people for your reputation and dignity to be publicly pummeled, never to fall off the front page or be forgotten?

This community is supposed to be a laid back place for fun and (ideally) intelligent discussion -- not a place where certain people devour others in a quest to make themselves look witty and smart and others look stupid. I agree that you seem to have misread Recon's and Achronos's posts in the thread you linked -- they were not trying to make the guy look stupid. They were simply explaining the flaws in his argument and did it in a manner that avoided putting a lot of feel-good fluff around the basic facts. Sometimes, this is necessary so that people do not mistake the feel-good fluff as an invitation to a counter-argument.

In short, I completely disagree with this idea for the reasons previously stated, and I hope that you can use the golden rule concepts to realize just how mean and unhelpful this kind of thing would be.

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ahhh i didnt miss the point! i think it's funny because the poor kid had no IDEA that copyright law applied and then he had to get lectured like a child! and it's a sticky now! he's infamously pathetically ignorant!

i understand their main purpose was copyright law but STILL i found humor in it.

YIKES, i guess no one else found it funny but me

  • 07.19.2007 12:10 PM PDT

Posted by: xdwightschrutex
ummm actually he had no idea why he couldnt; in fact, he said it himself in his first sentence:


No, he knew damn well why he couldn't post pirated material. The OP was just throwing out a red herring so he could claim ignorance so his post held water. Which it didn't. Which is why Recon and Achronos shot him down in 10 seconds flat.

People want Bungie to be like other irresponsible forums where everyone can post whatever they want with no ramifications.

  • 07.19.2007 12:10 PM PDT

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Like others have stated already, we don't really want threads parading the apparent stupidity of some people on the forums. It's also not nice to those who made an honest, first time mistake.

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Posted by: x Foman123 x
I agree with the previous reasons not to do this, but I'd also like to make a "golden rule" reminder.

Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

Look, we all make mistakes. I challenge anybody on this forum to honestly and truly say that they have never made a mistake, posted something that they eventually wanted to (or did) take back, or had a bad idea that they posted here (case in point). How would you like it if your post was then stickied and locked forever, and then handed over to a bunch of other people for your reputation and dignity to be publicly pummeled, never to fall off the front page or be forgotten?

This community is supposed to be a laid back place for fun and (ideally) intelligent discussion -- not a place where certain people devour others in a quest to make themselves look witty and smart and others look stupid. I agree that you seem to have misread Recon's and Achronos's posts in the thread you linked -- they were not trying to make the guy look stupid. They were simply explaining the flaws in his argument and did it in a manner that avoided putting a lot of feel-good fluff around the basic facts. Sometimes, this is necessary so that people do not mistake the feel-good fluff as an invitation to a counter-argument.

In short, I completely disagree with this idea for the reasons previously stated, and I hope that you can use the golden rule concepts to realize just how mean and unhelpful this kind of thing would be.

the chosen one has chosen to address me???!!! i feel important

i really do respect your intelligence foman, you can tell just from your consistent grammar that you have a good head on your shoulders.....but golden rule shmolden rule, o great chosen one! excuse my heresy but i think these forums could use quite a bit of "house cleaning."

for example, i just went to the h3 forum and found this post

wow....really?.....servers 1 and 2 are open and you click crap on them to get files??? wow.....

are you saying this is a highly valued b.net member that we would miss if he got upset and left?

also, people are making fun of me and my feelings aren't hurt.

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Posted by: xdwightschrutex
wow....really?.....servers 1 and 2 are open and you click crap on them to get files??? wow.....

are you saying this is a highly valued b.net member that we would miss if he got upset and left?

also, people are making fun of me and my feelings aren't hurt.

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  • 07.19.2007 12:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: DEATHPIMP72
Anyone but Foman. He smells like cheese.

Posted by: xdwightschrutex
the chosen one has chosen to address me???!!! i feel important

i really do respect your intelligence foman, you can tell just from your consistent grammar that you have a good head on your shoulders.....but golden rule shmolden rule, o great chosen one! excuse my heresy but i think these forums could use quite a bit of "house cleaning."

for example, i just went to the h3 forum and found this post

wow....really?.....servers 1 and 2 are open and you click crap on them to get files??? wow.....

are you saying this is a highly valued b.net member that we would miss if he got upset and left?

also, people are making fun of me and my feelings aren't hurt.

Well thanks for the compliments.

As far as making people upset goes, I think that there are two reasons not to make people upset and cause them to leave, both of them equally valid.

First Reason
First is the practical reason. Who are we to judge who we are allowed to make upset and leave? Just because somebody was not up-to-date on the most recent ARG news does not mean that this person will never contribute positively to the Bungie community. It's important to keep in mind that people have lives outside Bungie and sometimes do not realize that events have transpired and been discussed thoroughly.

Besides that, even if we were to sticky-and-publicly-crucify somebody who was WAY behind on the news (let's say somebody posts "I heard that Halo 3 is coming out sometime in 2007!"), where do you decide where to draw the line? How stupid does a post have to be before it gets stickied? How worthless does a member have to be before we care if he/she leaves or not? How do we determine whether a user will eventually be a positive contributing member of the Community and should thus be encouraged to stay?

This is a pressure that nobody should be forced to bear. That is why threads are locked more often than users are instantly banned. That is why so many of the moderators are polite about enforcing the rules. It is better to have people here and encourage them to follow the rules rather than to banish those who make the slightest misstep.

Second Reason
The second reason is the financial reason. Bungie is a corporation that must answer to its shareholders. Bungie's shareholders are concerned with the company making money. This depends on the company having as many fans as possible -- preferably ravingly happy fans.

Now before I go too far, let me reiterate something here: what's good for Bungie is good for us. If Bungie makes a ton of money, they have more resources to make awesome games and do other things to please their fans.

For this reason, those of us who truly are Bungie fans and want to see great games and products from Bungie in the future all have an interest in keeping these forums friendly and encouraging. We completely burn a guy here in these forums, and he goes and tell all of his friends that the "Bungie people are a bunch of a-holes," then he and any of his friends who might be on the fence about buying Bungie games will be inclined not to. I'm not talking about the people who love Halo so much that you could basically send Jason Jones to stab them in the chest and they would still buy Halo 3. I mean the people who might be casual recreational video game players who are swayed by word-of-mouth to buy games.

These same people -- who, by the way, far outnumber the rabid Bungie fans on this forum -- will be much more encouraged to buy Halo 3 if we here on the b.net forums set a good example and are mature and patient with our newer, younger colleagues, who will then go and tell all their friends, "You know what, those Bungie guys are pretty cool!"

In the long run, such actions encourage people to buy Bungie products, funneling more money into the company and allowing it to make bigger and sweeter products -- a win for all of us.

In conclusion, if you don't think that we fans should be thinking about this kind of thing, you at least can bet your ass that the Bungie.net web team is thinking about it. There is a balance to be struck here, and that balance does not include public ridicule of new forum users.

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Posted by: twinkiemaker
Then every idiot would want his day in the sun.

Dont encourage them.

  • 07.19.2007 12:46 PM PDT

Here is a link to a thread that should be hall of shame Link

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