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Subject: what do you think of the BR and RRX?
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I think it is the most versatile weapon in the game. As of now, I only bother with team hardcore. It is obviously great at long distances, but can be quite effective in short range too. (Not talking about BXR) I mean you get a quick beat down in, and then just single headshot kills them. The only dual wield I ever lose to now is the brute plasma combo. (That thing is just a beast) I dont know why so many people on this forum keep talking bad about it. The SMG is a terrible spawning weapon. If the other team has high ground, you are always going to die, hence why I never play slayer.

The double shot, another thing that people complain about, also adds to the depth of the game. Now there have been so many posts about how its cheap and against the rules. I frankly dont care. Nobody will ever get banned for it, and Bungie cant do anything about it, so it has become part of the game whether you like it or not. Now doing the glitches like RRX and BXR dont make me a good player. I just think it makes it a little more interesting. If you get double shotted, the person who did it to you is probably very good and can beat you anyways. To be able to pull it off and still get headshots on a consistant basis requires a lot of skill, especially for people like me and the majority of the players who dont claw. I also only use it when either I have no chance of losing, such as the guy doesn't even see me, or if it against a cheap weapon like the sword or noob combo. Trying to do it in an even battle is just stupid. If you dont do it, you are going to reload and will lose a fight you could have won. I also find the BXR messes up more often than not, so I rarely go after someone with the intention of BXRing him.

This thread will get locked because it is the admins jobs to prevent talking about things that are technically against the rules, but just realize that BXR and RRX have become part of the game, and nothing will be done about it if you fall victim to one of these button combos, so stop complaining about it. Either learn how to do them or wait for the glorious day Halo 3 is released.

  • 07.24.2007 9:48 AM PDT

Why the hell are you looking at this? Get out.

And no group invites, you jerk. I'm not interested.

The battle rifle is too versatile. It performs better than other things at close and long ranges. With button combos, that advantage is doubled.

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  • 07.24.2007 9:51 AM PDT
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i HAAAAATE the bxr in hardcore ur about to gun some1 down and they got no sheild and they come up to u and u get BXR on and pisses me off, i no how to do the bxr but overall bxr is very -blam!- and double shot is stupid too i just hate these glitches

  • 07.24.2007 9:55 AM PDT
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Most of my bxrs end up taking two shots but im getting better. But does anyone do a bxrrx? Ive tried it and its hard

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  • 07.24.2007 10:02 AM PDT

The glitches utterly ruin the intended balance and variety of the game. They are cheating when used in matchmaking, that's a fact.

What's also a fact is that outside matchmaking, you can do as you please because it's your rules. So if you like playing with them and feel they add another dimension to gameplay, use them all you want in customs and LANs and tournaments.

  • 07.24.2007 10:02 AM PDT

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Kevin's post = breath of fresh air.
Take it from this guy people, he knows what he's talking about.

Second accounts are NOT cheating:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=13824

Posted by: Wrecktified
Most of my bxrs end up taking two shots but im getting better. But does anyone do a bxrrx? Ive tried it and its hard


Thats usually how I end up doing a BxR.

  • 07.24.2007 10:08 AM PDT
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Posted by: RhythmKiller
The glitches utterly ruin the intended balance and variety of the game. They are cheating when used in matchmaking, that's a fact.

What's also a fact is that outside matchmaking, you can do as you please because it's your rules. So if you like playing with them and feel they add another dimension to gameplay, use them all you want in customs and LANs and tournaments.

Hang on a second. If most of the halo community uses button glitches then they are balancing out. If you were doing a 2v2 and everyone could do a bxr,rrx and bxb flawlessly then wheres the imbalance? Nowhere. If you cant do them then that is not our fault but yours. If someone that can do it faces someone who cant there will be an imbalance but seeing as their not too to do hard its mainly the person who cants do its fault. Basically, learn them and you wont be able to complain and the imbalance will get smaller.

[Edited on 07.24.2007 10:15 AM PDT]

  • 07.24.2007 10:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: Wrecktified
Posted by: RhythmKiller
The glitches utterly ruin the intended balance and variety of the game. They are cheating when used in matchmaking, that's a fact.

What's also a fact is that outside matchmaking, you can do as you please because it's your rules. So if you like playing with them and feel they add another dimension to gameplay, use them all you want in customs and LANs and tournaments.

Hang on a second. If most of the halo community uses button glitches then they are balancing out. If you were doing a 2v2 and everyone could do a bxr,rrx and bxb flawlessly then wheres the imbalance? Nowhere. If you cant do them then that is not our fault but yours. If someone that can do it faces someone who cant there will be an imbalance but seeing as their not too to do hard its mainly the person who cants do its fault. Basically, learn them and you wont be able to complain and the imbalance will get smaller.


I agree with wrecktified. They are skillful combos that are hard to perform. So the people who perform them the best, overall would more likely be the better player. And the people who do not know how to use them, would most likely be on a the lower "entry" level. Thus, to the people who get killed by a glitch, should have known to not be in that position. So in general it would be a silly nub mistake when you rush in and get BxRed. I would just like to say that if you are ever in a strafe battle, and your opponent quad shots you, you must give him props because what he just did was crazy.

  • 07.24.2007 10:22 AM PDT

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Kevin's post = breath of fresh air.
Take it from this guy people, he knows what he's talking about.

Second accounts are NOT cheating:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=13824

The funny thing is that I dont even need the glitches to win. I dont use them against bad kids because they are already easy enough to punish. If you cant push a few buttons in sequence then you shouldnt be playing, if you decide to play anyway then prepare yourself....

  • 07.24.2007 10:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: KEVINBROCK
The funny thing is that I dont even need the glitches to win. I dont use them against bad kids because they are already easy enough to punish. If you cant push a few buttons in sequence then you shouldnt be playing, if you decide to play anyway then prepare yourself....

Yeah you kinda described me.
Heres an anecdote. This guy i did a team slayer game with wanted me to teach him how to BXR....thats all i have to say.

  • 07.24.2007 10:39 AM PDT
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I totally agree with both of you BUT Bungie says it is cheating...so until they change their mind we still can't talk about it and can't use it in matchmaking

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But i dont really think anyone leaves feedback on button glitches seeing as their so widely used.

Also then why is it legal in mlg then?

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  • 07.24.2007 10:44 AM PDT

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lol... its legal in MLG because it adds depth to the game, and because its their tournament. But bungie says its glitching, and the people who cant think for themselves on here agree with them that it's cheating. Remember, bungie is a bunch of average gamers who don't like getting destroyed, much like many people on these forums.

  • 07.24.2007 10:48 AM PDT
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I knew why but im just pointing it out to the Impy1 said its cheating.

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Its legal at MLG b/c they are independant from Bungie and can create their own rules. As far as leaving feedback from it, I've never heard of anyone getting banned for using a br glitch, or even a superjump for that matter. In my opinion, they have better things to worry about. People still find a way to bridge and standbye.Technically these glitches are against the rules, so Bungie must say it is not allowed. If you agree with them, it is likely you dont have an opinion for yourself, or are at a low skill level. Bungie's game designers dont play the game on live. They just test it. They have no idea how the game is played at th higher levels where these glitches are more likely to happen.

I agree with a lot of what people are saying. Avoiding things like the BXR is easy. Just dont rush in like a nub. Make them fight in your style if your scared of getting BXRed. Now if someone double shots you, there's nothing you can do about it. They probably can beat you anyways. You're gonna respawn in 5 seconds, go back and try to get him back. Nobody does the double shot perfectly in MM.

  • 07.24.2007 11:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: Zach The One
lol... its legal in MLG because it adds depth to the game, and because its their tournament. But bungie says its glitching, and the people who cant think for themselves on here agree with them that it's cheating. Remember, bungie is a bunch of average gamers who don't like getting destroyed, much like many people on these forums.


The best part about this quote...is it can be spun the other way to say the exact same about the MLG following.

MLG does it because it's their organization, they make the rules. If they choose to, in 2008, they could ban glitches, and everyone would drop them without a second thought. Here's what you need to remember, outside of MM, outside of Bungie's realm, you are free to make up whatever rules you want, but inside of MM, your rules, MLG's rules, whatever, are not the rules, Bungie's rules are. If you don't like it, leave.

Outside of MM, it is up to yourself to decide if you want to use glitches or not because you are not bound by the rules of Bungie. But inside of MM, you respect Bungie's rules just like you respect MLG's rules at their tournaments...or are you saying that you would do the same and go against MLG's rules?

And for those who don't know, I am AGAINST glitches in MM, I am all for them in customs or any other independent way of playing.

  • 07.24.2007 11:33 AM PDT
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Ha someone finally got it right. As I said in my original post, in no way do I think i am a better player b/c I used the bxr or double shot. I think I'm good because I play with a team and use smart tactics. Calling out positions, Teaming shotting, and spacing out efficiently is what halo is really about. To the poeple that complain on these forums, you didnt lose because you got "cheated", you lost because they other team communicated better. After a certain point, skill doesnt matter. You could be better than everyone else in the game, but if you just rush in by yourself all the time, your probably gonna lose. Hence people posting about how they have low MM ranks and that the only reason they lose is because of bad team mates.

  • 07.24.2007 11:39 AM PDT
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Posted by: Zach The One
lol... its legal in MLG because it adds depth to the game, and because its their tournament. But bungie says its glitching, and the people who cant think for themselves on here agree with them that it's cheating. Remember, bungie is a bunch of average gamers who don't like getting destroyed, much like many people on these forums.


The best part about this quote...is it can be spun the other way to say the exact same about the MLG following.

MLG does it because it's their organization, they make the rules. If they choose to, in 2008, they could ban glitches, and everyone would drop them without a second thought. Here's what you need to remember, outside of MM, outside of Bungie's realm, you are free to make up whatever rules you want, but inside of MM, your rules, MLG's rules, whatever, are not the rules, Bungie's rules are. If you don't like it, leave.

Outside of MM, it is up to yourself to decide if you want to use glitches or not because you are not bound by the rules of Bungie. But inside of MM, you respect Bungie's rules just like you respect MLG's rules at their tournaments...or are you saying that you would do the same and go against MLG's rules?

And for those who don't know, I am AGAINST glitches in MM, I am all for them in customs or any other independent way of playing.

+rep for a great post

  • 07.24.2007 11:42 AM PDT
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Ha someone finally got it right. As I said in my original post, in no way do I think i am a better player b/c I used the bxr or double shot. I think I'm good because I play with a team and use smart tactics. Calling out positions, Teaming shotting, and spacing out efficiently is what halo is really about. To the poeple that complain on these forums, you didnt lose because you got "cheated", you lost because they other team communicated better. After a certain point, skill doesnt matter. You could be better than everyone else in the game, but if you just rush in by yourself all the time, your probably gonna lose. Hence people posting about how they have low MM ranks and that the only reason they lose is because of bad team mates.


People use anything as excuses though to help "justify" why they lost, because as we all know, nobody can lose legit anymore, there is always some underlying reason as to how they shouldn't have lost.

I agree though, anyone who blames a loss on glitches needs to wake up. You can blame glitches and being cheaply killed, but not on the loss itself.

  • 07.24.2007 11:42 AM PDT
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Halo Is A Game. MLG customs is where its at, if you agree C/P this into your signature

Button glitches are fair and balanced. Everybody and anybody can use them so how is it unfair. It does add skill and balance to the game and the people who whine and complain about it are usually bad at halo anyway. Think about it, all button glitches are is hitting certain buttons on your controller at a certain time. Bungie says that you can't press these buttons or you are a cheater. How stupid does that sound?

  • 07.24.2007 12:12 PM PDT
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As many people know, the people at Bungie dont really play the game in MM. They know about these glitches (Obviously) and can do nothing about them w/o changing major areas of gameplay. Because they were not planned and they cannot do anything to stop them or the people that do them, they say it is against the rules to use in MM. LOL I still dont understand how it is cheating if, at any time, any player, can do the glitches.

  • 07.24.2007 12:26 PM PDT

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Same old played out argument that's been discussed to death and will never end. It's cheating in matchmaking. Just because you learned how to do it and someone else can't / won't doesn't make any difference. If I were to standby you and you got mad I'd just tell you to learn how to standby cause it's easy. The forum ninjas don't pay any attention to these threads because if they locked it 3 more would just replace it.

  • 07.24.2007 12:41 PM PDT
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Standbying is completely different. With BR glitches, any player can do them at any time. Whether you do it correctly is another thing. Its skill because you can screw it up. With Standbying, something you can actually be banned for, you need to have host for it to do anything. if every player in the game pressed the standbye button, they would all lag out.

  • 07.24.2007 12:50 PM PDT
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The arguement of "Anyone can do them at any time" doesn't fly. Anyone could do whatever they want, whenever they want. It was proven with bridging.

But heres the issue, the Button Glitches were an uninteded error in the game code. They are thus NOT part of the intended way to play, and Bungie want's the game played, atleast in MM, to be played the way they intended it to be played. Hell, read the Xbox Live Terms of Use, it even states that the exploitation of bugs (glitches) is cheating. It's cheating because it does give the use an unfair advantage that wasn't intended in the game. If you use the arguement that "anyone can do them" then you are also assuming that anyone WILL do them, or better yet, assuming that everyone DOES know about them, which simply isn't the case as not all Halo players visit the Bungie or any of the Halo websites. The only way to know about the glitches is to learn about them from a third party source, as odds are, the someone just magically discovering them on their own is highly unlikely. It isn't something most people will figure out on their own without any outside knowledge.

But once again, this is only the case in MM.

  • 07.24.2007 1:12 PM PDT

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