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Subject: UK Halo Players At A Disadvantage
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Poll: Bungie should fix the Host difference or not.  [closed]
Yes :  60%
(27 Votes)
No :  16%
(7 Votes)
Would cost to much. :  2%
(1 Votes)
So what they have made millions from the game.:  4%
(2 Votes)
Shut up!!!:  16%
(7 Votes)
Get some servers in the UK now. :  2%
(1 Votes)
Total Votes: 45

I have been playing Halo since it first came out, I absolutely love the game. The one thing that -blam!-s me off the the most is the fact that you have to suffer the problem with Host. Now if you live in America then there's no problem with the connection as you are only a few hundred miles away or next door to your neighbour who has Host on xboxlive. On the other hand or the other continent like the UK, Japan or Down under, it's so hard to play the game online because it's just constantly played on an American Host. I just want to get something clear though before an American tries to say am just a bad player or tries to make some bull-blam!- excuse about how there is no difference when Host comes into play or your internet speed is to slow, my net speed is so fast it runs constantly at 20 Meg Down and 2.5 Meg Up, I pay a lot of money for this connection and it makes no difference at all. Now when Halo 2 first came out in the UK there was a massive Tournament held by Warner Bro's Cinema and every major city in the UK held a four man FFA with over 1000 players per city now thats a lot of H2 players, I entered the Tournament and we got to play on cinema screens and I ranked 16 from the whole of the UK, some of you might think thats -blam!- but I think prety good.

My point is that there is a large difference when you have Host over a UK player because I have spent all the time in the world trying to shoot across lockout and hitting nothing but air when it should have been a four shot kill. There must be some way to fix this problem on bungie's side of the wall and I hope it is not the case for Halo 3. MUCH LOVE AND PEACE TO ALL THOSE TRUE PLAYERS OUT THERE. xNG Manga
http://www.nggames.co.uk/

[Edited on 07.24.2007 12:47 PM PDT]

  • 07.24.2007 12:40 PM PDT
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Now im going to count how many people are going to say their not going fix it because halo 3 is coming out.

[Edited on 07.24.2007 12:48 PM PDT]

  • 07.24.2007 12:41 PM PDT
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I feel the exact same my freind, I think that there is a major problem and it should be fixed. We are paying for the game so we should get full use of it, not some half assed rubish, I bet you any thing in the world that there will be a similar problem with H3.

  • 07.24.2007 12:52 PM PDT
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I take it it was an American that voted shut up, what a nob end.

  • 07.24.2007 12:55 PM PDT
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I guess so, just shows some peoples maturity on an improtant subject, whats -blam!- is that if it does not effect an american then they don't give a -blam!- about anyone else.

  • 07.24.2007 12:58 PM PDT
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Well know matter how hard you complain bungie can not do anythin about it. If you dont get host you dont get host.. Live with it. If you get host take it like a gift from god. USE IT. The only way they could fix it is get ALOT of dedicated servers which that would take a lot of work. So this thread is pretty much pointless sence complaining will get nowhere because every game has a HOST look at GOW.

  • 07.24.2007 1:03 PM PDT
Subject: UK Halo Players At A Disadvantage
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What do you have against americans?

  • 07.24.2007 1:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: Wrecktified
Now im going to count how many people are going to say their not going fix it because halo 3 is coming out.


too true with Halo 3 comming out why would they want to fix a soon to be 2nd rate game, comon everyone i know that loves halo is getting or got a 360 just so they can play Halo 3, hmm that makes them and myself sound kinda sad, i dont care im here to live (in this case on xbox live)

  • 07.24.2007 1:06 PM PDT
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This is a terrible predicament for those "left behind" by Microsoft, and I have the sneaking suspicion that what has been done to remedy the issue will not be enough.

Somewhere on this site, there is an explanation by of host advantages, and it was basically said that it would be too difficult to solve it otherwise and too expensive to buy servers.

I detest lag, even though it is not too usual since I have a decent connection and live in the U.S.

It is clear that there will be no simple solution to this issue.

[Edited on 07.24.2007 1:24 PM PDT]

  • 07.24.2007 1:23 PM PDT
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they really cant do much about it. even with dedicated servers, some people would have a better connection to the "host" than you

  • 07.24.2007 1:26 PM PDT
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I voted shut up. There is very liitlle that can be done avout host. In Halo 3 host is barely noticed. Also learn how to deal with Host. And I dare you to face me head to head so we can find out who the true nob really is.

  • 07.24.2007 1:31 PM PDT

halo 2 is a last gen game so expect last gen stuff like that from the game. i live in the uk and i experience the same problems, except worse cos i livein cornwall, EG, my BR doesnt work at all over 10 meters, beatdowns and assassinations dont work even with the sword, shotgun doesnt work most of the time,stickies tend to go straight through people etc etc. halo 3 was soooo much better, i saw no difference between myself and americans, all of my stickies with brute and plasma actually stuck ( once had one with a random grenade i through from high ground bunker all the way to the bottom of the beach) and everything was just better. also halo 3 is coming out soon so they dont want to go back to halo 2 :P

  • 07.24.2007 1:35 PM PDT

Posted by: xElite321x
I voted shut up. There is very liitlle that can be done avout host. In Halo 3 host is barely noticed. Also learn how to deal with Host. And I dare you to face me head to head so we can find out who the true nob really is.


let me guess, you as host? yea i thought so point proven ( you would be host even if you didnt want to be cos u probz is american)

  • 07.24.2007 1:37 PM PDT
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i was talkin bout a neutral host dumba**. And being american is better than being a bloody brit. Go eat some more tea and crumpets and STFU.

  • 07.24.2007 1:41 PM PDT
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You are the average dumbass that talks smack in a game when you clearly have host over someone else, you want to play me then thats fine, but in actual fact it would mean nothing and prove very little, I trust me kid i realy don't care who is better than the next person I just care about the problem at hand. If you want to come onto a forum and start posting stuff like "Dare face me Head to Head" when it has nothing to do with being better than the next person and it's all about fair gaming then I would be happy to play you. Just remember the closest person to the host has a better connection so in fact the game would not be fair. Think before you speak your mind, at least know what your talking about.

  • 07.24.2007 1:57 PM PDT

There was a man from Allentown who fed his son to death.
He calmly watched him gorge himself until his final breath.
And there he stood, surprised and shocked above his tiny frame.
He said: "I bear no blame for this. I only share his name!"

They probably should fix it, but they won't as it will take up too many resources I would think. I don't know much about that stuff, but that's my best guess.

  • 07.24.2007 2:07 PM PDT

Posted by: xElite321x
i was talkin bout a neutral host dumba**. And being american is better than being a bloody brit. Go eat some more tea and crumpets and STFU.


neutral host? theres no such thing online and thats what this thread is all about, unless your coming over here and doing it on LAN since its your challange,

the phrase is drinking tea and eating scones although i live in cornwall which is hardly what you think the average british person is, also i dont drink tea or eat scones or crumpets

on a final note tell me how america is so much a better place than britain. i am fed up of americans telling me how much they 'own' me cos they either have relied on host, noob combo, power weapons or glitches (host includes host shotgun and everything that goes with it), on halo 3 all those things that make the game cheap are balanced with everything else making it the much better game it is going to be (judging on the beta alone)

  • 07.24.2007 2:20 PM PDT

I wouldn't do that, Dave...

I agree, host advantage is a huge problem, but I think you are overstating when you argue that Americans don't have the same problem. I've been playing since the early days also, and once you reach a certain skill level (around 30 or so), host advantage can really help decide a game (especially on mid to large maps where BR's are involved). Most guys who argue otherwise probably host alot. Truthfully, we ALL experience the disadvantage. I live in the Bay Area, CA, but my cable connection is mediocre at best, and I rarely grab host. Meanwhile, many of the games I play find me pitted against players (and often teams) with near perfect connections (full green status bars). Being able to drop someone with 4 body shots as opposed to emptying a clip on their dome is a huge advantage. Sometimes if I mention host advantage, the other team scoffs. To prove my point, however, I'll challenge them to a custom game on my connection, on a map of thier choice. I have yet to lose a re-match.

  • 07.24.2007 3:22 PM PDT
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Well sick of everyone being against Americans. All you people have had how many encounters with them and you say there all bad? You probably havent even met 100. Theres about 300,000,000 of us. So you think its fair to judge us on a couple people? Quit whining about not having host too. Thats not our problem. Its not the American Halo 2 players' fault our connections are better than yours.

  • 07.24.2007 4:56 PM PDT

Why the hell are you looking at this? Get out.

And no group invites, you jerk. I'm not interested.

Ah the bliss of ignorance.

Yeah, they fixed that. They called it Halo 3.

  • 07.24.2007 4:58 PM PDT
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This is turning into a racist thread. I am American and I agree with all the UK members who would like a server in the UK. You are right, it is not fair and you are paying for it. There is no need to bring Americans into this.

  • 07.24.2007 5:09 PM PDT

If it were easy to fix these common network problems (lagg, Host advantage etc.). They wouldn't exist. A real solution would come from extreme speed networking with data packets literally traveling the speed of light. Until we have that technology the best we can do is alleviate the problem with good net-coding.

Find some people in your area to play with/against thats the best you can do.

  • 07.24.2007 5:45 PM PDT
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a neutral host is when a third person host's a custom game starts it hides and then the 2 other people join his game. I was a tiny bit out of line with the tea and crumpets line, but i was also in the right. Every game i play with a british guy on live im like hey, wht's up. And there response is go eat some more cheeseburgers and sleep with your sister you american b*stard.Which pisses me off and is the main reason why i said that. Halo 3 wil be a much more fair game. When you say americans only go for those weapons you are lying massively. Everyone goes for that stuff. You win the game through teammwork and controlling the power weapons/pickups. As far as host issues I have played against many british people in Halo 2 who have recieved host during matchmaking. It was not a good host but it was their host none the less.

  • 07.24.2007 5:57 PM PDT

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