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Subject: For those who whine about MLG...

MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK...
Posted by: Langley
--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.

Posted by: Achronos
There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.

Posted by: MLG PulseR
First of all, thank you for being the first person to compose a remotely readable and intelligent post. While I have to say that all of your arguments are completely hollow in my opinion, I would at least like to give you credit for posting something well-written and intelligently thought out.

As for "button glitching" being considered "cheating" by Bungie, I have two responses for that.
1.) Honestly, I don't give a damn what Bungie consideres "cheating." I play by the MLG rulebook, and that's it. I consider Superbouncing cheating, but many people do not. However, according to MLG it is.
2.) I don't need "button glitches" to be good. I use button glitches frequently, but if they didn't exist, I would still be able to out-skill and out-think the majority of casual players who play Matchmaking.


Good, stop using them then. If you are that superior of a player, you shouldn't need them. If your team is that good, they shouldn't need them. And as to your first "point". That attitude is what I'm talking about. You think that your "organization's" opinion is better than the company who created the game. You think that the way you play the game is superior than how others do. That's egotistical and asinine. You may think that my points are "completely hollow" but you can't refute them now can you? Nice try at an ad hominem though.

~B.B.

  • 07.26.2007 4:05 PM PDT

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Worst idea ever...http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=8664824

Wow, you just made yourself look like a MAJOR jackass. Congrats.

  • 07.26.2007 4:07 PM PDT

This unit may wreck, or explode at any moment.

What do you expect from a guy who is Ksi and Mlg? That right there is a double shot of dumbass

[Edited on 07.26.2007 4:08 PM PDT]

  • 07.26.2007 4:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: BerserkerBarage
MLG takes out weapons that they see as being less skillful.

Thats not why. Besides, Dual wieldable weapons can be found in certain gametypes such as FFA and any game on Sanctuary. They settled on No Duals for most maps because the Plasma Pistol was way to powerful (agreed?). No Duals also eliminated useless weapons like the Needler. If you watch some old MLG gameplays, from before the No Duals era, you will see all the pros Dualing an SMG and PR whenever they are at snipe tower or similar areas.

They sacrificed variety for equality and, in their eyes, balance.

[Edited on 07.26.2007 4:10 PM PDT]

  • 07.26.2007 4:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: I SacramenT I
Posted by: BerserkerBarage
MLG takes out weapons that they see as being less skillful.

Thats not why. Besides, Dual wieldable weapons can be found in certain gametypes such as FFA and any game on Sanctuary. They settled on No Duals for most maps because the Plasma Pistol was way to powerful (agreed?). No Duals also eliminated useless weapons like the Needler. If you watch some old MLG gameplay, from before the No Duals era, you see all the pros Dualing and SMG and PR whenever they are at snipe tower.

They sacrificed variety for equality and, in their eyes, balance.


actually, a battle can be dramatically changed by a dual wieldable weapon. Example, two guys meet up, both armed with one SMG, both are firing, and one of them just so happens to be closer to another dual weapon, picks it up and the battle becomes unbalanced. also, it takes away the three rules bungie based the game upon, firing, grenades, and melee. that's another reason you don't see duals in MLG.

[Edited on 07.26.2007 4:14 PM PDT]

  • 07.26.2007 4:14 PM PDT

MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK...
Posted by: Langley
--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.

Posted by: Achronos
There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.

Posted by: mongoliancluster
[...] That right there is a double shot of dumbass


Straight-up with a twist.

~B.B.

  • 07.26.2007 4:17 PM PDT
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I like twists!

  • 07.26.2007 4:19 PM PDT

MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK...
Posted by: Langley
--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.

Posted by: Achronos
There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.

Posted by: I SacramenT I
Posted by: BerserkerBarage
MLG takes out weapons that they see as being less skillful.

Thats not why. Besides, Dual wieldable weapons can be found in certain gametypes such as FFA and any game on Sanctuary. They settled on No Duals for most maps because the Plasma Pistol was way to powerful (agreed?). No Duals also eliminated useless weapons like the Needler. If you watch some old MLG gameplays, from before the No Duals era, you will see all the pros Dualing an SMG and PR whenever they are at snipe tower or similar areas.

They sacrificed variety for equality and, in their eyes, balance.


I sit correct and I agree about the PP. However, if you would ask (and I know that's a bad fallacy) the majority of MLG players why "no duals" they would have replied in the fashion that I did: because they feel they are "less skillful". Other than the PP, I see no problem with using dual weaponry.

Oh, and whoever talked about the 3 "pillars" of Halo: G,G,M...you do realize that you can both throw grenades and melee when carrying a dual wield. You simply drop the weapon and need to pick it back up. Most of the time I can do it seamlessly anyways.

~B.B.

  • 07.26.2007 4:25 PM PDT

MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK...
Posted by: Langley
--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.

Posted by: Achronos
There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.

Posted by: XV22 Lone Wolf
I like twists!


Verbal Kent IS Kaiser Soze!!

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  • 07.26.2007 4:26 PM PDT
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but dropping the weapon can can seen as that it takes too long for some people.

  • 07.26.2007 4:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Th3 Flipst3r
A Kindergarden Teacher asks three kids what they want to do when they grow up.

Teacher: Ok chewbacca what do you want to be when you grow up?
chewbacca: an insurance agent
Teacher: Thats interesting, what to you want to do when you grow up artichoke?
artichoke: a lawyer
Teacher: Very cool! What do you want to be geek$hit?
geek$hit: a professional video gamer!
(silence)
Teacher: wtf? (pulls out a knife and slits his throat for being such a lame ass)


what the hell would chewbacca find in law agency? if i were him, i'd rip the teacher's limbs right out of his/her sockets for asking a stupid question.

[Edited on 07.26.2007 4:29 PM PDT]

  • 07.26.2007 4:29 PM PDT

Posted by: ChrI0n12
no im not cause if you have to play video games to earn money instead of getting a real job i find that you are pathetic

Why would you not play video games for money? It's easier than an actual job.

Good Post. Too bad people here are too arrogant.

[Edited on 07.26.2007 4:34 PM PDT]

  • 07.26.2007 4:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: OG Fastforward
Posted by: ChrI0n12
no im not cause if you have to play video games to earn money instead of getting a real job i find that you are pathetic

Why would you not play video games for money? It's easier than an actual job.

Good Post. Too bad people here are too arrogant.


Preach brother! Preach! I SAID PREACH!!! lol

  • 07.26.2007 4:36 PM PDT

MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK...
Posted by: Langley
--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.

Posted by: Achronos
There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.

I could write long-winded posts why sociologically and psychologically playing video games =/= a profession, and definitely not a long-term profession...but why bother. I type up a long response to the OP, he can't debate it, so why bother again?

~B.B.

  • 07.26.2007 4:39 PM PDT

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Posted by: MLG PulseR
One more thing... people on these Bungie.net forums seem to lump "Button Glitchers," "Superbouncers," "Standby'ers," and "Boosters" all into one category of "cheaters." To even compare using button glitches to superbouncing or standbying is a complete joke. Honestly, duel-wielding is more unfair than using button glitches.
Pulser
So if I were to create a modded handset so that My BR constantly fired RRXYRRX... that wouldn't be cheating? It doesn't matter how you do it, having an unfair advantage over other players is cheating. Life isn't black and white, this is a game and I treat it so, rules are laid down by the creator of this game and they should be abided by because it is their game, not yours. Live with it, you cheat, you can't play fair for fear that you might lose to another human being on no more than a few 0's and 1's, how sad are you?

[Edited on 07.26.2007 4:45 PM PDT]

  • 07.26.2007 4:43 PM PDT

The bible is the best book Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM A PROUD CHRISTIAN. HALO IS AWESOME BUT GOD IS MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!
Did you knew that JESUSdied for you?

I agree wuth alll but glitches part glitches are cheating on mactmaking I hate "pros" that cheat thinking they are "good"

I also think some pros are a fraud But NOT ALL FOR EAMPLE i ADMIRE KARMA

  • 07.26.2007 4:46 PM PDT
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The only problem I have with MLG is the fact that you take a video game, and turn it into a job. This is why I would never test or play games for a living; if you have fun doing something, and you turn it into a job, it will get old. As Pulser demonstrates, the game is taken way too seriously. If someone wants to take something they enjoy and turn it into a job, good for them; their job is not contributing to society whatsoever, only making them feel better because they are some of the best Halo 2 players. It's just a game, folks, I think that message needs to be distributed more.

On button glitches; I don't agree they are as bad as standby-ing or superbouncing. I don't even see it as cheating, even though I don't like them. I view it as a mistake bungie made, and I don't understand why they are still in the game; unless it's a technical problem. But, with Halo 3 only 2 months away, button glitching doesn't bother me so much.

  • 07.26.2007 4:48 PM PDT
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mlg pulser ur a joke

  • 07.26.2007 4:53 PM PDT

Greatest of all time

Dear B.B,

As another hater of MLG i would like to congratulate you on your awesome argument. Couldn't have put it better myself. You just put the whole MLG community in its place, good job. To bad the OP can't make an argument against, it would have been funny to read.


A fellow hater, Nickyfour92

PS. a link to this ownage will be put into my sig so all the MLG lovers can read and cry.

[Edited on 07.26.2007 4:56 PM PDT]

  • 07.26.2007 4:55 PM PDT

MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK...
Posted by: Langley
--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.

Posted by: Achronos
There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.

Posted by: Clakion117
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On button glitches; I don't agree they are as bad as standby-ing or superbouncing. I don't even see it as cheating, even though I don't like them. I view it as a mistake bungie made, and I don't understand why they are still in the game; unless it's a technical problem. But, with Halo 3 only 2 months away, button glitching doesn't bother me so much.


To answer this question is because the glitches, either physics or animation lie in systems that are too foundational to adequately change without fear of messing with other aspects of the game. Obviously with something like superjumps, the problem lies deep within the use of the Havok physics engine, not something easily messed with. And since all weapons have different reload animations, to effectively change animation glitches would require the redoing of those animations and how they relate to say melee animations as well. That would be one hell of a patch. And to think that something like that could be accomplished in a orderly time-table while controlling all other factors without creating problems worse than the current glitches would be problematic.

For example, the reason why BXR and BXB are so popular is because of the patch that increased the damage of melee attacks from how Halo 2 shipped. Bungie wanted to address the problem of "weak melees" but by releasing that patch essentially created the venue for people to exploit button glitches.

Quite the "Butterfly Effect" of chaos theory in motion...

~B.B.

  • 07.26.2007 4:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: BerserkerBarage
Ask the majority of MLG players why "no duals" they would have replied in the fashion that I did: because they feel they are "less skillful".

7ru7h. In reality, unfortunately, a random MLG player online will be a total dick 75% of the time. Sucks for people like me that love MLG games but also like MM. Oh well.

  • 07.26.2007 4:59 PM PDT

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