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I just want to point out that while many people create threads that are just spam, its not like every single person that replies is also posting spam, recently i was banned because i replied by telling the original poster to delete his post and reminded every future reader of the post to not reply so it can get deleted, i in no way contributed to the spam, so i'm just requesting that the mods be smarter about who they ban in the future, i was very agitated by their actions and i know others who have encountered this problem, thanks

  • 07.28.2007 8:34 AM PDT
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You bumped the spam to the top of the forum page so you did actually contribute to the spam. It's best to ignore and report.

  • 07.28.2007 8:35 AM PDT

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Posted by: Rooster Boost
I just want to point out that while many people create threads that are just spam, its not like every single person that replies is also posting spam, recently i was banned because i replied by telling the original poster to delete his post and reminded every future reader of the post to not reply so it can get deleted, i in no way contributed to the spam, so i'm just requesting that the mods be smarter about who they ban in the future, i was very agitated by their actions and i know others who have encountered this problem, thanks
Okay, first think about this. You aren't a mod and the current mods know what they are doing. They are given the position for a reason and that is because they aren't idiots (except for stosh maybe) but they are all trusted and know what they are doing. They blacklist members when needed and if someone hasn't been BLed and you think he/she should be blacklisted, send a mod a PM and tell him/her (can't forget about DON WAN) the name of the user and why you think he/she should be blacklisted. Simple.

  • 07.28.2007 8:40 AM PDT

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Posted by: Captain K Mart
You bumped the spam to the top of the forum page so you did actually contribute to the spam. It's best to ignore and report.


sorry i didn't include that the spam that i replied to was brand new and i was the first replier, it was second from the top, i just wish the mods would ban the people that reply with more spam or an irrelevant post instead of the people trying to get it to stop

  • 07.28.2007 8:41 AM PDT
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Posted by: Rooster Boost
the people trying to get it to stop

The best way to do that isn't to reply to the spam, it's to ignore it. No one is going to listen to a post telling them to not reply to spam. They will however, learn to not reply to spam in the future after getting banned for doing just that.

  • 07.28.2007 8:49 AM PDT

It's not a matter of your intent. It's a matter of your actions. You replied to spam. End of story. What you should have done was PM a ninja a link to the thread so it could be handled appropriately.

  • 07.28.2007 8:49 AM PDT

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There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.

If you know a thread is obviously spam, don't even give them the satisfaction of responding to it. Same thing with obvious "trolling" threads. Responding to them just gives the topic creator what his parents refused to give them, but their priest would: hands on attention.

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  • 07.28.2007 8:52 AM PDT

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If you want the spam to stop, we need people to report it. Contributing to a bad thread or post simply does not help in any way and there really ought not to be so many people replying with "in before the lock" or "banned!"

I know at times it's tempting, but there are honestly much better threads you can post in out there.

  • 07.28.2007 8:54 AM PDT
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  • 07.28.2007 10:39 AM PDT
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It seems like I see a problem:


* Do NOT reply to spam.
* You may (and in some cases, should) tell new posters what they may have done wrong, but do so politely. Don't EVER flame.


I'm guessing that the first and second rules here aren't related to each other, but it seems like a lot of people try to quickly reply to spam in the instance of the second rule, and to mention that no one should reply to the spam. I have done this in certain instances when spam was already at the top of the page, but I regret it because it doesn't help anything. People still reply to the spam.
So those posts - the "helpful" replies to spam - do nothing.
I've sympathized for a lot of people who have gotten blacklisted, without any warnings, for trying to be helpful in a spam topic, which generally would include posting in the topic to tell others to stop and reporting the topic.
This rule makes it a little easier though. You have to remember that no matter what your intentions were, you'll still get blacklisted.

If the person clearly is new but is unaware that what he's doing is against the rules, I'd suggest a PM. The two rules I quoted generally don't mix. You can tell the difference between someone who is new and someone who is spamming. The latter case does not need to be told why, because they won't change anything.

So now that this new rule is implemented, I'd just stay away from spam at all costs.

[Edited on 07.28.2007 11:02 AM PDT]

  • 07.28.2007 11:02 AM PDT
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I think theyre doing an overall good job, theres always going to be some inconsistency but thats expected since theres more than one of them. The only thing i got a problem with so for is the collective ban of every member from a certain chapter for posting in one particular thread.

[Edited on 07.28.2007 11:29 AM PDT]

  • 07.28.2007 11:02 AM PDT

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  • 07.28.2007 11:18 AM PDT

Posted by: Rooster Boost
I just want to point out that while many people create threads that are just spam, its not like every single person that replies is also posting spam, recently i was banned because i replied by telling the original poster to delete his post and reminded every future reader of the post to not reply so it can get deleted, i in no way contributed to the spam, so i'm just requesting that the mods be smarter about who they ban in the future, i was very agitated by their actions and i know others who have encountered this problem, thanks


While your intentions were good Rooster, it does absolutely no good to tell a spammer or anyone else for that matter what the rules are. This goes back to the often resurrected "forum cop" debate. B.net members do not like other members telling them what to do, period. It's like being a hall monitor, and we all know that no one ever listened to or respected the hall monitor.

Leave the moderating to the mods. Two words.........ignore........report.

  • 07.28.2007 12:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: Rooster Boost
its not like every single person that replies is also posting spam

Ummm yes it is.

Posted by: Rooster Boost
i in no way contributed to the spam

Ummm yes you did.

Posted by: Rooster Boost
i was very agitated by their actions

We get kind of agitated too when people reply to spam threads and force real discussions down the tubes.

I'm with Jim on punishments here (except it used to be 7 days for "in before the lock" posts until the new 3 day ban).

  • 07.28.2007 3:19 PM PDT

Posted by: thebrutenextdoor
Some spam threads in the halo 3 forum would probably have gone unnoticed for 3 or more pages if i hadn't helped out a bit. What people need to do is stop posting in spam threads and report them. Try asking for messenger contact info. some of the mods have that info readily available to you. You just need to know where to look. All posting does is bump the thread, and give the spammer the satisfaction they seek. We can all do our part, and make these forums a better place. Bungie.net doesn't need more moderators. They have a good team in place already. We need to stop giving them a hard time.


*quotes self*

I get very annoyed when i see people post in a spam topic, and they're not contributing anything good. So i think they should be made an example of what happens if you do it at all. I feel the moderators should be a little more strict about it in any case because people should know already not to do it, and there is no excuse.

  • 07.28.2007 5:32 PM PDT

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Jim why don't you just blacklisted them all together?

People have to read the rules and I admit I do it occasionally posting "inbeforelock".

Its just immature nonsense.

  • 07.28.2007 6:06 PM PDT

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"I have no words that would do justice to the atrocities you commit to the English language, as well as your continued assaults on the concepts of basic literacy and logical reasoning."

Spam is just 1 one post. But when you reply to spam, you make it worse. You can't delete your own posts here, and by replying, you bump the thread back to the top of the threads. There is absolutely NO point to replying to a spam post - in doing so, you are making the problem worse.

The mod who banned you was doing EXACTLY the right thing. You deserved what you got, and if you do it again, you will be banned.
Posted by: Rooster Boost
I just want to point out that while many people create threads that are just spam, its not like every single person that replies is also posting spam, recently i was banned because i replied by telling the original poster to delete his post and reminded every future reader of the post to not reply so it can get deleted, i in no way contributed to the spam, so i'm just requesting that the mods be smarter about who they ban in the future, i was very agitated by their actions and i know others who have encountered this problem, thanks

  • 07.28.2007 7:08 PM PDT

Tom Achronos
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"I have no words that would do justice to the atrocities you commit to the English language, as well as your continued assaults on the concepts of basic literacy and logical reasoning."

Seems like they did ban the people posting more spam in response to a spam post... i.e., you.

Posted by: Rooster Boost
sorry i didn't include that the spam that i replied to was brand new and i was the first replier, it was second from the top, i just wish the mods would ban the people that reply with more spam or an irrelevant post instead of the people trying to get it to stop

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Quick, someone ban Achronos! He posted twice! ;-)

  • 07.28.2007 8:03 PM PDT

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...send a mod a PM and tell him/her (can't forget about DON WAN) the name of the user and why you think he/she should be blacklisted. Simple.

Kari's a mod now?!?!
Anyways. Posting in a thread that is spam, no matter what your message says, is contributing to spam.

  • 07.28.2007 8:17 PM PDT
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Achronos can't even follow the rules .

  • 07.28.2007 8:20 PM PDT

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Achronos can't even follow the rules .

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Quick, someone ban Achronos! He posted twice! ;-)


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  • 07.28.2007 8:25 PM PDT

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Kari's a mod now?!?!

Stay up to date on things, silly. She even gets free sammiches now!

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I've been banned once for replying to a troll with a "People, don't reply to this guy.." Lesson learned. It clearly does bump spammy topics back to the top, and no one wants spam on top of anything.

  • 07.28.2007 8:32 PM PDT

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