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Subject: Why buy vista when you can buy a 360 in stead?

Posted by: No Refunds
Here's my response to you, I'll try to make it so you can understand:
wut ?

you spelled
what wrong

  • 07.30.2007 9:45 PM PDT

Posted by: Duardo
I'd love to be a 10 year old and tell my mom I'm going on an adventure out into the world catching Pokemon, with her full support. Never mind the fact that there are rapists, criminals, and murders out there, or the fact that I may get killed by a Pokemon.

Luckily I have Pikachu.

While Halo 2 for the Xbox has a better Online network, it has lots of problems on the Xbox 360 that the Vista version of the game doesn't have.

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Posted by: kool guy yeah
Posted by: No Refunds
Here's my response to you, I'll try to make it so you can understand:
wut ?

you spelled
what wrong

ure evin stupider then I thout. do u understand?

  • 07.30.2007 11:18 PM PDT

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Their was a time when this was under a post. Simpler times; no Halo 3 Forum and no search. Simpler times. Happy about search though.

Get both fun times.
Reasons: 360=Halo 3 DX9.5
PC=Crysis DX10



Don't forget your bankruptcy papers when you get both a 360 and the PC.

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Posted by: kool guy yeah
now to answer kim

1. i know that gow no crysis and halo are all going to converted to pc by a using the compiler code!


I don't think GOW is going to be ported from console to PC, I have heard it has massive improvements over the console including major graphic updates, not to mention that the developers said that it WOULD eventually be on PC (Unlike what they said about BOTH Halo 1-2) so I think its going to be made for the PC not ported. And what are you talking about Crysis being converted to PC, it hasn't even touched the console (that I'm aware of) and it never will, the graphics in that game will make the XBOX 360 graphics card run away and cry. Crysis is the next generation of gaming, it goes beyond even Halo 3, I would be very surprised to see it on the XBOX 360.

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games consoles are better for gaming than PC.

buying an xbox 360 for example i spend £280, if i want a PC that can play the latest games i have to spend close to £1000.

with a console i get 3 - 5 years of kickass games withought have to worry about upgrading anything, with a top spec PC you will mabye get about 2 or 3 before i have to worry about getting a new graphics card ect

as far as the keybord and mouse vs joypad argument, mabye you get more aim help with a joypad but a jopad can move around and jump around way better then a keyboard and mouse.

plus i cant BXR u with a keyboard

the only good thing about PC gaming is that if your video card gets fried then i can buy a new part, not wait 3 mounts for it to be repaired

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Posted by: inowereulive10
games consoles are better for gaming than PC.

Wrong. Just because the majority of the market is in consoles does not equate better quality. The majority of s*** titles come out onto the console; refined console games are usually ported and, most of the time, only quality games are developed for the PC.

Posted by:inowereulive10
buying an xbox 360 for example i spend £280, if i want a PC that can play the latest games i have to spend close to £1000.

Yeah, right off the bat. That will then last you 2 - 3 years, after which you will then need to upgrade if you truly want to play the newest game alive. Even then upgrading to a better video card will cost you about 300 US/218 Euro, which will then set you for another 2 - 3 years. In the long run, you're still looking at costs versus buying a whole new system, new controllers, new games, and being stuck with doing little with a console--or upgrading every two or three years to not only harness gaming potential, but modding, surfing the web, and what ever other poison you'd like to perform with your PC.

PCs are expensive because they serve more than one purpose, unlike a console. It's logical. And if you aren't able to save up 300 US/218 Euro in two to three years...well, you need to rethink your savings plan then.

Posted by:inowereulive10
with a console i get 3 - 5 years of kickass games withought have to worry about upgrading anything, with a top spec PC you will mabye get about 2 or 3 before i have to worry about getting a new graphics card ect

All it is is trade off. There is only so much a console game can offer. In the end its not like you can mod the hell out of it to maximize potential. Take, for instance, Oblivion PC vs. Oblivion Xbox (and soon Oblivion PS3). For the Xbox version, you're limited to only being able to download the mods Bethseda has to offer, and even then you have to pay for them. On the PC, we have a data base that houses over 7,850 mods for Oblivion. I currently have over 100 mods installed for Oblivion, and all of them were for free. Also, not only were they free, but the game is completely different. It's actually good now. The playing experience is completely different.

So, as I said, trade off. With the PC you are bound to have endless options when it comes to the end game of a game. On a console though? You just go out and buy another, beat it in a week or two, and repeat the process. I'm still getting my fill from Half-Life 2, Doom 3, Oblivion, and Neverwinter Nights due to the custom ability offered not only in mods, but in their toolsets as well. The console has what, Tony Hawk Pro Skater for custom ability? There's innovation for you.

Posted by:inowereulive10
as far as the keybord and mouse vs joypad argument, mabye you get more aim help with a joypad but a jopad can move around and jump around way better then a keyboard and mouse.

That doesn't even make any sense. If aim is equated to moving around, then how the hell does a console controller have better movement? Also, how the hell does a console controller jump better? It's a buttton you push. You press jump. You jump. Oooh, big feat accomplished.

What you were looking for is how fluid and precise movement is with a mouse and keyboard combined, compared to a console controller and its analog control sticks that fly left or right when you nudge them, offering little control to kb+m users who are used to high sensitivity. Then again, with a kb+m, we aren't exactly getting our PC games filled with auto aim and bullet magnetism, now are we?

Posted by:inowereulive10
plus i cant BXR u with a keyboard

This is a bad thing?

Posted by:inowereulive10
the only good thing about PC gaming is that if your video card gets fried then i can buy a new part, not wait 3 mounts for it to be repaired

Read my previous points. The PC platform thrives with FPS, MMO, and RTS. We have everything else as well, though people would like to tell you Adventure, Racing, and Fighters work better on consoles. Adventure games are long since dead and have been an added element in FPS games and Racing and Fighters still truly thrive in the arcade. You can still do plenty of Racing games on the PC as well; not to mention you can just go out and simply buy a steering wheel/peddle controller to plug-n-play.

Let's not forget how our online play is also FREE and is not subjugated to go through corporate greed.

  • 07.31.2007 5:43 AM PDT

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  • 07.31.2007 5:51 AM PDT
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360>Vista?
Well, it gets less blue screens :P

  • 07.31.2007 5:58 AM PDT

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360>Vista?
Well, it gets less blue screens :P


And Vista doesnt get The Ring of Death very offten.

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My 360 got the RROD last night. So I restarted it and it worked fine. I don't know what's up with that, but as long as it's still kickin...

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Posted by: inowereulive10
games consoles are better for gaming than PC.

Wrong. Just because the majority of the market is in consoles does not equate better quality. The majority of s*** titles come out onto the console; refined console games are usually ported and, most of the time, only quality games are developed for the PC.

Posted by:inowereulive10
buying an xbox 360 for example i spend £280, if i want a PC that can play the latest games i have to spend close to £1000.

Yeah, right off the bat. That will then last you 2 - 3 years, after which you will then need to upgrade if you truly want to play the newest game alive. Even then upgrading to a better video card will cost you about 300 US/218 Euro, which will then set you for another 2 - 3 years. In the long run, you're still looking at costs versus buying a whole new system, new controllers, new games, and being stuck with doing little with a console--or upgrading every two or three years to not only harness gaming potential, but modding, surfing the web, and what ever other poison you'd like to perform with your PC.

PCs are expensive because they serve more than one purpose, unlike a console. It's logical. And if you aren't able to save up 300 US/218 Euro in two to three years...well, you need to rethink your savings plan then.

Posted by:inowereulive10
with a console i get 3 - 5 years of kickass games withought have to worry about upgrading anything, with a top spec PC you will mabye get about 2 or 3 before i have to worry about getting a new graphics card ect

All it is is trade off. There is only so much a console game can offer. In the end its not like you can mod the hell out of it to maximize potential. Take, for instance, Oblivion PC vs. Oblivion Xbox (and soon Oblivion PS3). For the Xbox version, you're limited to only being able to download the mods Bethseda has to offer, and even then you have to pay for them. On the PC, we have a data base that houses over 7,850 mods for Oblivion. I currently have over 100 mods installed for Oblivion, and all of them were for free. Also, not only were they free, but the game is completely different. It's actually good now. The playing experience is completely different.

So, as I said, trade off. With the PC you are bound to have endless options when it comes to the end game of a game. On a console though? You just go out and buy another, beat it in a week or two, and repeat the process. I'm still getting my fill from Half-Life 2, Doom 3, Oblivion, and Neverwinter Nights due to the custom ability offered not only in mods, but in their toolsets as well. The console has what, Tony Hawk Pro Skater for custom ability? There's innovation for you.

Posted by:inowereulive10
as far as the keybord and mouse vs joypad argument, mabye you get more aim help with a joypad but a jopad can move around and jump around way better then a keyboard and mouse.

That doesn't even make any sense. If aim is equated to moving around, then how the hell does a console controller have better movement? Also, how the hell does a console controller jump better? It's a buttton you push. You press jump. You jump. Oooh, big feat accomplished.

What you were looking for is how fluid and precise movement is with a mouse and keyboard combined, compared to a console controller and its analog control sticks that fly left or right when you nudge them, offering little control to kb+m users who are used to high sensitivity. Then again, with a kb+m, we aren't exactly getting our PC games filled with auto aim and bullet magnetism, now are we?

Posted by:inowereulive10
plus i cant BXR u with a keyboard

This is a bad thing?

Posted by:inowereulive10
the only good thing about PC gaming is that if your video card gets fried then i can buy a new part, not wait 3 mounts for it to be repaired

Read my previous points. The PC platform thrives with FPS, MMO, and RTS. We have everything else as well, though people would like to tell you Adventure, Racing, and Fighters work better on consoles. Adventure games are long since dead and have been an added element in FPS games and Racing and Fighters still truly thrive in the arcade. You can still do plenty of Racing games on the PC as well; not to mention you can just go out and simply buy a steering wheel/peddle controller to plug-n-play.

Let's not forget how our online play is also FREE and is not subjugated to go through corporate greed.


Not a bad speech :-). I totally love racing games (well the challenging ones), and theres one racing game that completely annihilates every other racing game out there, both through uniqueness, skillness required, low system requirements and mad ass graphics, and that is Trackmania Nations and Trackmania United. Something you can't get on the console because its simply to good for it :-).

Other than that, read the guys post above.

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those are some good points but all the best games come out on consoles like halo and halo 2 and halo 3. its a shame that PC end up with "ports" which are no way as good.

plus about the cost thing it is more cost effective to buy a console because £280 is alot better than £1000 no matter how you look at it, if gaming is your first priority.

if people want to experience new HD games and such then its so much cheaper to get a xbox 360,

and you only have yo watch E3 2007 just to realise how far behind PC gaming realy is and how fast console gaming has beat PC gaming at every turn,

exept for modding............wooo


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  • 07.31.2007 7:19 AM PDT

Posted by: kool guy yeah
well why.

cause you'll never get the three lights of death with Vista.

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Vista is alot cheaper then a 360...I got a student edition of Home Premium for $60...you can get a student edition of any of I think. If you are wondering, it's the same OS just cheaper for students to afford.

For starters you can't do things such as video editing, or music creation on the 360...

Also on my Vista pc I will be able to play Gears of War, Halo 2, BioShock etc...

There are alot of things you can do with a pc that you sure as hell can't with a 360:
1) Pop in new Processor
2) Pop in new ram
3) Pop in new gfx card
4) Have multiple HDDs at once
5) Burn dvds
6) Create Applications
7) About a bagillion more...

Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
My 360 got the RROD last night. So I restarted it and it worked fine. I don't know what's up with that, but as long as it's still kickin...


I've had that happen to me plenty of times. Look up the number you receive on the screen. I always get mine when I hit the power button and then the dvd drive button too quickly after the power button was hit. The 360 sees the dvd drive as not responding then because it is trying to come out for me to put in media, so it gets the 3 Red Lights of Death...it all depends on the number you receive on the screen.

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if you can afford it, i would say go for vista. halo 3 will be coming for that in a few years, and gow is coming out. also, to get the best quality, if you can afford it, go for a fully-loaded Alienware Area 51-ALX, which is probably the best gaming (make that just the best) computer you can get. fully loaded, it will be pretty expensive, so start saving. if you cant afford all that, stick with the 360. theres nothing wrong with the 360, and its going on sale.

  • 07.31.2007 7:51 AM PDT

Why buy A when you can buy B instead?

Why buy B when you can buy A instead, is just as pertinent a question. You'll have to work a lot harder if you want to get to the bottom of the console vs PC gaming debate.

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Posted by: inowereulive10
those are some good points but all the best games come out on consoles like halo and halo 2 and halo 3.
Umm, Halo 1-2 are FAR from the best games. Half-Life 2 sold more copies than Halo1-2 put together (so I've read), not to mention it was the BEST game in the world for a good 3 years in a row. Half life 2 Episode one and the following episodes to be released are most likely going to be more popular than the halo series. I'm not saying Halo isn't popular, it just doesn't compete with some of the most popular PC games.

Posted by: inowereulive10
its a shame that PC end up with "ports" which are no way as good.
Not all ports are bad. Halo was a very good port if you compare it to halo 2. I have experience absolutely no problems with Halo PC, and with the shader model 2 mod and active camo mod (for Nvidia gfx cards) it makes the game visually superior to the XBOX Halo, and the gameplay is very much the same. Also I believe Chronicale of Riddkick was a port, and it worked flawlessly on my PC, and for what I have been hearing about GOW, it's going to be superior to the console version, and that came from the developers themselves.

Posted by: inowereulive10
plus about the cost thing it is more cost effective to buy a console because £280 is alot better than £1000 no matter how you look at it, if gaming is your first priority.
That all depends, with DX10 coming out, consoles are limited to what games they can now play, whereas PC users can experience the new titles and new gameplay. Console users will have to wait a few years before they can get that enjoyment.

Posted by: inowereulive10
if people want to experience new HD games and such then its so much cheaper to get a xbox 360,
Your an idiot, HD may be new to consoles, but it has been in the PC world for many years. PC users have been experiencing HD long before the XBOX 360 even came out. So you can enjoy your new HD experience, cause its old to us.

Posted by: inowereulive10
and you only have yo watch E3 2007 just to realise how far behind PC gaming realy is and how fast console gaming has beat PC gaming at every turn,
Your a retard for saying that. PC's are like 5 years ahead of consoles. Not only do todays PC's have 5 times the amount of processing power than what the XBOX 360 does, they can handle the latest games at the most absolutely highest graphics details which is something you CAN"T do on the XBOX 360. And with DX10 coming out, PC users will be able to experience a whole new world of games with visually stunning details that console users could only dream of (Crysis anyone?). Consoles DO NOT support DX10, and won't until the next generation of consoles which will be available in a few years, so till than CONSOLE users are left far behind, not PC's. And by the time the next generation console comes out, PC users should have already saved up enough money to upgrade their PC's to a level where even the next generation of consoles can not reach. PC's left behind my ass.

Posted by: inowereulive10
exept for modding............wooo
Are you jealous or something?, wow, you can play on your console, and play like 20 maps a thousand times, wow real fun isn't it. Or you can jump onto your PC and play hundreds and/or thousands of different maps and never get bored of having to do the same map all the time.

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  • 07.31.2007 8:46 AM PDT

Slaying noobs since 2007.

Hahahahahahaha, this is so funny, the OP actually thinks consoles are better! You made a joke, I must chuckle. But, seriously, let this dumbass thread die. And to the OP, don't bother reposting on this thread again, because all you want to say is, "OMG, Dsrt Fx rWtF, you shudnt evn hock ur ethrntt cble 2 ur routr!!!111!!! U make my sis sad :(", my response will be, "Maybe she's sad because she has a retarded brother, oh, and I'm on a wireless frequency, so don't give me that -blam!-".

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Posted by: Fake

Posted by: inowereulive10
exept for modding............wooo
Are you jealous or something?, wow, you can play on your console, and play like 20 maps a thousand times, wow real fun isn't it. Or you can jump onto your PC and play hundreds and/or thousands of different maps and never get bored of having to do the same map all the time.


lol, its called halo 2 for xbox. played 20 maps thousands of times and its one of the funnest games iv ever played, and still is after how many years now?
I feal sry for people who have only played halo 2 vista and not halo 2 xbox because its just no where near as good.

so if you want to play halo 2, get it on xbox. Hence Thread Title




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Posted by: inowereulive10
Posted by: Fake

Posted by: inowereulive10
exept for modding............wooo
Are you jealous or something?, wow, you can play on your console, and play like 20 maps a thousand times, wow real fun isn't it. Or you can jump onto your PC and play hundreds and/or thousands of different maps and never get bored of having to do the same map all the time.


lol, its called halo 2 for xbox. played 20 maps thousands of times and its one of the funnest games iv ever played, and still is after how many years now?
I feal sry for people who have only played halo 2 vista and not halo 2 xbox because its just no where near as good.

so if you want to play halo 2, get it on xbox. Hence Thread Title



I feal sry for people who cant spell and have no sense of grammer about their funnest games. :O

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Posted by: inowereulive10
Posted by: Fake

Posted by: inowereulive10
exept for modding............wooo
Are you jealous or something?, wow, you can play on your console, and play like 20 maps a thousand times, wow real fun isn't it. Or you can jump onto your PC and play hundreds and/or thousands of different maps and never get bored of having to do the same map all the time.


lol, its called halo 2 for xbox. played 20 maps thousands of times and its one of the funnest games iv ever played, and still is after how many years now?
I feal sry for people who have only played halo 2 vista and not halo 2 xbox because its just no where near as good.

so if you want to play halo 2, get it on xbox. Hence Thread Title




So please TRY to explain to me why the XBox version is better than the Vista one. I have both and other than the Vista version looking better, they are essentially the same game. But now WE PC users also have custom maps for H2V coming from the modding community, what have you got?
Lets see if your XBox was anything like a PC in terms of technology, it would now be considered OLD now, time for you to upgrade, get a PC :)

*edit- WTF is "in stead"?

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Lets just say my old school Atari pwns all and end the discussion.

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Posted by: inowereulive10
those are some good points but all the best games come out on consoles like halo and halo 2 and halo 3.

This was quite the laughable statement. Only one game out of those three has proven to actually be good, and even it was flawed. Maybe Halo 3 will make up for Halo 2, but it's still lacking anything new to be called anything CLOSE to the "best game." Halo in itself was first unimaginative and repetitive; it had the things FPS games already had and have had since Doom 95. In the end, Halo is fun, but it doesn't even come close as to being "amazing" or to be listed with other top dog FPS games. People only do so because of the gigantic fan base, which is dominating simply because Halo sold the Xbox and it's going to sell the hell out of the 360 as well. It's a fad, really, just like the yoyo. Cool people are doing it so you'd want to do it to be cool as well.

Posted by: inowereulive10
its a shame that PC end up with "ports" which are no way as good.

It's not like Bungie has a say in the matter. They lost their soul when they sold it to Microsoft. Though there is hope. The founders and other cream-of-the-crop team members went on to form Wideload Studios. As a matter of fact, many gaming companies considered to be power house contenders are losing their founders and members. Blizzard lost nearly all of Blizzard North, and half of them went on to start up Flagship Studios, which is developing HellGate: London.

Back to the point though. The PC people don't get the shaft at all. If you think a lot of PC-only people are getting winded up about how late it took Halo 2 to get ported, then you're mistaken. We have our golden FPS games, and more are still coming out. If anything, they probably pity the console players when they get the port because they know how hindered that game will be on a console.

Posted by: inowereulive10]
plus about the cost thing it is more cost effective to buy a console because £280 is alot better than £1000 no matter how you look at it, if gaming is your first priority.

It is to the kids and teens without jobs and who rely on mom and dad for their cash flow, or the broke college kids who don't want to spend the hassle with buying a rig (mostly because most people don't know how to properly shop for one). It's that train of thought that makes the console biz such a monopoly.

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...and you only have yo watch E3 2007 just to realise how far behind PC gaming realy is and how fast console gaming has beat PC gaming at every turn...

Here was your best laughable statement by far.

Let's take a look at the console-only titles that are "beating" PC gaming at "every turn," shall we?

Mass Effect
Turok
Fable 2
Halo Wars
Halo 3 (considering it will probably take two or three years to port to PC)
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Manhunt 2
Metroid Prime 3
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Super Mario Galaxy

Now, let's take a look at PC-only titles that are obviously "losing" to the consoles.

Crysis
HellGate: London
Spore
Starcraft 2

The rest of the top sequels and firsts will be multi-platform, but I can only imagine where they will thrive, especially based upon fan base (Half-Life 2 Box set, Call of Duty 4, Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, Bioshock, World in Conflict, Timeshift) and where they will have a prolonged life (PC mods anyone?).

Hell, half of the console releases aren't anything new either (I'm sure game play for SSB:M, MP3, Manhunt 2, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, and Turok will all be game-breakingly new [/sarcasm]), not to mention how many times they have been done (how old is Samus/Mario/Ninja Gaiden?). At least here on the PC we strive to create quality over quantity as well as some new things too (Crysis, HellGate: London, Spore). Let me know when the console gets some quality control and I'll think about buying one--and even then I'll probably get the shaft for some other exclusive title not available to the console I buy. After all, it's not like you suffer with the PC in trade off between platforms (Hell, even Mac users can run Windows).

And stop flaunting the $400-only price tag for the 360. You know as well as I do that you have to spend a lot more than $400 for a true "gamer experience" on the consoles. Don't even get me started on the PS3's price tag. Like I said before, once you also buy a game for the console, that's it, but when you buy a game on the PC? Well, hell, people are still creating mods for Half-Life 1.

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  • 07.31.2007 1:11 PM PDT

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time. I know who you are. You are destiny.

One of the most simple, yet complex reasons is the fact that you guys need to throw your current console away and get a new one to update. We may replace parts, install new programs, download updates, and get high-end graphics. And let's not take our mind off MSN Messenger, the most socially used chat web-based program. You can't do that on Opera on a Wii, nor on your PS3.

  • 07.31.2007 1:19 PM PDT