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Posted by: twinkiemaker
4. I consider your proposal for the Halo 3 forum (and forums in general) somewhat akin to something Stalin or Hussein would implement. Thats just my opinion. Im sure you disagree with it, but its my opinion to hold nonetheless. I also believe that you're suggesting a fix for something that is more of a societal issue than a Bungie Community issue. When you figure something out that will convince parents to actually teach their kids some basic respect, manners and discipline, let me know.
ps - You'll have to pardon the terseness, I'm short on time this morning.No problem.
But I do not really agree -- as you predicted. Punishing bad behavior and attempting to prevent it in the future is something that happens in every community and society on this planet. Here in the United States, man who beats up his wife might be subject to a restraining order that does not allow him to come close to her again in order to prevent him from repeating this bad behavior -- like my idea, this restraining order is specific to him and not imposed uniformly upon ALL people. But nobody would argue that restraining orders are facist or dictatorial.
In this same manner, this system would allow users who follow the rules to go about their usual posting practices with absolutely no visible change -- if you like making lots of one-line witty comments that are within the rules, go for it. If you like typing out 10,000-word manifestos, go for it. You would not see any restrictions on your ability to do either one provided that you are a good poster.
But new users would have to earn the "trust" of the b.net "system" before they could post in high-volume. I see nothing wrong with this.... allow users to post only once every few minutes until they have proven that they can stay within the bounds of the rules, and slowly remove that restriction as they become more trusted. "Untrusted" or "bad" posters would need to regain the system's trust before they could post in high volume again. But nothing would restrict or restrain them from making either long OR short posts within the bounds of their variable spam filter. If a "bad poster" chooses to engage in more bad behavior and further lower his or her trust rating, he or she faces the consequence of not being able to post as often. Act within the rules and boundaries, however, and the trust rating goes up and they can post more often.
It's a simple rewards-and-punishments system, but the twist is that the reward or punishment involves the user's ability to engage in further good-or-bad behavior, thus preventing "bad posts" before they even occur.
As far as the societal fix rather than the Bungie community fix goes, you may be right, as I am foced to admit. But I do not really think so from my own experience, as I do not take such a pessimistic view of Bungie.net community members. I was not lying or exaggerating when I said that I have seen the exact same users completely change their behavior based on the forum they are in. This led me to the conclusion that many or most users will conform their behavior to be accepted and befriended by the community in which they are involved. If we create the culture of high-quality discussion in the Halo 3 forum that we currently have in a few other select forums on this site, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the efforts that Halo 3 Forum regulars go to in order to be accepted by their peers :-)