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Subject: READ THIS BEFORE POSTING HERE ABOUT TECH ISSUES!!!
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- Ok so many have issues with Halo 2, granted, it's not very optimized for many computers but I have to emphasize that over 80% of all issues with games ARE hardware-related or user-error related.

First take the time to READ through my topic completely BEFORE taking any actions as many of these steps are JUST suggestions!!!

A few things to do before posting here asking for help:

A) Run your Computer in a "Selective Startup"

Why? - Because this might rule out the fact that you might be running a program incompatible with Halo 2 that might be hogging some piece of memory or the CPUs power that Halo 2 needs.

-How to:

Go to Start, Then Run... and type into the box "msconfig" (without the quotes) Then, under the Services tab first check the Box that says "Hide all Microsoft services" and then "Disable all". Now go to the Startup tab and Disable all. after this reboot and then test Halo 2 right away (don't open anything before it!) Note that if you wish to return your computer to a normal startup (all programs start up at the startup) then just go to the General tab and click the "Normal Startup" (I don't like the normal one - takes too much time, and I can always start a program myself if I need it)
*NOTE That doing a Selective Startup could also fix problems connecting to LIVE.

B) Try the -nosound parameter in the shortcut

Why? Because I've noticed that many issues with Halo 2 might be because of different sound cards, drivers, filters or codecs and this would be just a way to eliminate that possibility.

-How to:

Go to your Games folder (Should be in the Start menu) and Right-Click the Halo 2 for Windows Vista shortcut and select Customize... Then, click the Edit button and in the Target window add the "-nosound" (without the quotes) so that it would look like this:

"X:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Halo 2\startup.exe" -nosound (X representing the Drive letter where ever you've got Halo 2 installed)

Or if you have a shortcut on your desktop then right-click the shortcut and select Properties and in the Target add the "-nosound" parameter.

Then just click OK and try it out (launch Halo 2 from that shortcut). If the game works, then you'll know that the problem is sound-related and you should try disabling codecs or filters or search for newer drivers etc...

C) Reinstall

Why? Because maybe something just got screwed up in the installation and is the cause of all your problems.

-How to:

First, uninstall the game, and when you're attempting to reinstall the game, first, make sure that you have closed all other applications running in the background and secondly, DON'T USE THE TRAY AND PLAY FEATURE! Use the customize game install one instead. Otherwise install as usual, then it is suggested that you defrag the files.
If you still get issues then try uninstalling the game completely (deleting all the game folders too) and then cleaning the Registry from all Halo 2 left-over keys.

-To clean the registry:

Go to Start, then Run... and type "regedit" (without the quotes of course) and the hit OK. Then, by either manually looking for the keys associated with Halo 2 (might take a while...) OR by using the nifty "Search" option (Edit->Find...) look for keywords like Halo or.... well halo. And delete all the entries you find.
PS. If you have Halo 1 installed then you'll need to be more careful.

D) Defrag.

Why? - Because Halo 2 can be very glitchy on where the gamefiles are and in what shape they are in.

-How to:

Go to Control Panel, from there System Maintenance and under the Administrative Tools is the Defragmenting option.
PS check page 4, halo2vistas post, it contains a better utility...

E) Do some cleaning

Why? - I can't even count how many times my computer has started to *** with me and the after cleaning it up everything's got back to normal.

-How to:

Well... If you don't know how to clean some dust out of your computer then maybe you should let someone else do it ...

F) Do some cleaning part II

Part II?? - Yes that's right, Part 2, only this time I'm talking about spyware, viruses etc...

-How to:

Well... DUH!! Get Spybot S&D, Ad-Aware and a free antivirus program (I prefer Avira AntiVir) and perform a basic scan... (You could use something else, but these are the best and most compatible with other programs, you can also check over at TweakGuides the most recommended security programs) PS. These programs are all free and not spyware and/or Adware. Have a little faith people...

G) Increase Pagefile size + defrag it

Why? - The pagefile is something that Windows uses to store temporal data, much like the RAM does, only Windows mostly stores its own programs and and for a good reason; pagefile is slower than RAM which is used again for the more pressing priorities. If there's not enough pagefile, windows will start to hog RAM. Also, some games are optimized to use pagefile incase if there isn't enough RAM.

-How to:

Go to Control Panel->System & Maintenance->System and from the sidebar select "Advanced System Settings", then (Under the Advanced tab) select under the Performance section "Settings", now in the Performance Options window under the Advanced tab in the "Virtual Memory" section click "Change". Now to defrag it, set the pagefile to zero (you most select the drive first which has the pagefile) and then reboot. Then set it to something higher than it was (You pick the number, just remember that pagefile takes harddrive space) and you can also give other Drives a pagefile for increased pagefile size (2+2=4) and reboot!

... Last but not least ...

UPDATE ALL YOUR DRIVERS!!!

Yes, we've seen this hundreds of times; people claiming that they've got all the latest updates for the game, windows and computer components. Yet, the only thing that they usually have run is the windows update utility (which sucks, by the way) - This is something that you always have to do manually (well, apart from Windows updates...).

Graphics card, Sound card, Chipset, Motherboard (BIOS), windows... Even if you find a driver update for your CPU then apply it! (You can see the links for the most popular ones down below)

... If ALL else fails...

- Go over at Halo 2 Vistas Forum, post DETAILED descriptions about your problem, specs and drivers and please state if you have a laptop or a desktop computer.

POST A DXDIAG!!!

Why? Because the DxDiag (Short for DirectX Diagnostics report) provides much useful information about your computer (things you might not even know or think that would be useful to share) And that is why it is imperative that when you come here on these boards asking for help in a tech-related issue, you should always post a dxdiag report with your post!

-How to:

Go to Start->Then click Run...->Type "dxdiag" (without the quotes) into the box and click OK->Click "Save all information"->Save it anywhere (where you can find it)-> include it in your post.

Another important thing that the DirectX Diagnostic Tool doesn't give any information about is the type/power output of your Power Supply Unit, so information about your PSU make, model and power rating should also be provided, particularly if your problem is related to computer crashes or graphic card freezes and/or lock-ups.

Note:
If you have a ATI Mobility Radeon card, you probably know that ATI has signed with the OEM manufacturers that they won't make drivers for the Mobility branch anymore (because the OEM's like having control over them for some odd reason...) so you also might notice that there are a lot less drivers out there for Mobility cards. This might present to be troublesome for when playing games.
For that, there is a small cure though; the Mobility Modder.
With it, you're able to install the normal ATI Radeon drivers for your Mobility card without much side effects at all!
http://www.driverheaven.net/modtool/
Remember that ATI does not support this, but it's still fair to say that this is better than sitting on your ass waiting for your OEM to release a driver that might not fix what you're hoping...
Also, there's a lot to read in that page, but it's all important, not bull-blam!-.
(Thanks to Knight for making me realize something...)

*Specified Tips located in original thread. Sorry.

*Some Extras have also been removed due to character limits, see original thread for the links.


A word of warning:
If you plan on playing Halo 2 on a laptop or with an integrated graphics card/chip you also have to know that it might not work at all, even after all these tips and suggestions because, simply put; Halo 2 doesn't like laptops (or integrated gfx cards/chips) - It hasn't been tested thoroughly on laptops and certainly not optimized for them (again, integrated gfx cards/chips). Any integrated graphics cards (Nvidia GeForce 6150, ATI Xpress 200, etc) will not run Halo 2 well. But usually this is the case with all games, right? Well let's not forget that Halo 2 is a port...

Also, if something seems a bit confusing, weird or if I just mistyped something (or if I got confused... And trust me, it happens...) then just point it out and I will brush it up. Even if you have an idea or a link then post it here for everyone to see (I'd pin it to my post, but I've got limited characters remaining), let's make this a manual for anyone who has problems!

PS: If you wish to see the original (prettier and longer) topic, go here....
http://forums.haloonwindowsvista.com/forums/thread/3916.aspx
I'll try to keep this one updated accordingly...

Version 2.15(beta)

[Edited on 10.14.2007 7:56 PM PDT]

  • 08.01.2007 7:33 AM PDT

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Known Issues
1) Just before the Gravemind level the game asks for the CD. This a bug in some peoples installs. Not sure what the criteria is because I've never gotten it. However the solution is not to “Resume”; that will set you back up to 3 levels. What you want to do is return to the campaign menu and select the level to play. One person copied the map file for that level, 07a_highcharity.map, from the CD, and made another copy renamed to 07a_highcarity.map. With both spellings of the map in his directory he did not get the message again.

2) Servers not available when you go onto Live. This is another bug that pops up when you go into the server browser RIGHT AWAY when you start the game. If you do anything else first; i.e. Check messages or settings, the servers will display when you do go into it.

3) Mouse stuttering badly They have found that on high end machines running the game over 100FPS it is running to fast. You need to force V-sych on and that should correct the issue. NOTE: this only works in full-screen mode
For Nvidia users:
1. Right click on your desktop
2. Click NVIDIA Control Panel
3. Select Advanced Settings
4. Click Manage 3D Settings
5. Click on the Program Settings Tab
6. Click Add
7. Select halo2.exe ( c:\program files\microsoft games\Halo 2 )
8. Scroll to the bottom of the settings for Halo2.exe and force Vsync ON
9. Click Apply
10. Play!

For ATI users:
1. Right click on your desktop
2. Click ATI Catalyst Control Center
3. Click on 3D
4. Click on All Settings
5. Scroll down to "Wait for vertical refresh"
6. Move it to the right until it says "On until application specifies"
7. Click Apply
8. Play!

4) Cannot change key-binding, “E” is already used. Another known bug that doesn't affect all. The solution so far is to choose “Southpaw” and configure it the way you want, it seems to allow the key-binding just fine in that setup.

5) Getting an error code connecting to LIVE. This is an issue affecting a lot of people in Halo2 and Shadowrun. The issue has to do with NIC's port forwarding but I haven't been able to gather the fragmented info into any kind of a solution yet.

[Edited on 08.02.2007 3:35 AM PDT]

  • 08.01.2007 9:10 AM PDT
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Most of the PC issues posted here are the result of PEBKAC.

For those who are prompted to insert disc when playing Gravemind, just insert the disc. It works fine after that.

  • 08.01.2007 3:50 PM PDT

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If you're going to update this from time to time, I request a Sticky

  • 08.01.2007 6:33 PM PDT

Umm...i cant hear other people during games. I did EVERYTHING u said. No fix.

  • 08.01.2007 6:40 PM PDT
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You sure it's not just a setting issue? Try going to the LIVE menu by pressing HOME ingame and then in the personal settings is the Audio settings for the mic and speakers regarding the player(s) etc... If it's not then it must be a Audio driver issue, Either search for an update or if it's up to date make sure that it's configured in the right way like let's say you've got an 5.1 setup: Go to the Control Panel-> Then Hardware & Sound->Sound->Configure and select the 5.1 setup and proceed with the test.

And vincent5, I've heard that doesn't work. To make it to work you'll have to exit your current game (when it asks for the disc) then, from the singleplayer menu, you have to select the Gravemind level manually.

Iggwilv, Whenever I'm going to update my topic, I'm going to update the one over at Halo2Vista (original) and add an description on what I updated like I've done the whole time. So because I've already used the 10000 character limit, you're going to have to add in your post the things that I'll be adding into my topic ok? So just check in on the original one once in a while ok? Or I could just tell you or whatever suits you.

And yes, this should be made a sticky.

[Edited on 08.01.2007 9:03 PM PDT]

  • 08.01.2007 8:44 PM PDT
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...Sticky.,

  • 08.01.2007 10:11 PM PDT
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X3 for sticky.

  • 08.02.2007 3:00 AM PDT
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Yeah I updated the post, added a link to Guru3D's site but I couldn'd put it over here....
Hey out of curiosity, Do mods sticky threads over at this forum? Or do they think that this thread isn't worthy of a sticky? Or is it as hopeless as in the Halo on Windows Vista forums?
If it is then I won't bump this again.

[Edited on 08.03.2007 11:01 AM PDT]

  • 08.03.2007 11:00 AM PDT
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Rude sarcasm doesn't get a thread stickied just FYI, but actually putting in some effort and PMing a mod does.

  • 08.03.2007 11:07 AM PDT
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That wasn't sarcasm, I was DEAD Serious...
BTW who's a mod over here at the Halo 1&2 PC forum so that I could PM them?

[Edited on 08.03.2007 7:58 PM PDT]

  • 08.03.2007 7:57 PM PDT

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time. I know who you are. You are destiny.

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[Edited on 08.03.2007 8:36 PM PDT]

  • 08.03.2007 8:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: Caboose OMalley
That wasn't sarcasm, I was DEAD Serious...
BTW who's a mod over here at the Halo 1&2 PC forum so that I could PM them?


Go to the Bungie.net Community forum and look for people with gold or any other non-standard text colour. They are Moderators or Ninjas, PM one of them and they'll see about getting this stickied. (FYI: The all capitals thread title is a little unnecessary.)

  • 08.03.2007 8:17 PM PDT

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*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

There is a better solution that crapping your framerate for mouse lag which would be increasing the USB polling rate, it worked for me. follow the directions here: http://www.overclock3d.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8561

  • 08.03.2007 8:26 PM PDT
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Thanks, I'll do that.
I didn't notice this until now but apparently the original thread got stickied over at Halo on Windows Vista forums so that's a good thing.
And I was Serious. But people often complain that I sound sarcastic and negative most of the time so if I did sound sarcastic then I apologise, it wasn't my intention.
And BTW, I don't like you just for the record ;P

[Edited on 08.03.2007 8:29 PM PDT]

  • 08.03.2007 8:27 PM PDT

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time. I know who you are. You are destiny.

Posted by: Caboose OMalley
Thanks, I'll do that.
I didn't notice this until now but apparently the original thread got stickied over at Halo on Windows Vista forums so that's a good thing.
And I was Serious. But people often complain that I sound sarcastic and negative most of the time so if I did sound sarcastic then I apologise, it wasn't my intention.
And BTW, I don't like you just for the record ;P
Yeah, I guess you trully mean it... sorry man.

  • 08.03.2007 8:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: Caboose OMalley
Thanks, I'll do that.
I didn't notice this until now but apparently the original thread got stickied over at Halo on Windows Vista forums so that's a good thing.
And I was Serious. But people often complain that I sound sarcastic and negative most of the time so if I did sound sarcastic then I apologise, it wasn't my intention.
And BTW, I don't like you just for the record ;P


Dude, I'm sarcastic and negative ALL THE TIME. Intentional or not. Don't apologize for it. Embrace the sarcasticallness!

  • 08.03.2007 8:41 PM PDT

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time. I know who you are. You are destiny.

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Posted by: Caboose OMalley
Thanks, I'll do that.
I didn't notice this until now but apparently the original thread got stickied over at Halo on Windows Vista forums so that's a good thing.
And I was Serious. But people often complain that I sound sarcastic and negative most of the time so if I did sound sarcastic then I apologise, it wasn't my intention.
And BTW, I don't like you just for the record ;P


Dude, I'm sarcastic and negative ALL THE TIME. Intentional or not. Don't apologize for it. Embrace the sarcasticallness!
Master Obi-Wan has spoken!

  • 08.03.2007 8:43 PM PDT
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Most of the PC issues posted here are the result of PEBKAC.

Posted by: Caboose OMalley

And vincent5, I've heard that doesn't work. To make it to work you'll have to exit your current game (when it asks for the disc) then, from the singleplayer menu, you have to select the Gravemind level manually.




Hmm, putting in the disc worked for me.

  • 08.03.2007 8:47 PM PDT
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But it doesn't work for everyone. The only thing that seems to work for everyone is the manual selection method.

  • 08.03.2007 8:58 PM PDT

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time. I know who you are. You are destiny.

Odd enough for me though, is the fact I was never asked for my CD in the Gravemind cutscene...

  • 08.03.2007 9:00 PM PDT
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Same here, I know for a fact that over 99% of the people who used the TRAY and PLAY feature get this error (and a lot of other glitches and graphical bugs which is why you shouldn't use it)

  • 08.03.2007 9:05 PM PDT

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time. I know who you are. You are destiny.

True, true.

  • 08.03.2007 9:13 PM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Well Caboose, I tried everything you detailed here and I still have lockups and performance issues especially in campaign. I tried to post my DxDiag stuff but the forum gave me an error and wouldn't let me post it.

  • 08.04.2007 9:10 AM PDT
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The forum's bugged, you need to Copy your text before posting it and if you get the error then try it again - saves time so you don't need to write it all again.
And just to make myself clear; these aren't any miracle cures, they are simply steps (very common ones) to ensure the best compatibility and they don't always work, the problem could be something a lot more complicated, but usually it isn't. And the "Add attachment" option is bugged too, so just copy-paste the report into your post.

Interesting Fact:
Did you know that the word bug in computer related terms came from infact, a bug?
In one of the first computers made (in an american university) there was a problem - one of the first computer problems ever, and when they opened the case (the computer was almost as huge as a fridge!) they found out that a moth had gotten entangled in the CPUs fan and it was causing all the problems - hence the name - BUG.
Funny huh?

BTW Iggwilv, I added most of your known fixes to the post over at the H2V forums.
And could you add a word of warning about laptops into your post? If you're too tired to type then just Copy-Paste the one in the original thread.

[Edited on 08.04.2007 9:03 PM PDT]

  • 08.04.2007 9:55 AM PDT