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Subject: What really constitues skill in Halo?

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Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: BestSpartan117
Posted by: FKxPandemic
I disagree with the button glitches. I'm not arguing that they aren't exploiting glitches, or cheating blah blah blah. But its certainly ignorant to say that anyone who uses them is not good. A majority of people who use button glitches, would be just as good without them. The people that rely on button glitches aren't good, but most people don't rely on them. Your opinion basically said all halo pros aren't good at Halo. Funny thing is, they were pros without glitches, and still would be. they don't need them, and button glitches do not have a big enough impact on a player to make him good. A bad player using button glitches does not get any better.

And I must add, RRX is probably the most skill based part of Halo. Yes its a glitch, but it takes a lot of skill to not only be able to use it, but use it consistently, effectively, and accurately. It is probably the hardest thing to master in halo2.

Posted by: FKxPandemic
I disagree with the button glitches. I'm not arguing that they aren't exploiting glitches, or cheating blah blah blah. But its certainly ignorant to say that anyone who uses them is not good. A majority of people who use button glitches, would be just as good without them. The people that rely on button glitches aren't good, but most people don't rely on them. Your opinion basically said all halo pros aren't good at Halo. Funny thing is, they were pros without glitches, and still would be. they don't need them, and button glitches do not have a big enough impact on a player to make him good. A bad player using button glitches does not get any better.

And I must add, RRX is probably the most skill based part of Halo. Yes its a glitch, but it takes a lot of skill to not only be able to use it, but use it consistently, effectively, and accurately. It is probably the hardest thing to master in halo2.



wrong1!!! THGAT IS SKILL IN MORTALKOMBAT IN MATCHMAKING IS CHEATING BYTHE WAY NOT ALL PROSALRRE THAT GOOD PROS MAYBE GOOD BUT WITHOUT GLICTHES THEY REALLY ARE LESS POWERFUL I HAVE SEeN VoD


TEAMWORK+ AIM +SMART PLAY=SKILL

GLITHCES+CHEATING


EVERY GLICCTHER IS A CHEATER I HEARD KP WAS BANNED FOR BXR


You're such a fool.

Last i checked, there is no RRX in mortal Kombat.

RRX is a HALO SKILL, the only game its in, IS HALO. It still requires using the firing button IN HALO. It still requires aiming the reticule IN HALO.

RRX is skill based because its insanely hard to aim. You can't just say, "I'm going to 3 shot people today" and do it. Also, last i checked, mastering it won't make you any better at mortal combat idiot. You must be twelve, you don't have the intelligence of anything past it. Halo has button combos buddy, EVERY VIDEO GAME does, because you hit buttons to do everything. Double melee is BB. that's a button combo, it must be only for Mortal Kombat skills. People who melee in Halo are only good at Mortal Kombat.

Melee+headshot. That kills, its a button combo, BR. Must be only for Mortal Kombat.

4 Shot. RRRR. That's a combination of buttons, is it not?

Flag/Ball/Bomb One Hit kill. AB. Another combination of buttons.

But you're right, using another button on the controller, to simply speed it up, suddenly makes it a Mortal Kombat skill, even though you're doing the exact same thing.

And learn to type.

"uoibrcibhcwbjioec" Oh look, I typed like you.

"GLITHCES+CHEATING" I don't get this. Glitches+Cheating? What does it equal?


Oh, and all pros are good, glitches or not idiot. Wow, you've seen VoD, congrats, where pros are playing other pros. They aren't going to look as good when playing people as good. But, watch them play someone like YOU, and next thing you know, they're going +35 while blanking you in CTF Middy.



RRX is a combo CMAKE ALL THE COMBOS YOU WANT IN MORTALKOMBAT N MATCHMAKING IS CHEATING

FANBOY OF MLG YOU ARE A CHEATER FOR WEPON GLICTHING IN MATCHMAKING AND YOU DONT WANT TO ADMIT IT HOWEVER YOU CAN GLICTH ALL YOU WANT IN MLG


i could beat you anyways I dont play halo tough I am not afrai of laying against pros i beated Overswarm ( a semipro) with ease



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Posted by: BestSpartan117
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: BestSpartan117
Posted by: FKxPandemic
I disagree with the button glitches. I'm not arguing that they aren't exploiting glitches, or cheating blah blah blah. But its certainly ignorant to say that anyone who uses them is not good. A majority of people who use button glitches, would be just as good without them. The people that rely on button glitches aren't good, but most people don't rely on them. Your opinion basically said all halo pros aren't good at Halo. Funny thing is, they were pros without glitches, and still would be. they don't need them, and button glitches do not have a big enough impact on a player to make him good. A bad player using button glitches does not get any better.

And I must add, RRX is probably the most skill based part of Halo. Yes its a glitch, but it takes a lot of skill to not only be able to use it, but use it consistently, effectively, and accurately. It is probably the hardest thing to master in halo2.

Posted by: FKxPandemic
I disagree with the button glitches. I'm not arguing that they aren't exploiting glitches, or cheating blah blah blah. But its certainly ignorant to say that anyone who uses them is not good. A majority of people who use button glitches, would be just as good without them. The people that rely on button glitches aren't good, but most people don't rely on them. Your opinion basically said all halo pros aren't good at Halo. Funny thing is, they were pros without glitches, and still would be. they don't need them, and button glitches do not have a big enough impact on a player to make him good. A bad player using button glitches does not get any better.

And I must add, RRX is probably the most skill based part of Halo. Yes its a glitch, but it takes a lot of skill to not only be able to use it, but use it consistently, effectively, and accurately. It is probably the hardest thing to master in halo2.



wrong1!!! THGAT IS SKILL IN MORTALKOMBAT IN MATCHMAKING IS CHEATING BYTHE WAY NOT ALL PROSALRRE THAT GOOD PROS MAYBE GOOD BUT WITHOUT GLICTHES THEY REALLY ARE LESS POWERFUL I HAVE SEeN VoD


TEAMWORK+ AIM +SMART PLAY=SKILL

GLITHCES+CHEATING


EVERY GLICCTHER IS A CHEATER I HEARD KP WAS BANNED FOR BXR


You're such a fool.

Last i checked, there is no RRX in mortal Kombat.

RRX is a HALO SKILL, the only game its in, IS HALO. It still requires using the firing button IN HALO. It still requires aiming the reticule IN HALO.

RRX is skill based because its insanely hard to aim. You can't just say, "I'm going to 3 shot people today" and do it. Also, last i checked, mastering it won't make you any better at mortal combat idiot. You must be twelve, you don't have the intelligence of anything past it. Halo has button combos buddy, EVERY VIDEO GAME does, because you hit buttons to do everything. Double melee is BB. that's a button combo, it must be only for Mortal Kombat skills. People who melee in Halo are only good at Mortal Kombat.

Melee+headshot. That kills, its a button combo, BR. Must be only for Mortal Kombat.

4 Shot. RRRR. That's a combination of buttons, is it not?

Flag/Ball/Bomb One Hit kill. AB. Another combination of buttons.

But you're right, using another button on the controller, to simply speed it up, suddenly makes it a Mortal Kombat skill, even though you're doing the exact same thing.

And learn to type.

"uoibrcibhcwbjioec" Oh look, I typed like you.

"GLITHCES+CHEATING" I don't get this. Glitches+Cheating? What does it equal?


Oh, and all pros are good, glitches or not idiot. Wow, you've seen VoD, congrats, where pros are playing other pros. They aren't going to look as good when playing people as good. But, watch them play someone like YOU, and next thing you know, they're going +35 while blanking you in CTF Middy.



RRX is a combo CMAKE ALL THE COMBOS YOU WANT IN MORTALKOMBAT N MATCHMAKING IS CHEATING

FANBOY OF MLG YOU ARE A CHEATER FOR WEPON GLICTHING IN MATCHMAKING AND YOU DONT WANT TO ADMIT IT HOWEVER YOU CAN GLICTH ALL YOU WANT IN MLG


i could beat you anyways I dont play halo tough I am not afrai of laying against pros i beated Overswarm ( a semipro) with ease



OMG child, be quite.

So all combos are cheating in halo. Damn, everything I do is cheating. Do you go around NOT pressing combos in Halo?

Actually, I rarely even play MM, call me a cheater all you want, but the only time I glitch are in customs, or hardcore, where everyone is glitching. In a game where everyone is glitching, its not cheating. Do you want to know why? Because its cheating by the ToS if it gives an unfair advantage. if everyone's doing it, its not unfair.

No you can't beat me. Sorry.

Who the hell is this Overswarm kid? He's definitely not semi-pro. he's probably just like MCCE, he goes around telling everyone he is just because he went to an event.

  • 08.06.2007 1:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: SOSLICK22
there's a way to tell if you button glitched, it's even easier when its all recorded.


You are correct, BUT, do see what I mean about the difficulty, I mean if you have a big compotion like MLG Vegas, then sure everyone is filmed but even then you would need judges to debate and determine if it was or wasn't a glitch. With bouncing all ANYone needs is a pair of eyes that can see to tell if they have or not.

  • 08.06.2007 1:34 PM PDT

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I AM A PROUD CHRISTIAN. HALO IS AWESOME BUT GOD IS MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!
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It is officially cheating (along with exploiting any other glitches to gain an advantage).

Use at your own disgretion in your own custom games but it's cheating to use them in Matchmaking.

I'm afraid these sorts of topics are supposed to be locked as it's a brickwall discussion. It IS 100% cheating in Matchmaking, but if you're going to use them in custom games (to make it more entertaining) then that's up to you (and your opponents).

Bungie's Policy = Doubleshooting is cheating. Therefore it is cheating.

Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: BestSpartan117
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: BestSpartan117
Posted by: FKxPandemic
I disagree with the button glitches. I'm not arguing that they aren't exploiting glitches, or cheating blah blah blah. But its certainly ignorant to say that anyone who uses them is not good. A majority of people who use button glitches, would be just as good without them. The people that rely on button glitches aren't good, but most people don't rely on them. Your opinion basically said all halo pros aren't good at Halo. Funny thing is, they were pros without glitches, and still would be. they don't need them, and button glitches do not have a big enough impact on a player to make him good. A bad player using button glitches does not get any better.

And I must add, RRX is probably the most skill based part of Halo. Yes its a glitch, but it takes a lot of skill to not only be able to use it, but use it consistently, effectively, and accurately. It is probably the hardest thing to master in halo2.

Posted by: FKxPandemic
I disagree with the button glitches. I'm not arguing that they aren't exploiting glitches, or cheating blah blah blah. But its certainly ignorant to say that anyone who uses them is not good. A majority of people who use button glitches, would be just as good without them. The people that rely on button glitches aren't good, but most people don't rely on them. Your opinion basically said all halo pros aren't good at Halo. Funny thing is, they were pros without glitches, and still would be. they don't need them, and button glitches do not have a big enough impact on a player to make him good. A bad player using button glitches does not get any better.

And I must add, RRX is probably the most skill based part of Halo. Yes its a glitch, but it takes a lot of skill to not only be able to use it, but use it consistently, effectively, and accurately. It is probably the hardest thing to master in halo2.



wrong1!!! THGAT IS SKILL IN MORTALKOMBAT IN MATCHMAKING IS CHEATING BYTHE WAY NOT ALL PROSALRRE THAT GOOD PROS MAYBE GOOD BUT WITHOUT GLICTHES THEY REALLY ARE LESS POWERFUL I HAVE SEeN VoD


TEAMWORK+ AIM +SMART PLAY=SKILL

GLITHCES+CHEATING


EVERY GLICCTHER IS A CHEATER I HEARD KP WAS BANNED FOR BXR


You're such a fool.

Last i checked, there is no RRX in mortal Kombat.

RRX is a HALO SKILL, the only game its in, IS HALO. It still requires using the firing button IN HALO. It still requires aiming the reticule IN HALO.

RRX is skill based because its insanely hard to aim. You can't just say, "I'm going to 3 shot people today" and do it. Also, last i checked, mastering it won't make you any better at mortal combat idiot. You must be twelve, you don't have the intelligence of anything past it. Halo has button combos buddy, EVERY VIDEO GAME does, because you hit buttons to do everything. Double melee is BB. that's a button combo, it must be only for Mortal Kombat skills. People who melee in Halo are only good at Mortal Kombat.

Melee+headshot. That kills, its a button combo, BR. Must be only for Mortal Kombat.

4 Shot. RRRR. That's a combination of buttons, is it not?

Flag/Ball/Bomb One Hit kill. AB. Another combination of buttons.

But you're right, using another button on the controller, to simply speed it up, suddenly makes it a Mortal Kombat skill, even though you're doing the exact same thing.

And learn to type.

"uoibrcibhcwbjioec" Oh look, I typed like you.

"GLITHCES+CHEATING" I don't get this. Glitches+Cheating? What does it equal?


Oh, and all pros are good, glitches or not idiot. Wow, you've seen VoD, congrats, where pros are playing other pros. They aren't going to look as good when playing people as good. But, watch them play someone like YOU, and next thing you know, they're going +35 while blanking you in CTF Middy.



RRX is a combo CMAKE ALL THE COMBOS YOU WANT IN MORTALKOMBAT N MATCHMAKING IS CHEATING

FANBOY OF MLG YOU ARE A CHEATER FOR WEPON GLICTHING IN MATCHMAKING AND YOU DONT WANT TO ADMIT IT HOWEVER YOU CAN GLICTH ALL YOU WANT IN MLG


i could beat you anyways I dont play halo tough I am not afrai of laying against pros i beated Overswarm ( a semipro) with ease



OMG child, be quite.

So all combos are cheating in halo. Damn, everything I do is cheating. Do you go around NOT pressing combos in Halo?

Actually, I rarely even play MM, call me a cheater all you want, but the only time I glitch are in customs, or hardcore, where everyone is glitching. In a game where everyone is glitching, its not cheating. Do you want to know why? Because its cheating by the ToS if it gives an unfair advantage. if everyone's doing it, its not unfair.

No you can't beat me. Sorry.

Who the hell is this Overswarm kid? He's definitely not semi-pro. he's probably just like MCCE, he goes around telling everyone he is just because he went to an event.




sounds like a challenge ok I acept ( I would play for fun tough) ps
sorry you cannot prove you are more skilled than me I play gears of war since the rank reset.
Overswarm os the dude that wrote the famous guide NSCS

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It is officially cheating (along with exploiting any other glitches to gain an advantage).

Use at your own disgretion in your own custom games but it's cheating to use them in Matchmaking.

I'm afraid these sorts of topics are supposed to be locked as it's a brickwall discussion. It IS 100% cheating in Matchmaking, but if you're going to use them in custom games (to make it more entertaining) then that's up to you (and your opponents).

Bungie's Policy = Doubleshooting is cheating. Therefore it is cheating.

Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: BestSpartan117
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: BestSpartan117
Posted by: FKxPandemic
I disagree with the button glitches. I'm not arguing that they aren't exploiting glitches, or cheating blah blah blah. But its certainly ignorant to say that anyone who uses them is not good. A majority of people who use button glitches, would be just as good without them. The people that rely on button glitches aren't good, but most people don't rely on them. Your opinion basically said all halo pros aren't good at Halo. Funny thing is, they were pros without glitches, and still would be. they don't need them, and button glitches do not have a big enough impact on a player to make him good. A bad player using button glitches does not get any better.

And I must add, RRX is probably the most skill based part of Halo. Yes its a glitch, but it takes a lot of skill to not only be able to use it, but use it consistently, effectively, and accurately. It is probably the hardest thing to master in halo2.

Posted by: FKxPandemic
I disagree with the button glitches. I'm not arguing that they aren't exploiting glitches, or cheating blah blah blah. But its certainly ignorant to say that anyone who uses them is not good. A majority of people who use button glitches, would be just as good without them. The people that rely on button glitches aren't good, but most people don't rely on them. Your opinion basically said all halo pros aren't good at Halo. Funny thing is, they were pros without glitches, and still would be. they don't need them, and button glitches do not have a big enough impact on a player to make him good. A bad player using button glitches does not get any better.

And I must add, RRX is probably the most skill based part of Halo. Yes its a glitch, but it takes a lot of skill to not only be able to use it, but use it consistently, effectively, and accurately. It is probably the hardest thing to master in halo2.



wrong1!!! THGAT IS SKILL IN MORTALKOMBAT IN MATCHMAKING IS CHEATING BYTHE WAY NOT ALL PROSALRRE THAT GOOD PROS MAYBE GOOD BUT WITHOUT GLICTHES THEY REALLY ARE LESS POWERFUL I HAVE SEeN VoD


TEAMWORK+ AIM +SMART PLAY=SKILL

GLITHCES+CHEATING


EVERY GLICCTHER IS A CHEATER I HEARD KP WAS BANNED FOR BXR


You're such a fool.

Last i checked, there is no RRX in mortal Kombat.

RRX is a HALO SKILL, the only game its in, IS HALO. It still requires using the firing button IN HALO. It still requires aiming the reticule IN HALO.

RRX is skill based because its insanely hard to aim. You can't just say, "I'm going to 3 shot people today" and do it. Also, last i checked, mastering it won't make you any better at mortal combat idiot. You must be twelve, you don't have the intelligence of anything past it. Halo has button combos buddy, EVERY VIDEO GAME does, because you hit buttons to do everything. Double melee is BB. that's a button combo, it must be only for Mortal Kombat skills. People who melee in Halo are only good at Mortal Kombat.

Melee+headshot. That kills, its a button combo, BR. Must be only for Mortal Kombat.

4 Shot. RRRR. That's a combination of buttons, is it not?

Flag/Ball/Bomb One Hit kill. AB. Another combination of buttons.

But you're right, using another button on the controller, to simply speed it up, suddenly makes it a Mortal Kombat skill, even though you're doing the exact same thing.

And learn to type.

"uoibrcibhcwbjioec" Oh look, I typed like you.

"GLITHCES+CHEATING" I don't get this. Glitches+Cheating? What does it equal?


Oh, and all pros are good, glitches or not idiot. Wow, you've seen VoD, congrats, where pros are playing other pros. They aren't going to look as good when playing people as good. But, watch them play someone like YOU, and next thing you know, they're going +35 while blanking you in CTF Middy.



RRX is a combo CMAKE ALL THE COMBOS YOU WANT IN MORTALKOMBAT N MATCHMAKING IS CHEATING

FANBOY OF MLG YOU ARE A CHEATER FOR WEPON GLICTHING IN MATCHMAKING AND YOU DONT WANT TO ADMIT IT HOWEVER YOU CAN GLICTH ALL YOU WANT IN MLG


i could beat you anyways I dont play halo tough I am not afrai of laying against pros i beated Overswarm ( a semipro) with ease



OMG child, be quite.

So all combos are cheating in halo. Damn, everything I do is cheating. Do you go around NOT pressing combos in Halo?

Actually, I rarely even play MM, call me a cheater all you want, but the only time I glitch are in customs, or hardcore, where everyone is glitching. In a game where everyone is glitching, its not cheating. Do you want to know why? Because its cheating by the ToS if it gives an unfair advantage. if everyone's doing it, its not unfair.

No you can't beat me. Sorry.

Who the hell is this Overswarm kid? He's definitely not semi-pro. he's probably just like MCCE, he goes around telling everyone he is just because he went to an event.




sounds like a challenge ok I acept ( I would play for fun tough) ps
sorry you cannot prove you are more skilled than me I play gears of war since the rank reset.
Overswarm os the dude that wrote the famous guide NSCS



All I heard was "Okay, I'll play you, but if you win, it doesn't mean anything"

...........mmmkay.

Actually, if everyone in the MM game doesn't think its cheating, then it wouldn't be cheating to use them there either.

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Posted by: A BiG FaT EIiT3
^You lost your only TSN game at level 1, don't talk about him.
Me or him? (Sorry for noobness but TSN?)
Wow, and he said he is above the normal player in skill level...btw yes you.

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Amazing that 99.9% of halo 2 players cheat according to you guys, well anyone that is good. Wait how is using a glitch cheating.

-It is not bannable
-Everyone uses it, except for noobs
-Bungie hasn't taken it out
-Everyone CAN do it

So explain again how it is cheating?

[Edited on 08.06.2007 2:22 PM PDT]

  • 08.06.2007 2:21 PM PDT

The bible is the best book Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM A PROUD CHRISTIAN. HALO IS AWESOME BUT GOD IS MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!
Did you knew that JESUSdied for you?

Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: BestSpartan117


It is officially cheating (along with exploiting any other glitches to gain an advantage).

Use at your own disgretion in your own custom games but it's cheating to use them in Matchmaking.

I'm afraid these sorts of topics are supposed to be locked as it's a brickwall discussion. It IS 100% cheating in Matchmaking, but if you're going to use them in custom games (to make it more entertaining) then that's up to you (and your opponents).

Bungie's Policy = Doubleshooting is cheating. Therefore it is cheating.

Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: BestSpartan117
Posted by: FKxPandemic
Posted by: BestSpartan117
Posted by: FKxPandemic
I disagree with the button glitches. I'm not arguing that they aren't exploiting glitches, or cheating blah blah blah. But its certainly ignorant to say that anyone who uses them is not good. A majority of people who use button glitches, would be just as good without them. The people that rely on button glitches aren't good, but most people don't rely on them. Your opinion basically said all halo pros aren't good at Halo. Funny thing is, they were pros without glitches, and still would be. they don't need them, and button glitches do not have a big enough impact on a player to make him good. A bad player using button glitches does not get any better.

And I must add, RRX is probably the most skill based part of Halo. Yes its a glitch, but it takes a lot of skill to not only be able to use it, but use it consistently, effectively, and accurately. It is probably the hardest thing to master in halo2.

Posted by: FKxPandemic
I disagree with the button glitches. I'm not arguing that they aren't exploiting glitches, or cheating blah blah blah. But its certainly ignorant to say that anyone who uses them is not good. A majority of people who use button glitches, would be just as good without them. The people that rely on button glitches aren't good, but most people don't rely on them. Your opinion basically said all halo pros aren't good at Halo. Funny thing is, they were pros without glitches, and still would be. they don't need them, and button glitches do not have a big enough impact on a player to make him good. A bad player using button glitches does not get any better.

And I must add, RRX is probably the most skill based part of Halo. Yes its a glitch, but it takes a lot of skill to not only be able to use it, but use it consistently, effectively, and accurately. It is probably the hardest thing to master in halo2.



wrong1!!! THGAT IS SKILL IN MORTALKOMBAT IN MATCHMAKING IS CHEATING BYTHE WAY NOT ALL PROSALRRE THAT GOOD PROS MAYBE GOOD BUT WITHOUT GLICTHES THEY REALLY ARE LESS POWERFUL I HAVE SEeN VoD


TEAMWORK+ AIM +SMART PLAY=SKILL

GLITHCES+CHEATING


EVERY GLICCTHER IS A CHEATER I HEARD KP WAS BANNED FOR BXR


You're such a fool.

Last i checked, there is no RRX in mortal Kombat.

RRX is a HALO SKILL, the only game its in, IS HALO. It still requires using the firing button IN HALO. It still requires aiming the reticule IN HALO.

RRX is skill based because its insanely hard to aim. You can't just say, "I'm going to 3 shot people today" and do it. Also, last i checked, mastering it won't make you any better at mortal combat idiot. You must be twelve, you don't have the intelligence of anything past it. Halo has button combos buddy, EVERY VIDEO GAME does, because you hit buttons to do everything. Double melee is BB. that's a button combo, it must be only for Mortal Kombat skills. People who melee in Halo are only good at Mortal Kombat.

Melee+headshot. That kills, its a button combo, BR. Must be only for Mortal Kombat.

4 Shot. RRRR. That's a combination of buttons, is it not?

Flag/Ball/Bomb One Hit kill. AB. Another combination of buttons.

But you're right, using another button on the controller, to simply speed it up, suddenly makes it a Mortal Kombat skill, even though you're doing the exact same thing.

And learn to type.

"uoibrcibhcwbjioec" Oh look, I typed like you.

"GLITHCES+CHEATING" I don't get this. Glitches+Cheating? What does it equal?


Oh, and all pros are good, glitches or not idiot. Wow, you've seen VoD, congrats, where pros are playing other pros. They aren't going to look as good when playing people as good. But, watch them play someone like YOU, and next thing you know, they're going +35 while blanking you in CTF Middy.



RRX is a combo CMAKE ALL THE COMBOS YOU WANT IN MORTALKOMBAT N MATCHMAKING IS CHEATING

FANBOY OF MLG YOU ARE A CHEATER FOR WEPON GLICTHING IN MATCHMAKING AND YOU DONT WANT TO ADMIT IT HOWEVER YOU CAN GLICTH ALL YOU WANT IN MLG


i could beat you anyways I dont play halo tough I am not afrai of laying against pros i beated Overswarm ( a semipro) with ease



OMG child, be quite.

So all combos are cheating in halo. Damn, everything I do is cheating. Do you go around NOT pressing combos in Halo?

Actually, I rarely even play MM, call me a cheater all you want, but the only time I glitch are in customs, or hardcore, where everyone is glitching. In a game where everyone is glitching, its not cheating. Do you want to know why? Because its cheating by the ToS if it gives an unfair advantage. if everyone's doing it, its not unfair.

No you can't beat me. Sorry.

Who the hell is this Overswarm kid? He's definitely not semi-pro. he's probably just like MCCE, he goes around telling everyone he is just because he went to an event.




sounds like a challenge ok I acept ( I would play for fun tough) ps
sorry you cannot prove you are more skilled than me I play gears of war since the rank reset.
Overswarm os the dude that wrote the famous guide NSCS



All I heard was "Okay, I'll play you, but if you win, it doesn't mean anything"

...........mmmkay.

Actually, if everyone in the MM game doesn't think its cheating, then it wouldn't be cheating to use them there either.



It is officially cheating (along with exploiting any other glitches to gain an advantage).

Use at your own disgretion in your own custom games but it's cheating to use them in Matchmaking.

I'm afraid these sorts of topics are supposed to be locked as it's a brickwall discussion. It IS 100% cheating in Matchmaking, but if you're going to use them in custom games (to make it more entertaining) then that's up to you (and your opponents).

Bungie's Policy = Doubleshooting is cheating. Therefore it is cheating.

a mod said that above


you are saying a falacy adpopulum



Not becasue everyone can do it makes it right it sis cheating acording to the policy in matchmaking

and bungie cannot remove them withou a major sisk recall

I am not a noob I just dont play halo2 anymore

Lets see if your glitches save you in halo3



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Posted by: BestSpartan117
It is officially cheating (along with exploiting any other glitches to gain an advantage).

Use at your own disgretion in your own custom games but it's cheating to use them in Matchmaking.

I'm afraid these sorts of topics are supposed to be locked as it's a brickwall discussion. It IS 100% cheating in Matchmaking, but if you're going to use them in custom games (to make it more entertaining) then that's up to you (and your opponents).

Bungie's Policy = Doubleshooting is cheating. Therefore it is cheating.

a mod said that above


you are saying a falacy adpopulum



Not becasue everyone can do it makes it right it sis cheating acording to the policy in matchmaking

and bungie cannot remove them withou a major sisk recall

I am not a noob I just dont play halo2 anymore

Lets see if your glitches save you in halo3

-It is not bannable
-Everyone uses it, except for noobs
-Bungie hasn't taken it out
-Everyone CAN do it

That is why it isn't cheating, and b.net mods have stated different oppions of it being cheating. If you are not good at Halo, or you don't play it much, your oppion is worthless. Way to be a loser BestSpartan117.

[Edited on 08.06.2007 2:39 PM PDT]

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Posted by: BestSpartan117
It is officially cheating (along with exploiting any other glitches to gain an advantage).

Use at your own disgretion in your own custom games but it's cheating to use them in Matchmaking.

I'm afraid these sorts of topics are supposed to be locked as it's a brickwall discussion. It IS 100% cheating in Matchmaking, but if you're going to use them in custom games (to make it more entertaining) then that's up to you (and your opponents).

Bungie's Policy = Doubleshooting is cheating. Therefore it is cheating.


PS I am a harcore gamer wheter you belive me or not
My opinion is as valid as yours


you are also admiting that glictes make you good

If oua re thaty good I dare you to not use them

a mod said that above


you are saying a falacy adpopulum



Not becasue everyone can do it makes it right it sis cheating acording to the policy in matchmaking

and bungie cannot remove them withou a major sisk recall

I am not a noob I just dont play halo2 anymore

Lets see if your glitches save you in halo3

-It is not bannable
-Everyone uses it, except for noobs
-Bungie hasn't taken it out
-Everyone CAN do it

That is why it isn't cheating, and b.net mods have stated different oppions of it being cheating. If you are not good at Halo, or you don't play it much, your oppion is worthless. Way to be a loser BestSpartan117.



typical response form people tyhtt loses a debate wehter or not I am anoob will not prove glicthes are right sorry you phail

Kp was banned for BXR

They cannot be removed withou a majotr disk recall

I am very good atr halo tough I dont play anymore

MOt evryone can do it Because not everyone is a cheater

you made anoter fallacy fallacies ad populum not because everyone think is right is right

ataking my skill is another fallacy

SUPERBOUNCING + GLICTHES = CHEATING acoirding to xbox live tems of use

Everyone that uses theam are Cheaters.

This is my lat post I dont want to ruin this post with this flame wars

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It is officially cheating (along with exploiting any other glitches to gain an advantage).

Use at your own disgretion in your own custom games but it's cheating to use them in Matchmaking.

I'm afraid these sorts of topics are supposed to be locked as it's a brickwall discussion. It IS 100% cheating in Matchmaking, but if you're going to use them in custom games (to make it more entertaining) then that's up to you (and your opponents).

Bungie's Policy = Doubleshooting is cheating. Therefore it is cheating.

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Posted by: BestSpartan117
Posted by: FKxPandemic
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Posted by: FKxPandemic
I disagree with the button glitches. I'm not arguing that they aren't exploiting glitches, or cheating blah blah blah. But its certainly ignorant to say that anyone who uses them is not good. A majority of people who use button glitches, would be just as good without them. The people that rely on button glitches aren't good, but most people don't rely on them. Your opinion basically said all halo pros aren't good at Halo. Funny thing is, they were pros without glitches, and still would be. they don't need them, and button glitches do not have a big enough impact on a player to make him good. A bad player using button glitches does not get any better.

And I must add, RRX is probably the most skill based part of Halo. Yes its a glitch, but it takes a lot of skill to not only be able to use it, but use it consistently, effectively, and accurately. It is probably the hardest thing to master in halo2.

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I disagree with the button glitches. I'm not arguing that they aren't exploiting glitches, or cheating blah blah blah. But its certainly ignorant to say that anyone who uses them is not good. A majority of people who use button glitches, would be just as good without them. The people that rely on button glitches aren't good, but most people don't rely on them. Your opinion basically said all halo pros aren't good at Halo. Funny thing is, they were pros without glitches, and still would be. they don't need them, and button glitches do not have a big enough impact on a player to make him good. A bad player using button glitches does not get any better.

And I must add, RRX is probably the most skill based part of Halo. Yes its a glitch, but it takes a lot of skill to not only be able to use it, but use it consistently, effectively, and accurately. It is probably the hardest thing to master in halo2.



wrong1!!! THGAT IS SKILL IN MORTALKOMBAT IN MATCHMAKING IS CHEATING BYTHE WAY NOT ALL PROSALRRE THAT GOOD PROS MAYBE GOOD BUT WITHOUT GLICTHES THEY REALLY ARE LESS POWERFUL I HAVE SEeN VoD


TEAMWORK+ AIM +SMART PLAY=SKILL

GLITHCES+CHEATING


EVERY GLICCTHER IS A CHEATER I HEARD KP WAS BANNED FOR BXR


You're such a fool.

Last i checked, there is no RRX in mortal Kombat.

RRX is a HALO SKILL, the only game its in, IS HALO. It still requires using the firing button IN HALO. It still requires aiming the reticule IN HALO.

RRX is skill based because its insanely hard to aim. You can't just say, "I'm going to 3 shot people today" and do it. Also, last i checked, mastering it won't make you any better at mortal combat idiot. You must be twelve, you don't have the intelligence of anything past it. Halo has button combos buddy, EVERY VIDEO GAME does, because you hit buttons to do everything. Double melee is BB. that's a button combo, it must be only for Mortal Kombat skills. People who melee in Halo are only good at Mortal Kombat.

Melee+headshot. That kills, its a button combo, BR. Must be only for Mortal Kombat.

4 Shot. RRRR. That's a combination of buttons, is it not?

Flag/Ball/Bomb One Hit kill. AB. Another combination of buttons.

But you're right, using another button on the controller, to simply speed it up, suddenly makes it a Mortal Kombat skill, even though you're doing the exact same thing.

And learn to type.

"uoibrcibhcwbjioec" Oh look, I typed like you.

"GLITHCES+CHEATING" I don't get this. Glitches+Cheating? What does it equal?


Oh, and all pros are good, glitches or not idiot. Wow, you've seen VoD, congrats, where pros are playing other pros. They aren't going to look as good when playing people as good. But, watch them play someone like YOU, and next thing you know, they're going +35 while blanking you in CTF Middy.



RRX is a combo CMAKE ALL THE COMBOS YOU WANT IN MORTALKOMBAT N MATCHMAKING IS CHEATING

FANBOY OF MLG YOU ARE A CHEATER FOR WEPON GLICTHING IN MATCHMAKING AND YOU DONT WANT TO ADMIT IT HOWEVER YOU CAN GLICTH ALL YOU WANT IN MLG


i could beat you anyways I dont play halo tough I am not afrai of laying against pros i beated Overswarm ( a semipro) with ease



OMG child, be quite.

So all combos are cheating in halo. Damn, everything I do is cheating. Do you go around NOT pressing combos in Halo?

Actually, I rarely even play MM, call me a cheater all you want, but the only time I glitch are in customs, or hardcore, where everyone is glitching. In a game where everyone is glitching, its not cheating. Do you want to know why? Because its cheating by the ToS if it gives an unfair advantage. if everyone's doing it, its not unfair.

No you can't beat me. Sorry.

Who the hell is this Overswarm kid? He's definitely not semi-pro. he's probably just like MCCE, he goes around telling everyone he is just because he went to an event.




sounds like a challenge ok I acept ( I would play for fun tough) ps
sorry you cannot prove you are more skilled than me I play gears of war since the rank reset.
Overswarm os the dude that wrote the famous guide NSCS



All I heard was "Okay, I'll play you, but if you win, it doesn't mean anything"

...........mmmkay.

Actually, if everyone in the MM game doesn't think its cheating, then it wouldn't be cheating to use them there either.



It is officially cheating (along with exploiting any other glitches to gain an advantage).

Use at your own disgretion in your own custom games but it's cheating to use them in Matchmaking.

I'm afraid these sorts of topics are supposed to be locked as it's a brickwall discussion. It IS 100% cheating in Matchmaking, but if you're going to use them in custom games (to make it more entertaining) then that's up to you (and your opponents).

Bungie's Policy = Doubleshooting is cheating. Therefore it is cheating.

a mod said that above


you are saying a falacy adpopulum



Not becasue everyone can do it makes it right it sis cheating acording to the policy in matchmaking

and bungie cannot remove them withou a major sisk recall

I am not a noob I just dont play halo2 anymore

Lets see if your glitches save you in halo3





"2. Anytime you see someone cheating, you should leave feedback on them, but it is up to you whether to do so. You define whether an action is cheating - you can define the above actions as normal, or be hardcore and define all of them as cheating. Since you're the one reporting the cheater, you get to be the ultimate arbiter of if cheating is occuring."

Achronos said that.

I'm pretty sure Achronos has more say on the matter than Ash, who you are quoting. So according to Achronos' statement, if all 8 players in the party don't believe cheating occurred, then it didn't.

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When you suck at halo your oppion doesn't count. It is that simple^^^^^And I agree with Pandemic.


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-It is not bannable
-Everyone uses it, except for noobs
-Bungie hasn't taken it out
-Everyone CAN do it

That is why it isn't cheating, and b.net mods have stated different oppions of it being cheating. If you are not good at Halo, or you don't play it much, your oppion is worthless. Way to be a loser BestSpartan117.
Yeah you even admitted you don't play H2 anymore.

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When you suck at halo your oppion doesn't count.

QFT.

I'm putting that in my sig.

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Posted by: I ToXiC ChAoS I
When you suck at halo your oppion doesn't count.

QFT.

I'm putting that in my sig.
LOL

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ou are saying a FALLACY tyoical chlidish response when you have better arguments contact me

I am good at halo but that is irrelevant tough

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Posted by: I ToXiC ChAoS I
Amazing that 99.9% of halo 2 players cheat according to you guys, well anyone that is good. Wait how is using a glitch cheating.

-It is not bannable
-Everyone uses it, except for noobs
-Bungie hasn't taken it out
-Everyone CAN do it

So explain again how it is cheating?


It is bannable by the Xbox Live Terms of Use. It clearly states in one of its clauses that the use of glitches to gain an unfair advantage is considered cheating and therefore a bannable offense. Bungie has clearly stated this. It has not been removed due to the fact that it cant. The coding cant be removed or patched because the Xbox does not support such a large download to correct the error in coding. Everyone can do it, but it is an error in the coding and therefore those who exploit the game are technically cheating when they play on Xbox live.

I dont know how MLG players argue they arent cheating when they clearly are in online games. Anything offline on the other hand is fine. Do it on the live service and its cheating. I kinda laugh though because MLG gametypes make people worse at the game in some respects. They cut most of the material out of the game and therefore reduce the number of possible outcomes in an encounter, therefore making themselves only able to anticipate a certain number of moves and they arent as good as a master of the normal game.

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Posted by: BestSpartan117
ou are saying a FALLACY tyoical chlidish response when you have better arguments contact me

I am good at halo but that is irrelevant tough


If I could understand that, I'd attempt to respond.

Do you have like, a total of 7 oversized thumbs or something?

You throw the word fallacy around like ignorant people throw the word ignorant around. It doesn't make you look smart.

You have no comment on how I trumped your glitching argument, using a higher source than a forum mod?

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Amazing that 99.9% of halo 2 players cheat according to you guys, well anyone that is good. Wait how is using a glitch cheating.

-It is not bannable
-Everyone uses it, except for noobs
-Bungie hasn't taken it out
-Everyone CAN do it

So explain again how it is cheating?


It is bannable by the Xbox Live Terms of Use. It clearly states in one of its clauses that the use of glitches to gain an unfair advantage is considered cheating and therefore a bannable offense. Bungie has clearly stated this. It has not been removed due to the fact that it cant. The coding cant be removed or patched because the Xbox does not support such a large download to correct the error in coding. Everyone can do it, but it is an error in the coding and therefore those who exploit the game are technically cheating when they play on Xbox live.
Ummm, why isn't everyone banned then. Bungie even said it is not bannable.

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I dont think bungie even cares about halo 2 unless people mod. It wont make a difference if you glitch. Get over. And were way off topic.

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Posted by: BestSpartan117
ou are saying a FALLACY tyoical chlidish response when you have better arguments contact me

I am good at halo but that is irrelevant tough


If I could understand that, I'd attempt to respond.

Do you have like, a total of 7 oversized thumbs or something?

You throw the word fallacy around like ignorant people throw the word ignorant around. It doesn't make you look smart.

You have no comment on how I trumped your glitching argument, using a higher source than a forum mod?


In fact WHAT ASH SAID IS TAKEN FROM XBOX LIVE TERMS OF USE THAT ARE HIGHER THAN ACRONOS

i KNOW TWHAT IS A FALLACY I debate all the time

wll this is my lastpost here bye cya ( I am leaving beacus thsi turned onto a flame war)

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Posted by: I ToXiC ChAoS I
Amazing that 99.9% of halo 2 players cheat according to you guys, well anyone that is good. Wait how is using a glitch cheating.

-It is not bannable
-Everyone uses it, except for noobs
-Bungie hasn't taken it out
-Everyone CAN do it

So explain again how it is cheating?


It is bannable by the Xbox Live Terms of Use. It clearly states in one of its clauses that the use of glitches to gain an unfair advantage is considered cheating and therefore a bannable offense. Bungie has clearly stated this. It has not been removed due to the fact that it cant. The coding cant be removed or patched because the Xbox does not support such a large download to correct the error in coding. Everyone can do it, but it is an error in the coding and therefore those who exploit the game are technically cheating when they play on Xbox live.
Ummm, why isn't everyone banned then. Bungie even said it is not bannable.


Bungie stated it wasnt bannable under thier ban hammer. Their ban hammer is seperate from Xbox Live's banning system. Achronos clearly stated that their banhammer cant detect it obviously and they werent going to go widespread banning due to the fact that it is so widespread. However, he also stated that since it is an exploit you can recieve legitiment cheating feedback for its use online due to the Xbox Live Terms of Use. It is cheating under Xbox's term of Use which has higher authority over Bungie's non-existent terms of use.

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Posted by: x Lord Revan x
Posted by: I ToXiC ChAoS I
Amazing that 99.9% of halo 2 players cheat according to you guys, well anyone that is good. Wait how is using a glitch cheating.

-It is not bannable
-Everyone uses it, except for noobs
-Bungie hasn't taken it out
-Everyone CAN do it

So explain again how it is cheating?


It is bannable by the Xbox Live Terms of Use. It clearly states in one of its clauses that the use of glitches to gain an unfair advantage is considered cheating and therefore a bannable offense. Bungie has clearly stated this. It has not been removed due to the fact that it cant. The coding cant be removed or patched because the Xbox does not support such a large download to correct the error in coding. Everyone can do it, but it is an error in the coding and therefore those who exploit the game are technically cheating when they play on Xbox live.
Ummm, why isn't everyone banned then. Bungie even said it is not bannable.


Bungie stated it wasnt bannable under thier ban hammer. Their ban hammer is seperate from Xbox Live's banning system. Achronos clearly stated that their banhammer cant detect it obviously and they werent going to go widespread banning due to the fact that it is so widespread. However, he also stated that since it is an exploit you can recieve legitiment cheating feedback for its use online due to the Xbox Live Terms of Use. It is cheating under Xbox's term of Use which has higher authority over Bungie's non-existent terms of use.
Everybody cheats then...

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Posted by: BestSpartan117
ou are saying a FALLACY tyoical chlidish response when you have better arguments contact me

I am good at halo but that is irrelevant tough


If I could understand that, I'd attempt to respond.

Do you have like, a total of 7 oversized thumbs or something?

You throw the word fallacy around like ignorant people throw the word ignorant around. It doesn't make you look smart.

You have no comment on how I trumped your glitching argument, using a higher source than a forum mod?


In fact WHAT ASH SAID IS TAKEN FROM XBOX LIVE TERMS OF USE THAT ARE HIGHER THAN ACRONOS

i KNOW TWHAT IS A FALLACY I debate all the time

wll this is my lastpost here bye cya ( I am leaving beacus thsi turned onto a flame war)


The terms of use statement doesn't prove anything. It says using a bug that CAUSES AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE, is cheating.

Now, when all 8 people in the game use it, or think its fair, then the Xbox Live ToS isn't valid in that situation.

Just because Ash takes the stance that it always gives an unfair advantage, does not make it law. So, in a game where Ash is playing, he thinks its unfair, therefore, he can leave feedback on people who use it.

That's how the feedback system works everyone. The people PHYSICALLY IN THAT SPECIFIC GAME, decide whether or not there was cheating.

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Posted by: I ToXiC ChAoS I
Posted by: x Lord Revan x
Posted by: I ToXiC ChAoS I
Amazing that 99.9% of halo 2 players cheat according to you guys, well anyone that is good. Wait how is using a glitch cheating.

-It is not bannable
-Everyone uses it, except for noobs
-Bungie hasn't taken it out
-Everyone CAN do it

So explain again how it is cheating?


It is bannable by the Xbox Live Terms of Use. It clearly states in one of its clauses that the use of glitches to gain an unfair advantage is considered cheating and therefore a bannable offense. Bungie has clearly stated this. It has not been removed due to the fact that it cant. The coding cant be removed or patched because the Xbox does not support such a large download to correct the error in coding. Everyone can do it, but it is an error in the coding and therefore those who exploit the game are technically cheating when they play on Xbox live.
Ummm, why isn't everyone banned then. Bungie even said it is not bannable.


Bungie stated it wasnt bannable under thier ban hammer. Their ban hammer is seperate from Xbox Live's banning system. Achronos clearly stated that their banhammer cant detect it obviously and they werent going to go widespread banning due to the fact that it is so widespread. However, he also stated that since it is an exploit you can recieve legitiment cheating feedback for its use online due to the Xbox Live Terms of Use. It is cheating under Xbox's term of Use which has higher authority over Bungie's non-existent terms of use.
Everybody cheats then...



Not everyone is aloose rthat neeeds to cheat...

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SUMMARY OF TOPIC

Weapon glitching IS cheating.

Only posters on bungie and low level players care about it.

More advanced players don't care that it is cheating and still use it.

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