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Subject: Do YOU Think Button Glitches Are Cheating?
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Poll: Do YOU Think Button Glitches Are Cheating?  [closed]
Yes, they add more skill to the game:  62%
(23 Votes)
No, they give an unfair advantage:  38%
(14 Votes)
Total Votes: 37

I think that they add more skill to the game. I understand that Bungie thinks they are cheating, but I want to know what the people who play the game actually think of them, not Bungie.

It should say: Yes, they give an unfair advantage
No, they add more skill to the game

I screwed up my own poll.

Forget this thread, I will just make a new one after this goes to the bbottom of the list.

[Edited on 08.02.2007 1:19 PM PDT]

  • 08.02.2007 1:12 PM PDT

RIP Halo 2.

Both poll options are hypocritical.

  • 08.02.2007 1:13 PM PDT
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Look at your choices. You need to fix them. It should be: No, they add more skill to the game, and Yes, they give an unfair advantage

  • 08.02.2007 1:18 PM PDT
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This will be locked. I have spoken.

  • 08.02.2007 1:26 PM PDT
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Damn straight this will be locked.

Go to the Flood and ask it. Asking it here is bound to attract some yutz promoting it.

  • 08.02.2007 1:38 PM PDT
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It doesn't matter what we think, it is by definition a glitch, therefore it's cheating as per the Terms of Use.

Now, opinions aside, here are the facts:

You can get banned for it, seeing as how you can get feedbacked, but honestly, no one is going to feedback you for button glitching. So though there's like a one in a million chance you'll be banned for it, it can still happen (but it probably won't.)

People are going to button glitch no matter what anyone says because they've adapted that playstyle because of the gametypes they play. If you play MLG or Team Hardcore, chances are you will button glitch to at least keep up with the competition, who is going to be doing it as well.

Button Glitches don't make you a good player. Just because you can BxR doesn't make you good. Just because you can double shot doesn't make you good. Team work and tactics make you good. Button glitches are there for people who use that style of play.

About MLG, button glitches are 100% ok there because they allow them. MLG tournaments are in essence a massive LAN (with money at stake of course) so seeing as how they aren't doing anything on Xbox Live, glitches are fine there.

All in all I feel button glitches are just a way this game is being played these days. Not everyone does it though. I'd actually imagine the majority of the people playing don't do button glitches, but a lot do. Heck, I got BxR'ed by a guest in Team Training once, LOL

If you don't condone glitches, that's fine, don't do them and stay out of MLG customs and Team Hardcore. If you do button glitch, then at least acknowledge that it's a cheat because it wasn't intended in the game's coding.

But at this stage, people are going to be button glitching, either adapt to it or stay away from 'em.

[Edited on 08.02.2007 2:12 PM PDT]

  • 08.02.2007 2:11 PM PDT
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Everyone that says button glitches are cheating and are always whining about it are bad at this game. It's a fact. Button glitches are used by every [good]player.

  • 08.02.2007 2:14 PM PDT
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Stop tapping RRX Halocide it's not fair ;-)

  • 08.02.2007 2:17 PM PDT

Posted by: Recon Number 54 | Master Forum Ninja |
You're asking people to state which non-released game they like better?

It's like asking a virgin whether they like being on top or on bottom.

Posted by: sk8r13 09
I feel, in my opinion, that button glitching is fine to do in matchmakeing. Like some people feel, I believe it is like playing a fighting game, and the button glitches are just hard to do combos. If you say it takes no skill to do a Excessive Shot, Double Shot, and Quad Shot than you are sadly mistaken(I do think BXR and BXB are pretty easy to do.) I don't have to do any of the button glitches to win a match, and I still do very well without them. And for the people who think it is cheating(Like Bungie). All I have to say is," Why is superbouncing not cheating, but button glitches are?" "They both are things that exploit flaws in the game, everyone can do them, and you don't need to buy excess hardware to make them work(Via Modding)." So why should they be cheating, when other glitches in matchmakeing aren't?

Button glitches do not make you good. Anyone who button glitches can probably own while regular shooting. They just need to take it to the next level. It's way harder to do the gltich than most people think. And the people who complain about it are the ones who can't do it. It takes just as much skill to do the button glitch and fire at the person than it does to just shoot. It takes more concentration to do the glitch and better aim.


"I don't really Quad Shot that much compared to a regular Double Shot. Instead of a Double Shot-YY-Double Shot,RRX-YY-RRX(Quad Shot). I perfer the "Shot Shot Double Shot."( R-R-RRX) I find the the "Shot Shot Double Shot" has a higher success rate than a Quad, because you are less likely to miss some of your headshots. And if you are good, but not amazing at a Quad Shot(Like myself), then you will have the occasional screw up on the first Double Shot. And most players would be killed in this instance because they were previously taking fire. Now, because you might have screwed up your first Double Shot in the Quad Shot, you now have to run behind a corner. This is where you make a decision; Should you stay there, reaload, and wait for the other player to pop around the corner so you can BXR/BXB him? Or you could try to make a tactical manuever by sneaking around him for the assasination. Or the last thing you could do is suprise by doing an Excessive Shot,BRX-RRX-BRX-RRX(Triple Shot). That would catch him completely off gaurd."

That is a quote by me. Now that might all be running through the normal button glitchers head at the moment you are attacking. Now if you think it takes no skill to do a button glitch, then I would like to you Excessive Shot, or Quad while fighting your opponent. It's a little harder to do, I think, than you people who just pull the R trigger. We, button glitchers, have to push multiple buttons and pull the R trigger in under a second to make one shot work(Double Shot, BXR, and BXB) You non button glitchers are just having to push R trigger every half second. We have to do most of our Quad's and Excessives in under that to make them work correctly. That, my friends, takes way more skill than pulling a trigger, and it takes more concentration and more skill to pull off those button glitches.

One thing that is stupid that I hate about regular open area BR'ing is, it's a whoever shoots first wins. Maybe if there is cover around you can hide and the pull off a four shot on the guys head from a suprise jumping strife. But if you were to say button glitch after he fired off two shots, he might be damaged and forced to retreat, giving you some time to heal, or he could be dead. It's no longer a shoot first win first situation. It's a "Who has more skill?"

And also for the people who button glitch. They are always trying to fight other button glitchers. This makes it really hard, because if both of you are glitching than it's an even battle. But one Double Shot can turn the whole thing around. Now a button glitcher has to look out for people more. If he see's someone he has to make a decision. "Should I fire at him, or wait for him to come here. Because he could turn around and Quad me when I'm only going to fire a Double Shot. Maybe if I hide I can pull of a BXR. But he might see me and do it before me. Maybe I should wait for a teamate, but he might know that, and tell one of his teamates to flank us and shoot us from behind while he Double Shots us. If he shot a regular shot I could live, but that's a maybe" That is running through the mind of a button glitcher. You non-button glitchers should think like that, but you don't because you expect him to play as you do. But he might not. So you get mad in the game and yell and scream "Cheater!" While you, yourself, have probably superbounced in that match and was just killed while you were up there. You darn glitcher.




I post this in button glitching threads.

[Edited on 08.02.2007 2:18 PM PDT]

  • 08.02.2007 2:18 PM PDT
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Yeah cause I dbl shot SO much

  • 08.02.2007 2:18 PM PDT

Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain

Posted by: Fritz White
I can just picture Mechalord reading his post to a group of Halo fans at GameStop in real life: loud, halting speech, his pimpled face turning red with anger at weak noobs, wildly gesticulating and banging the counter to drive his point home, stroking his tiny teen mustache like Halo Hitler. You need a girlfriend buddy.

Yup, its something we have to live with like superjumping unfortunately. I dont like them and I dont use them, but I dont really care if I see someone using them. As long as its not superjumping, modding or standbying I certainly wont even leave feedback.

  • 08.02.2007 2:19 PM PDT
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Yes they're cheating.

I'm hesitant to say that they add more skill to the game. It takes away the emphasis on good aim and put it on the knowledge of RRX and BXR. I personally would rather have no button glitches.

  • 08.02.2007 2:19 PM PDT
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I'll be like Killblackular and buy a dbl shot controller off Ebay for $100

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Posted by: WTF Halocide
Yeah cause I dbl shot SO much


Last time I pushed RRX my gun reloaded instead of dUbbLE shOotiNg and you killed me, oh nOeS

D-:

Posted by: WTF Halocide
I'll be like Killblackular and buy a dbl shot controller off Ebay for $100


LoL last night I swear this kid we faced had one of those. He quad shotted critical like no other, and kept on double shotting the whole game, yet at the end of the game he only managed to get 7 kills.

[Edited on 08.02.2007 2:24 PM PDT]

  • 08.02.2007 2:22 PM PDT
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LoL last night I swear this kid we faced had one of those. He quad shotted critical like no other, and kept on double shotting the whole game, yet at the end of the game he only managed to get 7 kills.
That sounds like Killblackular hmmmmmmm

[Edited on 08.02.2007 2:27 PM PDT]

  • 08.02.2007 2:25 PM PDT

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Kevin's post = breath of fresh air.
Take it from this guy people, he knows what he's talking about.

Second accounts are NOT cheating:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=13824

Just because you can button glitch it dosent make you good. Glitches add more depth to the game by allowing the player more options in all the various situations, but glitching alone wont make you better. Playing smart, controling spawns and power weapons and teamshooting make you a great player. Glitches just make great players even better, it dosent make stupid players any better.

  • 08.02.2007 2:58 PM PDT
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Your poll is very weird, you are saying no it isn't cheating, because it's unfair, and yes it's cheating, because it's more skill.

Button glitches, everyone can do, as long as you practice them.

  • 08.02.2007 3:01 PM PDT

You can run. But you will only die tired.

we should limit this topic to 3 a day

  • 08.02.2007 3:07 PM PDT

RIP Halo 2.

That kid we played on Lockout who had the Quadshot controller was hilarious. They're team still got absolutely wrecked and he barely killed anyone.

  • 08.02.2007 3:14 PM PDT

Never argue with idiots. They force you down to their level, then win because of experience.

Shadowrun=Halo 1>Halo 3>Halo 2>Gears of War>Nothing.

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Don't be a scrub. Play to win.

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
If you do button glitch, then at least acknowledge that it's a cheat because it wasn't intended in the game's coding.

I'm going to have to disagree with you. Just because something isn't intended in a game doesn't mean that it's cheating. Are you aware that the pistol was intended to be a side arm to be used to kill grunts in Halo 1? Look what happened, its the weapon of choice for pros everywhere. (please don't turn this into a Halo 1 vs Halo 2 thread.) Designer intention doesn't mean anything in a game, only how the game is played.

  • 08.02.2007 4:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: Mr Orzhov
Are you aware that the pistol was intended to be a side arm to be used to kill grunts in Halo 1


OMG therz gruntz in multiplayer!?!?!?

Are you aware that single player and multiplayer are separate parts of Halo 2?

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Posted by: Mr Orzhov
Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
If you do button glitch, then at least acknowledge that it's a cheat because it wasn't intended in the game's coding.

I'm going to have to disagree with you. Just because something isn't intended in a game doesn't mean that it's cheating. Are you aware that the pistol was intended to be a side arm to be used to kill grunts in Halo 1? Look what happened, its the weapon of choice for pros everywhere. (please don't turn this into a Halo 1 vs Halo 2 thread.) Designer intention doesn't mean anything in a game, only how the game is played.


Weakest argument ever.

It was still intended to kill in 3 shots.

  • 08.02.2007 5:52 PM PDT
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I don't think they're cheating. However, they are a glitch, so, according to the XBL rules, you can't use them. This is only in matchmaking, and you would only get in trouble if someone thought they were cheating and reported you. In customs, or in games where no one cares, you can use them.

  • 08.02.2007 6:01 PM PDT
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I think they are fair enough... like iceman said it's just a different style of play really. But when they are gone in Halo 3 there will not be a huge change. Those who were great players that used them will likely still be great. Those who used them because they sucked will probably still suck. I use them when I feel the need but I would actually do better if they were not in the game.

  • 08.02.2007 6:14 PM PDT
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Is it fair to say reloading and tapping yy to bring your gun up and able to fire faster is a bannable offense? No. Is BXRing as big as a threat as standbying and boosting? No. Is double shooting as big as a threat as standbying or boosting? No. Do people actually leave feedback on superbouncers? No.(not enough to get them banned at least). Stop making these threads. No one wins and no one loses. If you lost to a button glitch its your fault for being worse than them at a certain aspect of the game. Button glitching made its way into the game. It wont be taken out of halo 2. Look towards the furture at halo 3. If you dont have a 360. Spare us all the trouble and dont complain anymore. No one enjoys having to repost their opinions on these threads.

  • 08.02.2007 6:34 PM PDT

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