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I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I did get my Rainman achievement legitimately. I ran a Gold-only server swapping gametypes casually, and gradually got through each of them. I did not sit and grind through all of them relentlessly for the sheer purpose of unlocking the achievement and not play the game for what it's worth -- I gradually did them over the course of a couple weeks, having fun with the different modes of play. Maybe you like playing the same stuff every game, but I feel a mix-up necessary to avoid redundancy.

  • 08.05.2007 9:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: Scarlet Crusade
They're called 'achievements' because they're meant to be 'achieved' by the player. Creating a server for the sheer purpose of cheating achievements is lame.


Wow.

Ok, I think you barking up the wrong tree here. How is setting up a server and playing all the default maps and all the variants cheating? and how is it different from joining existing servers?

Posted by: Tyrant122312
Not when you think about it. I say the Rainman and Violent Cartographer achievements are an exception. Why? Halo 2 Vista hasn't quite caught on yet. I still have yet to see a single game hosting Backwash, and most of the servers out there show 0/16 players. So if you're building a server that includes all the maps and game varients with the intent of playing all of them, but not rush through them, you might say that the server was set up for getting the achievements, but you're still doing it for gameplay. As for decorated soldier, the best way to get it is a non-team game of slayer on Zanzibar. Does setting up this map and gametype mean he's cheating? No. He can still get the achievement legitimately, but finding a server with the map and gametype that will even allow you to attempt this achievement is in and of itself a chore. That shouldn't be part of getting the achievement. Gameplay is what should determine it. It isn't the players' fault that Vista (and Halo 2 Vista) haven't caught on yet, and will probably lose a significant amount of players once Halo 3 is released in September.


Thats pretty much sums up the reason of why I thought about this.

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Not to me. I don't find anything wrong with inviting people to play in order to gain the achievements. Staging is if you told people to stand still so you can get a headshot off of them. Staging is if you brought a bunch of friends together and they willingly stood together in a big circle so you could get a killtacular.

What you say is true, but for the majority, people who ask the populace or a group of friends to get together to 'unlock the achievements', they WILL stage the event. I don't know anyone who totally cares about having every achievement that's a serious professional that is willing to work for every achievement. For the most part, the people who really can unlock the achievements legitimately without resorting to staging are the people who really *don't* care about achievements for the most part. Yes, I'm speaking ahead of myself and no, I don't know if Smoth 007 staged the achievements or worked with a group legitimately to obtain them, but the odds greatly favor that Smoth 007 did indeed stage the event based on the community as a whole.


Your way off.

I never talked about staging anything. H2V is still new are there is still a very low number of players on the servers at any given time. I've tried running my own game but nobody joins and this is the reason why I'm here. I'm not trying to cheat but YES, I want to get the achievements sooner or later.

LOL. What exactly is a 'serious professional' in this context? The 'Pro' label doesn't mean anything unless your playing in a serious competition - I just play for fun. Most people tend to forget that all this is about playing and having fun.

I beg your pardon, but to what 'event' are you referring to?

Posted by: Scarlet Crusade
I ran a Gold-only server swapping gametypes casually, and gradually got through each of them. I did not sit and grind through all of them relentlessly for the sheer purpose of unlocking the achievement and not play the game for what it's worth -- I gradually did them over the course of a couple weeks, having fun with the different modes of play.


So how is that different from what I want to do?











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Well I apologize for assuming you fell in with the rest of the 'I-must-have-every-achievement-because-I'm-elite' crowd. I've just been asked way too many times when I join games whether or not I would help them get the Rainman achievement, I just need to stand there and we'll do 1-minute rounds, and the like. I grew sick and tired of hearing the same thing every time I logged on to LIVE that I just stop joining other people's Gold-only servers unless they're friends of mine. I meant no offense with any of my posts.

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I got all of my achievements legitimate... if you just play alot, you get them. I'm on 40/41 achievements, I just need -blam!- rainman. But it's not hard to get, just takes time.

Cheating it = fail.

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I'm just wondering, but what losers have to stage these "achievements"? It can't be that hard to get them yourself. I mean, come on, you get an achievement just for sticking someone. What is that?

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Posted by: Beowul7
Posted by: Scarlet Crusade
Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: Scarlet Crusade
They're called 'achievements' because they're meant to be 'achieved' by the player. Creating a server for the sheer purpose of cheating achievements is lame.
And who mentioned anything about cheating or staging?

Creating a server to deliberately obtain achievements for everyone definitely comes off to me as a staged event to cheat the system and get the achievements.
Dude's got a point.
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thats "dude" is a girl (or at least she said she was)

  • 08.07.2007 6:36 AM PDT
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Thanks for pointing that out, Fence, but I didn't want to say anything so that people would flip like in the Halo 2 Xbox / Halo 2 Vista difference thread because a female is amongst their ranks.

  • 08.07.2007 1:10 PM PDT

Slaying noobs since 2007.

Cricky, a female here at the Maw! This calls for a documentary!

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It's not cheating it's called "Boosting", making a server to those type of achievements is not boosting, it's playing.

  • 08.14.2007 9:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: Scarlet Crusade
Thanks for pointing that out, Fence, but I didn't want to say anything so that people would flip like in the Halo 2 Xbox / Halo 2 Vista difference thread because a female is amongst their ranks.
I know you are a girl. I just call everyone 'dude'. By the way, what's the big deal of a girl playing games?

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Posted by: Beowul7
Posted by: Scarlet Crusade
Thanks for pointing that out, Fence, but I didn't want to say anything so that people would flip like in the Halo 2 Xbox / Halo 2 Vista difference thread because a female is amongst their ranks.
I know you are a girl. I just call everyone 'dude'. By the way, what's the big deal of a girl playing games?


It's not a big deal as long as they can joke around and have fun with the rest of us. Basically, if they take a joke too seriously, it's not fun. I have quite a few girlfriends who don't mind (sexist) jokes because they know I don't mean it. I am just as mean to my guy friends as I am to them, so they laugh, and get me back. IIt just seems that girls are more likely to take my jokes seriously. I don't care what sex you are, but about your personality, and girls are more likely to have certain personality traits than are guys, and vice versa.

  • 08.15.2007 11:42 AM PDT
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It's not a big deal as long as they can joke around and have fun with the rest of us. Basically, if they take a joke too seriously, it's not fun. I have quite a few girlfriends who don't mind (sexist) jokes because they know I don't mean it. I am just as mean to my guy friends as I am to them, so they laugh, and get me back. IIt just seems that girls are more likely to take my jokes seriously. I don't care what sex you are, but about your personality, and girls are more likely to have certain personality traits than are guys, and vice versa.
I tend to over react about those jokes. I get unnecessarily defensive sometimes.

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as do the people saying them sometimes. I will stop if someone asks me, but if they do, I will ask why to get a better understanding of where they come from. I will respect their wishes in the end though.

  • 08.15.2007 4:24 PM PDT

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